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Dr. McDreamy
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 2:49AM
Ok, so let's get this out of the way, yes, I'm a huge fan of Penny Flame's and I've made a lot of comments that were negative about SW and defended Penny in how that whole thing went down when they parted ways. And after seeing Devon's first film, I think they will clearly miss her dearly. I never like Casey that much, but part of that was the turn on about her. I never thought she took the porn and sex too seriously, but I kept telling myself that it wasn't because she wasn't really into it but that she was just needing time to get used to the business before she got better and gave us some really hot sex. Basically, I was one of the people who bought into the story and found that hot. But what if the story is fake?

It's very clear that Penny is angry and clearly looking to get back at the people that wronged her, but does that make her a liar?

Penny latest blog says Casey Parker, who's entire appeal was based on the idea that a real college girl loved to fuck so much that she wrote in to SW and asked to become a porn star. So, go ahead and read what Penny wrote and there's not doubt, even to a big time fan, that she's biased and quite pissed.

But if you read between the lines and the anger she clearly feels, the only really important question is, IS Casey Parker a fraud, does it matter to you if she is, and should it matter? I'm just interested in what you all think, not about the feud betwen Penny and SW but about Casey.

Oh, and one other thing, I agreed with her comments about Jack Venice. I don't really like to over-analyze the men in porn, but Jack Venice is the only one I can think of who seems like a genuine guy who, for some reason, I don't mind or think about how lucky he is getting all the pussy and is the kind of guy who I wouldn't mind having a beer with and talking to. He seems extremely genuine (maybe he's just that good of an actor or just comes across that way on film) for someone in porn male or female.

Penny's post about whether Casey is a ringer:

April 12th, 2007

A Rumor worth looking into….(I already did, and that’s the only reason I want to share)

Over the past couple of days, little birds have been chirping ever so quietly into my ear that the one and only girl next door Casey Parker is not actually the “girl next door” that Shanes World has made her out to be…..in fact, it turns out that she is from Panama and is in fact a product of “armed forces” parents. The whole colorado deal? (which by the way is actually where I was born….) A big fat lie. The whole image of the young college girl who got broken in by SW? Another big fat lie. In fact, everything that has been advertised about her is simply a marketing ploy in attempt to create the ideal young sex loving whore from your typical wannabe Chatsworthian slut. What a shame huh? I was actually pretty stoked at the thought that out there, somewhere in college land, there was a girl next door type who really liked to get fucked, and wanted to do it so much that she wrote into a company begging them for a job as a pornstar. Nope……disappointing. Incredibly disappointing. So this whole revelation begs the question….

Does she believe the lie? Now that she has been living it, getting paid for it, and convincing her fans of it, does she actually believe the reality that Shanes World created for her? And an even bigger question…..What the fuck would her fans think of her if they found out that she has been lying to them the whole time. That the entire reason they (the fans) were originally attracted to her was a contrived plot formulated merely to trick and fool the poor innocent porn viewer into a false love/lust?
Man. I would probably shoot myself in the head if I had to lie to people to make them like me…..but that is the difference I suppose. I have far to much pride in who I really am to fake it to make it. And besides that, I don’t have the short term memory to maintain and remember lies. To be dishonest makes me hurt inside….but that’s neither here nor there. There are millions of porn girls who fill her shoes perfectly, tons of ladies who are in the process of attending school, living next door to folks, and leading incredibly regular lives except for the fact that they happen to fuck and get fucked like the pornstars they really are! Why not find a real girl? Why be so lazy and lie to all your fans?

The craziest part? You guys all remember back in, (god when the fuck was it….I know I blogged about it…) well, hmmmm…..I will have to look back and update this last part I know it was before jan 7th, but do you remember when I was all pissed off about my “x” (and no not Mr. Romance) taking Casey to a party? Well, after that all went down, the owner of Shanes World actually told me that this was her vindictive, petty, and intentional (but because of my apathy; useless) effort to hurt me, and ruin my relationship with mr. “x”. Too bad that I’m not some silly bitch, and I knew the relationship Mr. “x” and I had was more mellow and real than something she could ruin by tricking him into taking her to a party….(I even got the full story on how that happened from multiple friends!)
Anyway, I never liked her, never claimed I did, (and had to put on a shiney face because the contract called for it), but at least I respected her for being a real horny slut fresh outta college. Now there isn’t even that. She’s just a fucking hack.

