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Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 5:54AM Christian That same formula can be applied to the NFL, NBA and Major League Baseball. NASCAR just had a driver busted for heroin Hollywood has a big drug problem and the music industry. I work in construction and it’s a big problem. Kids are exposed to drugs, some in elementary school, and in junior high. It’s problem in the medical field with doctors and nurses It unfair to hold up porn like it’s the only one with a drug problem. [Link]
Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 8:37AM bino808 wrote: Addiction is a disease Click to expand Bino, my fellow gentleman. Does this mean that people are born with it, or acquire it? I've always believed that you can't be born an alcoholic, but some people's psych (and also in combination with their environment and upbringing) may be more prone than others to become dependent on a substance and its effects. However, personally I find it very hard to believe that "addiction" itself is a disease, like cancer or malaria, which are actual physical entities. I am aware that Down's Syndrome and schizophrenia ARE diseases which one is born with, but these are apparent from a very early age. Also, I'm sure that when scientists have looked at the human brain in more detail, they will find physical differences between normal healthy people's brains and those affected with the diseases mentioned above. So maybe the prone-ness to addiction is a genetically-predisposed condition of the character, not a disease? Much like anorexia, depression, etc, they are all psycho-physiological conditions which can be attributed to the person's mind, which would explain why they get these "diseases" later in life as opposed to being born with them. [Link]
Leslie Member Goleta,CA 279 Posts 1/01	Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 9:26PM Well...I'm waiting for the reply of Holly(Randall) on that one :-) P.S.maybe in fact,she doesn't post here...only at XPT??? [Link]
bino808 Member The most beautiful girl in the world 46 Posts 5/07	Posted - Jul 25 2007 : 11:24PM Kensington, You can check with the AMA (American Medical Association). Addiction and alcoholism have been diagnosable diseases since the 1970's. It is debatable whether or not they are actually the same disease with different symptoms. A disease is defined as a condition which is "chronic, progressive, and fatal". If you know anyone who has this disease, you can attest to addiction possessing these attributes. There have been some interesting studies regarding the disease being inherited, and some work has been done to isolate the "alcoholic" gene. Unfortunately, due to the stigma attached to people affected by this disease, it often gets treated as a moral deficiency. Unfortunately, that is one reason why the success rate for treatment is so low. (as low as 5%, depending on who you ask). Think of addiction as a disease like diabetes: There are two types, the types that are born with it, and the type that develop it throughout their lives. Almost every addict shows addictive behavior prior to the use of drugs or alcohol. Studies show that most addicts starting using drugs in their early to mid teens. That was the reason for my previous statement. Please allow me to clarify, there is the rare possibility that someone who was not an addict upon entering the adult industry developed an addiction from scratch while working in the industry. This is possible, and I don't doubt that it happens. However, this would be the exception, not the rule. [Link]

Kensington Chapp Senior Citizen Mine is the biggest. 610 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 10:08AM bino808 wrote: Studies show that most addicts starting using drugs in their early to mid teens. Click to expand But is this because they are born with "The Disease" and it progresses sufficiently by the early to mid teens to push the sufferer into substance abuse? Or maybe it's because just about everybody tries some form of drug (including alcohol & tobacco) at this age anyway? Of course the addicts first did drugs in their early to mid teens. I'm not suggesting that you're wrong; on the contrary, you seem to have a lot of research & knowledge in this area, but I just cannot accept something like people being born addicted to a specific substance, without ever coming into contact with it; of course by this I'm excluding when a baby is born a coke addict because its mother was a crack-whore using while pregnant with it. What I do believe is that future addicts are born with the susceptibility (and can also be cultured by surroundings and/or upbringing), regardless of whatever substance they end up being addicted to, or at whatever stage in life. [Link]
Alexander Portnoy Member Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None. 275 Posts 12/05	Posted - Jul 26 2007 : 3:32PM imak wrote: I chalenge any one to be a sex worker for a year and not need drugs or some escape, it's about as bad as it gets Click to expand Does the nightmare ever end? Is there life after porn? [Link]
