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charn
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Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 7:38PM
previously i thought it was just a one-trick-pony aspect of many porn companies. now i think the universal application of the phrase "huge black cock" is more than just lazy marketing.
bi_girl
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157 Posts
11/09
Posted - Mar 7 2010 : 7:55PM
I think interracial does qualify as a fetish to some degree, but only insofar as miscegenation was once outlawed, thereby rendering it a taboo or "wrong" behaviour. Surely that taboo still rings true today, though I think the idea of IR as a genre/fetish is silly. By today's mainstream standards (and it is a real shame this is the case) there is something naughty about a young white girl having sex with a black man. Taboo ensues. IR porn ensues. Racism ensues.
As a caveat, my response excludes the REAL genre of IR porn which should be various people of various "races" fucking...which I don't consider a fetish. It's just looking for some variety.
Auslim
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12 Posts
12/09
Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 10:09AM
Even aside from the taboo factor, folks would still enjoy the kink of the skintone contrast of black/white or even black/asian.
duefuss
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 10:24AM
Tecnically, a fetish is a sexual preference for an object, like panties, or body part, like tits, or behavior, like bondage. I suppose you could say that skin of color is a body part, which would make IR a fetish, but the question -- a very good one -- points out the problem of trying to classify sexual behavior or imply, as the word 'fetish' does to many people, that any consensual harmless sexual behavior is aberrant.
Nearly everyone is a breast fetishist, a lingerie fetishist, etc. in that these things are almost universal turn-ons.
NewRomancer
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 12:27PM
"is interracial a fetish?"
No... it's a misnomer... There's only one race of humans.
 
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 12:43PM
Echoing what duefess said, lots of normalized behaviours and preferences are arguably fetishistic. In the stuff I've read, a fetish is not just a sexual preference, but rather a specific object that you need in order to get off sexually, so its a bit more compulsive or obsessive than a simple preference.
So, I guess my answer is yes for some people, no for others.
Croc
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 1:54PM
Is compulsive making of new IR threads a fetish?
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 2:00PM
^ Possibly, especially if they jerk off to them.
awall21
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 2:21PM
yes in porn its considered a fetish, only when black guys are involved.
now when white guys are with asians or latin, thats not considered a fetish,
its not even in the interracial category.
Croc
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 2:33PM
Asian chicks are one of porn's biggest fetishes. Latinas are also quite popular. And quite a few white guys enjoy watching a black girl getting humped every now and then. The difference probably is that white guys mostly watch porn for girls. Blacks and the cuckold types on the other hand...well I guess you've heard of the popular IR board called iloveblackcock.com, haven't you?
Edited by - Croc on 3/8/2010 2:34:06 PM
Edited by - Croc on 3/8/2010 2:34:51 PM
duefuss
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 3:32PM
I think it's an obsession, but GGG is right, too (as usual).
negrine
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 4:11PM
Your quote from another thread:
"You just have to accept that many white guys like white girls who like white guys.:)"
If that's true (generally speaking) for white guys, would it not be true for black guys? Is preference exclusive to one race?
Croc
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 4:44PM
I don't understand the question. Care to rephrase it negrine?
negrine
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 5:04PM
^^^No problem.
I thought your comment "well I guess you've heard of the popular IR board called iloveblackcock.com" was hinting at another underlying reason. Hence my reply.
The point I was trying to make is that it's not a fetish if you're a black male. It's only natural to have a preference for scenes that involve members of your own ethnic group.
Edited by - negrine on 3/8/2010 5:06:15 PM
Croc
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 5:30PM
Well of course(even though I jerked off to an amateur black on black scene once...). I guess the difference is that I would never join a site called ilovewhitecock...and I would never pester Maria Ozinawa with endless questions why she's done countless Asian guys, several black guys, a handful of trannies and a tentacle rape scene but not a single scene with a white dude. C'mon that shit has to stop!
 