Shanes World should consider themselves lucky that they still have Jack Venice….I know that motherfucker inside and out, and he is as reality porn as it gets. The guy actually finds real girls, no set-up, not porn oriented, and fucks the living daylights outta ‘em. That’s not even something I could do…..So here’s to hoping they start putting all their eggs in the right basket…..

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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 3:06AM
There was a whole deal about some Internet content she shot (Casey) before SW. It's all showbiz ...

I may rent a SW video now and then, but it's discouraging that
three people I really like a lot (Penny, Von Swine and Devinn) got the sack there (more SW's loss). I have to wonder about their taste ...

Edited by - skronker on 4/14/2007 2:25:29 PM

-Kelly-
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 5:12AM
The fact SW knew about the internet footage, but made absolutely no mention of it so as to preserve that "this is the first time she's having sex on camera...ever!" feeling of Girl Next Door is interesting.

One look at caseyparker.com is interesting. It seems to be designed so that if you didn't know any better you'd mistake her for just another amateur girl with a site (like a blonde Raven Riley), especially considering how they almost entirely skirt around acknowledging her porn star status or even the SW ties. Selling her as a girl-next-door-porn-star is one thing, but as a college girl having adventures in California who isn't actually a porn star on her own porn site is another.

The fact that the Casey Parker we have been sold pretty much began her life when she saw a Shane's World porno at college in Colorado does seem entirely too perfect but that alone doesn't mean it's a lie.

The idea of Casey being a surfer girl college student in Colorado seems funny, though I don't believe they ever said she was actually from Colorado.

The fact that Penny says Casey is from California, which is where the internet footage and her SW "screen test" came from, is interesting if somewhat negated by my previous point.

The fact that Penny Flame says Casey tried to hurt her and is in fact a complete fraud is interesting.

The fact that Penny arguably has an axe to grind is interesting.

There's enough circumstantial evidence that at this point I wouldn't be shocked if Penny's right, but then again everything I've pointed out could very easily be explained away. So, who knows. All I know for sure is that Casey is super cute and her scenes so far, on the site and on DVD, have been pretty hot. I give the set-ups for the scenes on the site no more serious attention than I do a BangBros scene, but the sex is top-notch.

Edited by - -Kelly- on 4/14/2007 5:41:16 PM

wheat
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 5:40AM
Only thing i know is casey parker takes every popshot on the belly.

yawn.

IntHeZoNE
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 12:21PM
If the truth about Casey's past isn't accurate then yeah, she's a fraud.

But answer me this...

Who is the bigger fraud, the girl who creates or goes along with a lie to make it in the business when maybe it's her only way in, or the girl who pretends to be the poster girl for harmonious living and won't even do interracial?

In reality Penny is just like Casey, pretending to be something she's not. Penny pretends to be a free spirit, a party girl who's down for whatever. She likes to smoke pot, listen to reggae and fuck. But if the truth be told, even Bob Marley couldn't have gotten a hit off Penny.

Penny says, "I have far to much pride in who I really am to fake it to make it."

I say, I'll believe that when I see her riding some black dick.

 
Roxy DeVille
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 1:02PM
Fraud. So funny. I was dying for somebody to tell this story!!!
I did her debut movie. I flew with her from LA to Boulder and then "met her there" to "pick her up". I was booked to fly there and do a road trip home. Fake. Hilarious.
Jack Venice is okay in my book. If you're nice to him, he's nice to you. It's that simple. I'll work with him anytime. I think he's a total joy.
wheat
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 1:18PM
So you can only be a free spirit if you never refuse sex with anybody ZoNE?

Err yeah nice thinking.

As for casey parker, she's just a young girl trying to make a buck im sure she didn't lie to shane's world and that they created the character that she plays in these movies.

-Kelly-
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 2:11PM
The whole entire "i was upstairs studying for finals and then these two porn stars from SW showed up at my door" always seemed supremely staged, like something from an episode of Family Business.

Edited by - -Kelly- on 4/14/2007 5:28:33 PM

Harri Patel
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 2:39PM
What's next? It'll turn out that all of those "the pizza delivery boy is here and I don't have any money" scenes are, in fact, staged? That there really isn't a pizza in the box? No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
christianx
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 2:54PM
Jack Venice has always been a stand up guy, and will always be a standup guy. He is honest and a good friend. I give him a lot of credit for succeeding in his business at his age.
-Kelly-
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 5:20PM
I always wondered why they never got around to actually eating the pizza. Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

Edited by - -Kelly- on 4/14/2007 5:24:31 PM

barrybrn
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 7:34PM
I suppose all those early Buttman movies are staged too?
IWAdult
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 8:29PM
I think Skronk hit it on the head when he said it’s all showbiz.