Captain Cock Member NL 172 Posts 2/05	Posted - Jul 27 2007 : 7:54AM Any environment where young people can earn easy money seems to leads to drug abuse. When I was working in London, some of my colleagues would start the day with a line. Why would porn be different? [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 3:09AM cobalt60 wrote: Kami, you may not like people but you can't stop them from liking you. How does that make you feel? Click to expand like a pepsi? [Link]
imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04	Posted - Aug 1 2007 : 3:14AM look guys from now on Harri needs to be qualified [Link]
10000 days Deactivated User Keep on trolling. What a bullshit! Im fucking unstoppable now ... 717 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 9:04AM I miss Kami. I hope she is well. [Link]
Mr Springer Member You don't do more with less, you do less with less. 61 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 10:41AM People who use drugs to "get by" on their jobs need to find a new line of work. That said, I think any profession that is really demanding on your body is likely to have rampant drug use (though the drugs may not be illegal). Football players take a variety of drugs for injuries, as do professional fighters (an area of society I cover on a daily basis). It comes down to will power and self control. Some have it, most don't. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 12:04PM Mr Springer wrote: People who use drugs to "get by" on their jobs need to find a new line of work. Click to expand That being said, most lines of work suck elephant balls. I'm sure they're all listening if you have one in mind that doesn't and has plenty of openings for people who are not very motivated and hate to work on a rigid schedule. Edited by - randomprecision on 1/16/2009 12:07:09 PM [Link]
Mr Springer Member You don't do more with less, you do less with less. 61 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 6:10PM RandomPrecision wrote: Mr Springer wrote: People who use drugs to "get by" on their jobs need to find a new line of work. Click to expand That being said, most lines of work suck elephant balls. I'm sure they're all listening if you have one in mind that doesn't and has plenty of openings for people who are not very motivated and hate to work on a rigid schedule. Edited by - randomprecision on 1/16/2009 12:07:09 PM Click to expand You're absolutely right. However, some industries are going to suck less than others. There's a great deal of stress in my current field and I handle it fine. I'm sure working in some other fields would send me running for a bottle. People need to find out what fits them and as the saying goes, everything isn't for everybody. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 8:38PM 10000 days wrote: I miss Kami. I hope she is well. Click to expand Me too. [Link]

ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jan 16 2009 : 11:08PM Mr Springer wrote: People who use drugs to "get by" on their jobs need to find a new line of work. That said, I think any profession that is really demanding on your body is likely to have rampant drug use (though the drugs may not be illegal). Football players take a variety of drugs for injuries, as do professional fighters (an area of society I cover on a daily basis). It comes down to will power and self control. Some have it, most don't. Click to expand I don't think anyone would live the hellish life of a drug addict if it were in their power to choose an alternative. They lose everything. It may not be a disease. I think there's room for doubt about that, but it seems that drugs including alcohol addiction somehow choose them. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 2:41PM ^It's a disease... <brScientific research into addiction, however, has led experts to conclude that addiction is actually a disease, a chronic illness like diabetes or hypertension. The American Medical Association broke new ground approximately forty years ago when it declared alcoholism to be a disease. And in the past decade, dramatic advances in technology have allowed scientists to examine the brain itself in search of the causes, mechanisms, and consequences of addiction. Today, scientists and physicians overwhelmingly agree that while use and even abuse of drugs such as alcohol and cocaine is a behavior over which the individual exerts control, addiction to these substances is something different.<br [Link]
JohnW Senior Member 1351 Posts 6/08	Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 7:20PM Yep, some people are more prone to be addicted than others. But except for that, I think Christian said it best. The young girls who get into the industry are often not mature enough to handle their money and free time well. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 17 2009 : 11:28PM ^that's not only true of girls or porners. Just ask Michael Vick or Daryll Strawberry. [Link]
DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07	Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 1:51AM JohnW wrote: Yep, some people are more prone to be addicted than others. But except for that, I think Christian said it best. The young girls who get into the industry are often not mature enough to handle their money and free time well. Click to expand He's not the first. Jerry Butler said it years ago. You just can't have an 18-year-old making thousands of dollars a week with lots of time on their hands and expect things to work out. And it's not just porn. Lindsay Lohan didn't do porn but the same thing still happened to her. It's a lot of things. It's background as well. But, I won't pretend I'm surprised that someone who wouldn't talk to Tony T (put any unattractive male porn star you dislike here) in the street, much less have sex with him, feels the need to get high after spending an hour getting sodomized by him and letting him come on her face while she smiles the whole time. It's the same thing makes an insurance agent in Buffalo drink half a bottle of vodka after a day of dealing with a boss he hates. Some of use wind up in jobs we hate to survive and anesthetize ourselves. Porn is not an acceptable way to make a living by most people so self-loathing for doing it (male and female) should not be a surprise. Obviously, not everyone, but don't pretend it's not anyone. [Link]
MonicaF Member 136 Posts 10/08	Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 5:24AM Well before answering that question, I think you have to look at the amount of drug use in the state of California as a whole..... I recently moved to the LA area from Fort Lauderdale, FL - I always thought that there were a lot of druggies in FL, but since moving out here, my mind has been blown. I think in the entertainment biz as a whole, you have more drug users than in many other industries. Professional adult entertainers do not have to "get high" in order to do a scene because 1) they're comfortable with/enjoy what they're doing 2) they've come to terms with and accept what they're doing and 3) they care about their life and longevity. People who are in the biz for the wrong reasons are the ones who use the drugs on set, and usually they are in the biz to support their expensive drug habit to begin with. Bottom line: if you feel the need to drink or do drugs to get through a scene, then you don't need to do the scene to begin with. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 11:31AM ^Drug addiction is pernicious in all walks of life. The regular Hollywood industry is filled with examples of train wrecks. It is not just a porn thing. [Link]
JennaRulez2006 Member The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05	Posted - Jan 18 2009 : 12:20PM Drug addiction is a big problem in everyday life. The person you least expect to do drugs can be a drug addict. It is so readily available and easy access. I don't think it is only in porn or entertainment. SO why the big deal. I think it was more publicized back in the 80's because the industry was not mainstream like it is today. So drugs and sex always have been partners in people's minds. SO back then people assumed porn stars were most times drug addicts. Doesn't help when you watch the tv specials and they do a segment on someone who did porn. She says she was always stoned or drunk. So that paints a bad picture immediately. Media will always misconstrue things to get people's minds going. Violence and drugs are glorified and embraced so much in North America, yet Sex is so taboo to many still. But sex is ok to make money off of. be it sex appeal, sex acts etc. Look at the drug rehab show with celebs they have on MuchMoreMusic here in Canada and VH1 I think in the US. Edited by - JennaRulez2006 on 1/18/2009 12:21:03 PM [Link]
DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07	Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 1:51AM MonicaF wrote: Professional adult entertainers do not have to "get high" in order to do a scene because 1) they're comfortable with/enjoy what they're doing 2) they've come to terms with and accept what they're doing and 3) they care about their life and longevity. Click to expand It's totally disingenuous to suggest that "if they didn't like it, they wouldn't be doing it" as if everyone loved their job. Most people hate their jobs, but we have to make a living. Forgive me if I don't think an 18-year-old from Ohio in LA with no skills will be able to easily detach herself from a gig that allows her to make thousands of dollars a week for just a few hours a day. And just because your job is something that seems pleasurable doesn't mean it is for you, all the time. I once reviewed films which meant I saw them in advance, in a private screening room for free, but there was still times I didn't want to go, but it was my job. Is is really so improbable that you can love sex, but hate sucking strange dick for a living? Especially when you're not the kind of star who can really dictate who you will and will not work with. Even Teagan had to suck Ed Powers' dick in the beginning. If you tell me you needed a bump after that, I really can't say I don't understand. Edited by - DarkPlaces on 1/19/2009 1:59:42 AM Edited by - DarkPlaces on 1/19/2009 2:01:45 AM [Link]
