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jm6d
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Posted - Aug 20 2013 : 4:55PM
A bit harshly put, but...
I've seen much porn with anal sex and quite often the doggystyle or, occurring even more rarely, the position with the woman flat on her stomach are used a rather short period of time with most of the ’penetration time’ spent in other positions.
Is this possibly due to some problem, such as being positions harder to regulate for the woman, or is it due to the choice of the director?
Although personally I would like to see more of the two positions mentioned, I'm primarily curious.
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Posted - Aug 20 2013 : 5:43PM
I suppose they are harder to maintain for the male talent , he has to fuck in a position higher than the buttocks to allow full view for the camera , it is hard to film from below because you will end in a close up of the vagina and often the viewer can't understand what's going on actually , also very often especially at the beginning there's not a full penetration , just half way at best ,again it is difficult for the talent to regulate his depth and his strength while thrusting in a position not meant for sex (the one completely upon the buttocks with just the dick going down to be viewed) instead of a more comfortable kneeling behind the girl.
My guess.
jm6d
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Posted - Aug 21 2013 : 12:49PM
Thank you for the good technical information!
However I wonder if it's not more to it than this. I came to think about the anal scenes in the films of Simon Thaur. In those I've seen the most common anal position is with the woman flat on her stomach with spread legs and the man pumping. The second most common is with the woman on her knees in doggy style and the man behind pumping. At the moment I can't recall any other positions in his movies. Is there a cultural difference between Germany and USA concerning this or is Thaur an individual exception? Or, are those films maybe less concerned with full view, although in my view there is sufficient view?
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Posted - Aug 21 2013 : 3:16PM
That's an excellent question. These two positions, particularly the pileup when the woman is flat on her stomach with the man over her, are the commonest IRL and the most psychologically powerful anal positions. Basically the whole submissive thing, which is at least half of the appeal of RL anal, is accentuated by the woman not being able to see what is happening to her. At least this is what my partners have told me :). Strangely, the third commonest position, the ankles-to-the-ceiling missionary entry where the man supports his weight on the woman's hips as he presses down and penetrates, is also absent from porn with some French and classic European exceptions (it's the standard anal position in Explicite-Art and vintage Greek porn movies from the 80s). The appeal of that position (IRL always), is the fact that you maintain eye contact throughout, which in my opinion is at least 50% of the fun in sex.
I suspect this is because the point of bg porn has never been the woman or any of her body parts, and certainly not any shred of real intimacy such as eye contact. It's all about the penis. I personally find this obsession of heterosexual male viewers with the male anatomy baffling, but am resigned that I'm in the minority and that everything must be subject to the clear depictions of dicks in porn. Basically, if the dick is not visible the male viewers complain. Therefore b-g positions in porn are these bizarre contorted affairs, where the male model desperately twists his body out of the way; in the case of anal you have such absurdities as the guy climbing up high above the woman's buttocks in doggy so that the camera can have a clear view.
My real question however is why the same fans who obsess over the visibility of the penis don't like the view from the top in doggy anal, but prefer the silly bottom one. In one case you see a lovely pair of buttocks being split, and in the other a pair of testicles hang from the top of the screen. And yet one is rare and the other one standard.
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jm6d
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Posted - Sep 9 2013 : 5:29PM
Very interesting thoughts!
Yes, the interest for the penis is sometime overwhelming, not least research has mentioned the porn industry being somewhat obsessed by the male orgasm as a necessity.
Anyhow, I've recently seen a scene with Melissa Laurent and Steve Holmes in Ass Wreckage 2. There the position that my learned friend calls ’pileup’ is prominently demonstrated in an US produced movie. Thus I wonder why this position, in my view, is so rare in US films? As I previously stated I also feel that doggystyle anal although frequent often is quite short compared to other positions.
Comments, by everbody but especially from performers or others from the industry, would be much welcome.
 
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Posted - Sep 9 2013 : 5:48PM
From what I understand, missionary is actually the easiest anal position for a girl especially in her first few attempts. This tends to be why you see it so often in "Let's Try Anal". Not my favourite series or position though. It just doesn't show the starlet off well enough. I like any angle whereby you get a good view of her ass being penetrated, essentially it can be rotated 360 degrees around the cock and will still look good. Reverse CG anal (filmed from a frontal perspective) is good too but more for giving a full view of her.
Can you give a description of this "pileup" position? Unless you were mistaken and it's called piledriver, in which case also I don't think it gives the best viewpoint of penetration (albeit certainly an unconventional and novel one!).
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jm6d
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Posted - Sep 9 2013 : 5:55PM
"Pileup" is Imperators word. I've got no term of my own for it. However, what I refer to is the woman lying flat, or almost, on her stomach, her legs spread and the man on top of her. I suppose the wide spreading of the legs is a porn thing, allowing good view of penetration and pussy.



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