I mean if you really break it down isn’t all porn stars frauds?

They choose a different name for privacy. They lower their age so they can get work, plastic surgery, and of course the ole pizza delivery boy fantasy as stated above.

It’s all entertainment people.
What I think is people take porn and porn performers WAY too seriously.

On the topic, i think Casey Parker is hot and i enjoyed her first film with Roxy. The scene at the house was super hot.

What puzzles me though is why SW ignore screener and interview request for press.

back attack
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 9:36PM
I always assumed it is all exaggerated and just go with it.
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 10:51PM
It's only porn, but I like it, like it, yes I do!! Penny Rules!!!

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croy
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Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 10:57PM
At that point the pizza is pretty cold and congealed. Most take-out pizza is pretty nasty in that state.
IntHeZoNE
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 3:19AM
C'mon wheat, get with the program...I never said that Penny can't decide who she will or won't work with. Obviously, that's her decision.

But you used an interesting word..."refuse". I agree with you, Penny is refusing to shoot scenes with black men. I'm just wondering why? What do you think the reason is?

Don't tell me she's really picky when it comes to male talent as your defense...she's shot scenes with over 50 different guys.

Oh well, in the big scheme of things I guess it really doesn't matter. This thread has already deteriorated into more important topics like how long delivery pizza is edible, so I'm done with it.

I just found it a little funny that Penny would call Casey a fraud when her own on screen "persona" is a little suspect. Can anybody say sour grapes?

Dr. McDreamy
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 4:30AM
I'm still not sure what about Penny's screen "persona" screams "I fuck black men" anymore than it screams "I do anal."

You can critize her, I suppose, because you might think her not doing black men somehow makes her racist (ridiculous), but I've known women like Penny's persona (never as completely cool, though) when I went was a freshman in college in N. California. Anyone familiar with Humboldt County knows there aren't a lack of women that are similar to Penny's stoner persona...if indeed we even agree it's a persona. And I don't believe any of the women that I met that year where somehow any less of the stoner, free spirits-types because the didn't fuck any black men that year or take it up the ass. And I certainly don't think I would be right, based on that, to be able to look into their brains and decide on my own if they had something against men of color.

Oddly enough you claim Penny is hiding something, but you've posted here twice and have yet to just come right out, yourself, and tell us what it means to you that Penny refuses to do black men. Which, I didn't know was true, and I'm taking your word for it. That kind of makes you a hypocrite.

I think that one could look at porn and say that all the women have a "slut" persona, if we take your argument out to its logical conclusion and, therefore, should do anything and everything that we believe "sluts" would do...which is pretty much anything you can imagine up.

Creating a character for porn and selling her as a regular girl "fresh off the farm" is NOTHING like the pizza delivery type porn (Naughty America and such) or the other set up porn where they clearly are not trying to make you believe you're watching something real.

Like what SW did with Casey, don't like it, or don't care about it one way or another, but at least compare apples to apples.

Edited by - Dr. McDreamy on 4/15/2007 4:39:18 AM

devinnlane
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 12:24PM
Last I checked doing IR was a choice and not mandatory. The choice to do IR or not should not brings someone's character into question though.

xoxo
Devinn

wheat
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 1:11PM
Well for all the dudes who say any girl who doesn't do IR is a racist, what if i turn up at your door with 6 black guys and tell you to start sucking?

If you don't do it does that mean you are homophobic and a racist to boot?

IntHeZoNE
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 1:32PM
Now we're comparing doing IR to doing anal, like it's gross or painful or something...nice McDreamy.

What it means to me (as a black man) is simply this...

I see Penny as porn's poster girl for harmonious living. You may not believe it, but I actually like her alot. She's got a great personality and she's smokin' hot. I'll watch a film just because she's in it. I think that stars like Penny hold alot of power when it comes to peoples way of thinking on racial issues, and that she could do alot to help further racial harmony by showing that not just the slutty white girls are willing to do IR as you would have us believe.

Comparing IR to anal sex or insinuating that it's something only a slut would do isn't fair.