bbounce Member 16 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 8:34PM I am not sure what would kill the industry faster mandatory drug testing or mandatory herpes testing. [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 9:23PM ^ Mandatory Herpes testing would kill the industry instantly. Is there something faster than instantly? [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 9:39PM killbillvol69 wrote: ^ Mandatory Herpes testing would kill the industry instantly. Is there something faster than instantly? Click to expand It wouldn't kill the industry at all. It would just mean one more layer of paperwork. Signing waivers acknowledging that you understand that you're being exposed to a pathogen. You'd just have people who have herpes working with other people who have herpes. You know, pretty much just like you already do. The nice thing would be for the new people coming in, they would get valuable information, and a choice. You might see a whole new subset of performers, and it might be a new era for the industry, instead of the death of it. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 22 2009 : 12:24PM ^That's a good point Kimi. There's nothing to say that performers can't work in porn just because they have Herpes. (They do now, after all.) I guess I was coyly trying to match the sentence structure of the poster before me, who I take it was implying that if one were to want to have an industry without performers with Herpes, then across-the-board testing would basically shut the industry down. In my (poor) attempt at wit, I glanced over two facts: first, that more knowledge is a good thing, and second, that there's no reason that having Herpes needs to prevent someone from ever performing in porn. [Link]
Kimi Lixx Senior Member 2012 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jan 22 2009 : 2:43PM killbillvol69 wrote: In my (poor) attempt at wit, I glanced over two facts: first, that more knowledge is a good thing... Click to expand Not that I don't have a sense of humor, I do, a well developed one, as a matter of fact, but some things aren't funny to me. Drug use, mistreatment, coercion, exposure to infection, and all the other things that go on in the porn industry that we generally turn a blind eye to is what makes it a dirty business, not the sex work. It's long past time for this industry to become transparent and be held accountable for the conditions its workers labor in. Yes, I do know that it would cost a bundle for companies to become even remotely compliant with standard safety regulations. Yes, I do understand that it would, most likely, come from the pockets of the performers. You know what I say to that? SO WHAT! So there will be fewer people willing to take the risk that is performing in porn because the immediate reward would be less. GOOD! There is a glut of non-talented talent. At least the ones who made the decision would either truly want to be there (or be truly desperate). No more boring bimbos and mechanical mimbos collecting paychecks. So the crappy little companies would just die out. GOOD! They make such lousy product they dilute the market and drive people looking for decent porn at a decent price out of the marketplace altogether. There is plenty of free amateur porn on the internet if I want to look at cheap, poor quality, ugly porn. So the industry would become homogenized. Well, that might not be good. It also might not happen. I'm thinking the companies that have the savvy to adapt would understand everyone can't make the same thing and sell it at the same time. I think it might become less homogenized that it currently is, maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes you do have to pay a price for progress. [Link]
DarkPlaces Member 477 Posts 3/07	Posted - Jan 23 2009 : 12:59AM Heh. A mandatory herpes test would kill the straight film industry, much less the porn one. And drugs...forget about it. Edited by - DarkPlaces on 1/23/2009 1:00:08 AM [Link]
Ibrox Deactivated User 120 Posts 12/08	Posted - Jan 31 2009 : 7:50PM Kimi, I agree with you 100% about the need to improve working conditions for performers. As a fan, a true fan, that is, I do not like the fact that female performers have to deal with such situations. Here is a link to resources for dealing with addiction and other issues, such as abuse. There is help for those that need it. Kimi Lixx wrote: killbillvol69 wrote: In my (poor) attempt at wit, I glanced over two facts: first, that more knowledge is a good thing... Click to expand Not that I don't have a sense of humor, I do, a well developed one, as a matter of fact, but some things aren't funny to me. Drug use, mistreatment, coercion, exposure to infection, and all the other things that go on in the porn industry that we generally turn a blind eye to is what makes it a dirty business, not the sex work. It's long past time for this industry to become transparent and be held accountable for the conditions its workers labor in. Yes, I do know that it would cost a bundle for companies to become even remotely compliant with standard safety regulations. Yes, I do understand that it would, most likely, come from the pockets of the performers. You know what I say to that? SO WHAT! So there will be fewer people willing to take the risk that is performing in porn because the immediate reward would be less. GOOD! There is a glut of non-talented talent. At least the ones who made the decision would either truly want to be there (or be truly desperate). No more boring bimbos and mechanical mimbos collecting paychecks. So the crappy little companies would just die out. GOOD! They make such lousy product they dilute the market and drive people looking for decent porn at a decent price out of the marketplace altogether. There is plenty of free amateur porn on the internet if I want to look at cheap, poor quality, ugly porn. So the industry would become homogenized. Well, that might not be good. It also might not happen. I'm thinking the companies that have the savvy to adapt would understand everyone can't make the same thing and sell it at the same time. I think it might become less homogenized that it currently is, maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes you do have to pay a price for progress. Click to expand [Link]
MonicaF Member 136 Posts 10/08	Posted - Feb 9 2009 : 8:23PM I agree with you Kimi Lixx. There's a strong need for some additional regulation within the American porn industry. Not just in regards to medical issues/STDs, but when it comes to the living conditions/accommodations and psychologically abusive situations that I've seen some women put into who enter the industry via individuals, agents and managers. True, when a woman enters the industry she's 18 and legally an "adult" but think back to when you were 18 - unless you're a truly exceptional individual, you have very little idea as to what is going on in the world at that point in your life. I personally think the age to do porn needs to be raised to 21 to give women (and men) at least a bit of a chance to mature a bit (physically and mentally) and figure out what's REALLY right or wrong for themselves. I think porns great and I wouldn't work in the biz if I didn't like it, however I do hope to see a few changes made sometime soon just to protect some women who need someone looking out for them a little. Kimi Lixx wrote: killbillvol69 wrote: In my (poor) attempt at wit, I glanced over two facts: first, that more knowledge is a good thing... Click to expand Not that I don't have a sense of humor, I do, a well developed one, as a matter of fact, but some things aren't funny to me. Drug use, mistreatment, coercion, exposure to infection, and all the other things that go on in the porn industry that we generally turn a blind eye to is what makes it a dirty business, not the sex work. It's long past time for this industry to become transparent and be held accountable for the conditions its workers labor in. Yes, I do know that it would cost a bundle for companies to become even remotely compliant with standard safety regulations. Yes, I do understand that it would, most likely, come from the pockets of the performers. You know what I say to that? SO WHAT! So there will be fewer people willing to take the risk that is performing in porn because the immediate reward would be less. GOOD! There is a glut of non-talented talent. At least the ones who made the decision would either truly want to be there (or be truly desperate). No more boring bimbos and mechanical mimbos collecting paychecks. So the crappy little companies would just die out. GOOD! They make such lousy product they dilute the market and drive people looking for decent porn at a decent price out of the marketplace altogether. There is plenty of free amateur porn on the internet if I want to look at cheap, poor quality, ugly porn. So the industry would become homogenized. Well, that might not be good. It also might not happen. I'm thinking the companies that have the savvy to adapt would understand everyone can't make the same thing and sell it at the same time. I think it might become less homogenized that it currently is, maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes you do have to pay a price for progress. Click to expand [Link]
lilmissmackenzeepierce Senior Member 1148 Posts 10/07	Posted - Feb 10 2009 : 1:23AM i think it just depends on each performer, dont get me wrong i have "experimented" but it was before porn.... i have also par taken in them while in porn but never led to a habit.... i just dont have an addictive personality, nor do i needit to deal with porn. so i think its def one of those things thats a battle for some and not others. "im the girl your mother warned you about" [Link]
thedynamite007 Member 122 Posts 12/05	Posted - Feb 10 2009 : 3:36AM I love Amy Winehouse! ..Not! just kidding. But I admit I regularly smoke Pot. Keep out of drugs so you will not look like a rug! Edited by - thedynamite007 on 2/10/2009 3:38:21 AM [Link]

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