But then what is? You're obviously all over Casey and that's fine with you, but I question Penny and you're up in arms.

wheat
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 1:39PM
Shit here i was thinking equality was about treating people as equal's and not discrimnating based on their creed and colour, turns out it's about sucking their dick.
IntHeZoNE
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 1:47PM
wheat, your analogy sucks and the fact that you came up with it makes me think you probably do to.

If a guy refused to suck the dicks it doesn't mean he fears homosexuals, it means he's not gay and he doesn't like sucking dick. The color of the dicks doesn't matter.

What are you trying to say exactly? Penny fears black men? Penny doesn't like black men? I don't get where you're going with this. If you're gonna post something, take a second and think it through first.

IntHeZoNE
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 1:52PM
Right, and I'm just wondering why Penny is discriminating by color who she works with?

Anyway, I'm done with it...you people are nuts!

Dr. McDreamy
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 4:54PM
Your arguments regarding this matter are deeply flawed.

Let's leave it at that.

Trying to make Penny or anyone else into the "poster girl" for harmonious living was you first mistake and it all went downhill from there.

Edited by - Dr. McDreamy on 4/15/2007 5:05:10 PM

 
nietzsche
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 5:38PM
Casey Parker is not a real college student?! For this I shall certainly rend my garment!
Clam Digger
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Posted - Apr 15 2007 : 6:06PM
This sounds like someone just discovering that pro-wrestling is faked. What is the big deal here. Helloo its just porn.
aussie_guy77
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 7:26AM
WHAT! Pro wrestling isnt real, how can i go on now knowing this fact. What is the obsession with people thinking porn is reality, its entertainment the same as watching a movie, the actors play a part.
Hairy Potter
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 8:39AM
Could you all stop please!!! Pro wrestling is fake??? Reality porn is fake!!! I can' take it.

Next thing you know somebody will be telling me that the 6 foot tall bunny rabbit parading around my neighbors yard on Easter with colored eggs wasn't a real "easter" bunny and instead some guy pretending to be a rabbit.

That is all.

Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:49AM
If Shane's World would keep Jack Venice exclusive that would be great but sadly Rodney Moore is using him also :-(
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 2:07PM
I've been trying to figure out how I feel about the SW/Casey thing.

Was Casey just a persona, a fictitious character? Was she any different than Britney Rears (not the Hillary Scott incarnation)?

Thousands of porn girls make up stuff about their backgrounds. Some to keep their hometowns and personal info private from stalkers. Some to make themselves seem more sexy.
The main difference here is that a company did it. Is that so horrible? Porn is a fantasy - they just carried it one step further.
I was a little upset that they seemed to try to cover up the internet stuff at first, but whatever I guess.

For InTheZone's tangential discussion, I suggest that he do a search for topics with Penny's name, and there's already been a HUGE discussion here on ADT about that. There's also been a much more recent discussion on the subject in general in relation to Gia Jordan.
Me personally, I find it beyond ridiculous that a girl will have worked with over 50 guys (some of them unbearably disgusting such as Brian Surewood - sorry Brian, you're an ok guy but you could work on the hygenic appearance a little- some of them have worked with Ron Jeremy or Max Hardcore, so how can appearance be an issue, seroiusly?!?) but yet there isn't a single black guy in the business who is 'appealing' enough to them to get turned on by.
Fuck, I prefer guys with dark hair to blonds and have only dated 1 blond guy in my life and was never actually physically attracted to him - which was a big part of me breaking up with him. But I worked with a lot of blond guys, and I worked with Rick Masters and with Dave Hardman and Ed Powers and Jamie Gillis. Were these somehow more appealing than guys with dark skin? What if Dave Hardman had a really dark tan?
And if a girl is going to use the excuse of she's not into the 'urban' personalities of a lot of black guys in the business, then I present Sean Michaels as an option. Possibly the least 'street' black guy I've ever met. ;)

Now, I will be lenient enough to give a free pass to a girl if she has a HUGE 'no' list that includes both races and shown herself to be extremely picky across the board and will only work with a tiny hand-picked group of guys.

I'd just figure that if a girl didn't have a reason, then why not do it once (without charging more money to fuck a black guy)... just once... to avoid these kinds of conversations which will continue to pop up over and over. Then you can say, hell no I'm not unfairly biased. I will accept money to fuck either Arnold or Mr. Marcus.

oh and wheat:

InTheZone already covered this one, but I had to jump on it myself. Are you fucking kidding me? The answer is going to be no from MOST of the guys here and it's going to be because you're asking a guy to suck dick - they won't give a shit about what color.
Try asking this question...
What if a guy here wanted to be in a porn movie and I told him I could give him his big break and hire him, but the movie was a white guy/black girl themed movie and he could choose ANY black girl in porn to work with him. And then the guy tells me "well I really want to be in a porn, but I won't take money to fuck a black chick, but I would have taken money to fuck a white chick." Is THAT guy racist?

But free market economy is a fabulous thing. Someone can do something that I don't support, and I can use my money to not support them. As a producer, I can choose to not hire that girl for ANY scenes, even if I'm shooting a white-on-white scene that day.

SWorldMegan
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 6:44PM

This will be the only time i respond to this thread .... Mostly because it makes me sad. I don't know why Penny seems to have something against us, but it has truly actually hurt my feelings.

Just like in the prevous thread i pointed out we never hid anything about her or tried to make her look virginal. In fact if you search (i wish i could find it right now, i know of one for sure on xfanz.com) MANY times Casey has talked about how she spent a lot of time in South America when she was growing up. She had a family there and she has said in many interviews that she speaks fluent spanish ... in fact in Casey Parker: Lost in Puerto Rico you will see her speak spanish many times.

Why people go crazy when we arn't trying to hide anything is bizarre! Just because we don't put a press release out giving every single detail of a girl including her real name, where her family resides, etc. Yes she is in College fulltime and NO i am not telling anyone where. We are not hiding something. Trust me ... we are not that diabolical LOL

I am sure Penny or any girl that we have worked with for that matter, would be less then thrilled if we passed out all their 100% real information. All the info out about Casey is true ... except things used to protect her from stalkers!

As far as Casey's Website ... it's a fan website and has our logo and the trailer from the girl next door on it .. didn't realise we needed to put a huge flashing banner on every site screaming "Pornstar!!!!! Pornstar!! In case you didn't know, this girl is a Pornstar!!!"

and the whole Penny IR thing ... for god's sake leave the girl alone on the IR and Anal!!! It's her choice!

I am sorry we are not more entertaing then people think we are ..

Megan

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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 6:59PM
Im kinda losing respect for Penny and Devin over all this Shanes World bashing they are doing. First off if Penny would have taken care of biz she would still be with S/W but no she had to half ass her job and she got canned. Just like any body else in any job would have. And as far as Devin who actually watched what films she put out for S/W? Maybe bad product was her down fall there
benderset
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 7:01PM
One other thing I havent seen Casey or Devon bad mouthing other performers over the internet. Thats alittle highschool dont you think Penny? Grow up

Edited by - benderset on 4/16/2007 7:05:22 PM

devinnlane
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 7:34PM
Benderset,
Where have you seen me say anything bad about SW or another person in this thread? I've only stated that doing IR is a choice just like everything else in this business. If I wanted to say anything about anyone or any company I'd make it public knowledge beyond a doubt, like my apology to Brad Armstrong for tp'ing his house or I'd just open a lawsuit. And if receiving noms for every project that was released in 2006, creating projects that HAVE been bought for cable deals, and that perform on VOD is "my down fall there", then so be it. Before you excuse me of anything get your facts straight.

xoxo
Devinn

edited to establish who I was addressing.

Edited by - devinnlane on 4/16/2007 7:35:40 PM

 
XXXenophile
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 7:42PM
I realize that this may not be something you respond to of course per your previous statement but I will say this:

The problem that appears when things like this happen is you're calling yourself a reality based porn and then we find out the reality is made up.

Doesn't matter it if enhances the movie and/or performance. If its not 100% truth it shoudln't be portrayed as such. (And this has nothing to do with the necessary steps one must take to protect the talent from undesirables.)

You honestly shouldn't call yourself that if its not the truth.

Same discussion had on and off in the Debbie Does Dallas thread.

benderset
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 8:02PM
Devinn your right you havent said anything against SW or any performers in this thread. Ive just seen a few other threads on here where it seemed like belly aching over SW releasing you.
devinnlane
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 8:36PM
You comment on something that you don't have all the facts about and I'm not about to disclose my side of the story over the internet.

Now back to the topic. Do you think Casey Parker is a fraud?

xoxo
Devinn

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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 8:38PM
Well I commend you on that unlike others acting like a spoiled teenage girl
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 10:05PM
If she does that, the vindictive, IR-obsessed scorekeepers will merely shift from "__________ is a racist because she's never worked with a black guy" mode to "_____________ is a racist and a phony because she only ever did a black guy once, so that she could claim she isn't a racist" mode. And if she does a few scenes with black guys, then she's going to be criticized for not doing enough scenes with black guys. And on, and on, and on . . .
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 10:38PM
No one has mentioned Tera Patrick yet. Her whole schtick (sp?) was that she was a nurse who got bored of nursing and decided to fuck on film. Totally untrue. She was never a nurse or anything close to it. Porn girls and the companies that invent them make up stories all the time for promotional purposes. It's like being shocked when you find out the neighborhood stripper isn't really in med school. I am a little surprised that people are so offended by this.
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 10:53PM
I can't help but think of the "Screw My Wife Please!" series. Almost all of these scenes are done by professional porners with an occasional "civilian" scene in the mix.

I'm not sure what Penny's beef here is other than she is still angry over what happened to her. Her anger is understandable, but now she is letting it get the best of her. Someone should reach out to her and make her realize that she is not acting in her own best interest.

Edited by - Clam Digger on 4/16/2007 11:19:37 PM

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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:18PM
....and about all of this stuff regarding whom Penny Flame performs with and who she doesn't, does not seem to be (according to her posts elsewhere here on ADT) nothing other then a business decision.

Wether it is a good or bad business decision is in the end her decision to make.

The marketing concept of IR itself is racist, which really is the bigger issue. I find it interesting that neither Lex or Sean, among others, market their product that way and I think that that speaks volumes about the subject.

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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:18PM
You mean the "The Babysitter" series isn't really using real, current babysiters? This series and "Screw My Wife Please" aren't even comparable to what SW puts out and why being dishonest about who their performer is and what her background is is significantly different.

Again, in the end, it may just be that the majority of people go along with the "it's just porn" excuse and that's fine. But, again, you're not comparing oranges to oranges.

Penny's anger really is a separate issue and I'm not sure why so much of this thread is about her. She's clearly telling the truth, I don't believe that's been questioned, so why not just keep the thread on track about whether or not Casey Parker and SW took advantage of those who look at their reality based porn, much different than typical gonzo, and created an entire person based on her being a real University of Colorado student who wrote into SW and asked to be a porn star.

I don't see how that compares to Tera Patrick claiming to have been a nurse. How does that help her career and sell more dvds? If you bill Casey Parker as "The Girl Next Door" you are directly trying to mislead people and to increase your sales based on lies.

Does it matter? I say yes, if for only the reason that the real intitial appeal of Casey Parker came from that very persona that was created for her. Her sex scenes have been very average and, as viewer, I figured it was part of her being new and not a real natural porn star like a Jenna Haze, Aurora Snow, or a Sasha Knox. Now that I know she's not just learning her way, that her story was fake, it's not really as much of a turn on to watch her learn her way and I'm less than hopeful that she'll ever do a really good scene.

At least Devon gave them a real pornstar performance, by someone who seems to really like what she does. So did Penny and many other girls who've been in their films.

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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:41PM
Oh if it isn't just porn what is it?

Its an act...the performers are actors (I will concede that some are definitely better that others).. Fantasy is the commodity. Porn is an "illusion of sex", it is not real sex (the kind that most people have).

If two actors are playing the roles of Romeo & Juliet and doing a excellent job of conveying true love and passion on stage, are they misleading the public if in "real life" they hate each other - or better yet what if the actor playing Romeo is gay. Is that misleading and therefore immoral in someway. I say nonsense.

BTW who exactly is being harmed by this deception? The consumer with the fantasy who buys the product and jack's off to it a dozen times. This does not rise to the level of box covers showing shots that do not exist in the movie.

And, that you see some difference in Tera pretending to have been a nurse and Casey Parker (whoever she is) pretending to be "the girl next door" is a leap of logic the far exceeds Evil Kineval's transversal of the Grand Canyon.

Tom Choad
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:54PM
Penny's post about whether Casey is a ringer:

April 12th, 2007

A Rumor worth looking into….(I already did, and that’s the only reason I want to share)

Over the past couple of days, little birds have been chirping ever so quietly into my ear that the one and only girl next door Casey Parker is not actually the “girl next door” that Shanes World has made her out to be…..in fact, it turns out that she is from Panama and is in fact a product of “armed forces” parents. The whole colorado deal? (which by the way is actually where I was born….) A big fat lie. The whole image of the young college girl who got broken in by SW? Another big fat lie. In fact, everything that has been advertised about her is simply a marketing ploy in attempt to create the ideal young sex loving whore from your typical wannabe Chatsworthian slut. What a shame huh? I was actually pretty stoked at the thought that out there, somewhere in college land, there was a girl next door type who really liked to get fucked, and wanted to do it so much that she wrote into a company begging them for a job as a pornstar. Nope……disappointing. Incredibly disappointing. So this whole revelation begs the question….

Does she believe the lie? Now that she has been living it, getting paid for it, and convincing her fans of it, does she actually believe the reality that Shanes World created for her? And an even bigger question…..What the fuck would her fans think of her if they found out that she has been lying to them the whole time. That the entire reason they (the fans) were originally attracted to her was a contrived plot formulated merely to trick and fool the poor innocent porn viewer into a false love/lust?
Man. I would probably shoot myself in the head if I had to lie to people to make them like me…..but that is the difference I suppose. I have far to much pride in who I really am to fake it to make it. And besides that, I don’t have the short term memory to maintain and remember lies. To be dishonest makes me hurt inside….but that’s neither here nor there. There are millions of porn girls who fill her shoes perfectly, tons of ladies who are in the process of attending school, living next door to folks, and leading incredibly regular lives except for the fact that they happen to fuck and get fucked like the pornstars they really are! Why not find a real girl? Why be so lazy and lie to all your fans?

The craziest part? You guys all remember back in, (god when the fuck was it….I know I blogged about it…) well, hmmmm…..I will have to look back and update this last part I know it was before jan 7th, but do you remember when I was all pissed off about my “x” (and no not Mr. Romance) taking Casey to a party? Well, after that all went down, the owner of Shanes World actually told me that this was her vindictive, petty, and intentional (but because of my apathy; useless) effort to hurt me, and ruin my relationship with mr. “x”. Too bad that I’m not some silly bitch, and I knew the relationship Mr. “x” and I had was more mellow and real than something she could ruin by tricking him into taking her to a party….(I even got the full story on how that happened from multiple friends!)
Anyway, I never liked her, never claimed I did, (and had to put on a shiney face because the contract called for it), but at least I respected her for being a real horny slut fresh outta college. Now there isn’t even that. She’s just a fucking hack.

Shanes World should consider themselves lucky that they still have Jack Venice….I know that motherfucker inside and out, and he is as reality porn as it gets. The guy actually finds real girls, no set-up, not porn oriented, and fucks the living daylights outta ‘em. That’s not even something I could do…..So here’s to hoping they start putting all their eggs in the right basket…..


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She´s Panamanian. I should know. I lived there for 15 years.

Dr. McDreamy
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Posted - Apr 16 2007 : 11:56PM
I think it's no more important than mistaking the Grand Canyon for the Snake River Canyon.

But I see that being factually accurate isn't one of your top priorities, so no big surprise.

How people keep bringing up mainstream movies is really beyond me. Romeo and Juliet is relevent to this debate?

Oh brother. Lying about you past to advance your career would have repurcusions in nearly any other walk of life.

Does it matter here? I say yes. Is anyone dead, dying, or are people running to jump off bridges because of the revelations, of course not? No one thinks Casey Parker should be chased out of porn (I hope), but it still seems like a bad decision for a REALITY based porn company to invent a fake story to sell their "reality" movies.

Clam Digger
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Posted - Apr 17 2007 : 12:04AM
Ah the mind grows dim with age...
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Posted - Apr 17 2007 : 12:13AM
Sept. 8, 1974 - After two unsuccessful unmanned test flights Evel decided to keep his word to his fans and risked his life in a specially constructed rocket powered "Skycycle" in an attempt to clear the Snake River Canyon in Idaho. Even though he made it across the quarter mile wide chasm, strong winds blew the malfunctioning parachute back into the canyon, landing just a few feet from the swirling river in which he would have surely drowned

The Grand Canyon is in Arizona.

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Posted - Apr 17 2007 : 2:58AM
Feh! The moment she dared to admit on-camera that she doesn't want semen anywhere near her face, I knew that I would NEVER purchase any video starring Violet Blue.


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Posted - Apr 17 2007 : 7:02AM
Personally, I've grown so cynical with regards to porn over the years, that I start of with the assumption that things (personas, ages, names) are not proven until given strong evidence to suggest otherwise, which isn't always readily provided in porn (and I can understand the reasons)

Edited by - 4theheart on 4/17/2007 7:08:07 AM

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