negrine
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 5:37PM
^...couldn't agree with you, more.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 6:37PM
I believe it's a fetish if that black male can only be sexually gratified by black women, and finds it impossible to be sexually aroused with any other race. It's the obsessional element that's key.
Louise Kaplan explains it neatly in her *awesome* book, Female Perversions (1991): "The basic requirement or obligatory precondition for sexual arousal is that the pervert have in his possession an inanimate object -- a leather boot, a lace handkerchief, a black corset -- or that he obtain a sexual partner who is willing to wear the inanimate object. However, beyond these fundamentals are numerous possibilities and variations."
If you take into account the objectification of human beings, then I think a particular type of human being could become this "inanimate object," could embody the fetish. I won't bore y'all by going into why people develop fetishes. But if you do want to know, Kaplan's book is incredible and entertaining.
Haze
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 6:51PM
I don't know if its a fetish but I read in Esquire about two years ago is that like the number three sexual fantasy of causasian women was having an interracial encounter. But other things listed were lesbian encounter, sex in public place, being restrained. Its not that big of a deal in most other countries but because our rich American heritage of racism we kind of created this one ourselves. When I was in London it interracial couples were pretty common. Mostly Indian and White or Black and White.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Mar 8 2010 : 6:52PM
Everything's a fetish. It doesn't matter what it is. If ten people want to see it, there are probably ten people who wish it would just go away.
Irex
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11/09
Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 2:42AM
You mean Maria Ozawa, I presume?
In any case it's awesome you named one foreign actress who doesn't have sex with white guys and is a part of japan's relatively small hardcore porn market.
Could you name ten American girls who do almost everything under the sun and don't fuck white guys? Fifty? A hundred? A thousand?
Probably not. If you could name five known talents in America who are appear in studio adult films and do everything else in porn but never white guys, I'd send you off in search of some unicorns and leprechauns because you can find the unfindable.
Could you do find hundreds of girls in American porn who draw the line when it comes to black men and white women?
Yep. Easily.
It's like getting stuck in traffic once and getting stuck in traffic every other day. You don't mind it once, but after a hundred times you start to get a little annoyed...
I agree the shit has to stop. Someone has to be smart enough to treat porn like a business and not as a microcosm of American race relations. There's money to be made by exposure in most major genres of porn and that includes IR. And while it's sad we still view race with such weight to it, there's money to be made. Porn is not a high end business, it's lowest common denominator. While Rolls Royce may be smart in marketing itself towards an affluent white demo, porn is like weed. It goes everywhere and transcends your social strata.
Maybe twenty years ago a plethora of IR titles in your video store in some racial divisive hotbed could be an issue but let's face it, video stores are becoming an endangered species and you need every warm body, including some old luddite who doesn't download porn and is a fan of IR to go in and buy product.
I'm not telling a girl what to do with her body, I'm telling her to make money because porn fans are fickle and will move on to the next girl and really don't care anyway for the most part because they're ruled by their dicks and dicks notoriously stop giving a shit about anything contemporaneous when they want to get off. (And on a related digression I always find it funny that there are outspoken IR opponents online who don't seem to mind telling girls that they will no longer buy their product if they fuck a black man onscreen, but then will flip and say "don't tell a girl what to do with her body!" when an IR fan asks about seeing a scene. So I guess asking a girl to do something onscreen that she's not 100 into in her personal life is verboten, but using a financial sword of Damocles over her head to insure anti-miscegenation is somehow fair game??)
In any case, IR is a popular segment of the adult industry and fucking a black guy physically is no different than any other scene. It's not anal where you need special prep, it's just fucking. And yes there's a physical characteristic that distinguishes the scene.
So what?
That's the whole point of porn and turn-ons in general. Something distinguishes something from another thing and it gives us an extra little bit of excitement. We make an issue of 90% of those characteristics and sell porn based on them.
BBW, Blondes, Brunettes, Spinners, Big Boobs, fake tits, real tits, small tits, Big dicks, Blue Eyes, Long Legs, and the list goes on and on. All IR is just extra melanin porn.
It's a fetish in the way that everything that turns somebody on is a fetish.
Croc
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2/10
Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 4:33AM
Yes, i meant Maria Ozawa. Thank you for correction.
I guess that the difference is that anal fans, big tits fans, BWW fans don't usually act like total cunts on the internet. IR fans do for the most part.
As for the genre itself. Well, we can just agree to disagree. I'm not going to let myself get baited into participating in that kind of discussion this time around.
But I will say this; as a white man I find the commodification of white women quite appealing. They are not some kind of resource, or public service that every customer/citizen is equally entitled to. Comparing white women to cars or marijuana is just silly.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 6:13AM
I beg to differ, anal obsessives are the biggest douchebags on the web.
Irex
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 10:12AM
Again, you see it from one side of the issue and you'll never understand it from the other. However I find your assertion that porn stars are not a resource or commodity to be quite silly. They are used to sell product; what is that if its not a commodity?
I agree the woman on the street is not a commodity, but a porn starlet whose appearance and performance is used to make money for a producer is absolutely a commodity. People pay for their services because they make product sell. I agree porn women have freedom of choice, but if porn women want to make the most money they should follow the path of women who have longevity in this business and that's appeal to a wide fanbase. The Jenna Jameson type career is rare; the Nina Hartley, Shanna McCullough, Jewel DeNyle type of successful career is much more common...
If somebody told I could get paid money to fuck girls of every race, I wouldn't really hesitate...
Oh and by the way in my original statement I compared the business of porn, not white women to selling weed as in both businesses you're moving product that virtually everyone in every social strata utilizes. I've seen guys who make 500,000 grand a year right next to bums buying tokens for peep show booths. You don't see those groups next to each other very often, but porn transcends social standing...
Edited by - irex on 3/9/2010 11:57:41 AM
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 12:03PM
Well, the tentacle sex mentioned in this thread might qualify as interracial.
Jacco
NewRomancer
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 12:44PM
^ I think that'd be inter-species, no?
 
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 3:58PM
Simple to me, if you have the mindset of 'I need to fuck a black guy or I need to fuck a black girl' and vice versa and this desire plays a major part in your sex life over time then I would call this a fetish. However if you prefer to 'fuck a black guy or a black girl' and vice versa because you find a race more attractive then this is not a fetish it's purely a sexual preference. I'm of the persuasion that the later for instance a white female who prefers to fuck black males does not even think 'fetish' when she is having IR sex it's just sex....black and white, excuse the pun. It is possible IMO to be of one race but find another race more attractive,,,,or not even recognise or catorgorise people into boxes but individuals with a level of attractiveness i.e 'that black girl is so sexy',,, 'that white girl is so sexy',,,'that Japanese girl is so sexy' and so on.,,,,,,,,So IMO IR sex is not a fetish or not so for some,,, it depends on your outlook and what you are seeking from sex and whom you find attractive or not. I dont't appologise if this does not answer your loaded question but what do you expect when a question is based upon deep rooted opinions,,,,BTW great thread.
Edited by - jonny jay on 3/9/2010 4:00:17 PM
goldenbear
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2/09
Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 5:54PM
It is when it's marketed that way--albeit, this is true of most of the market. Such as when a pack of overly endowed black males dressed in ghetto regalia gang-bang a petite white cheerleader to the tune of rap music. Or those first person vids where it's a faceless, screen-sized, black cock penetrating a tiny caucasion vaginia or anus. Normal sex between performers of different races isn't a fetish, IMO.
Edited by - goldenbear on 3/9/2010 5:55:40 PM
Buggeroff
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 9:37PM
Love interracial, its the contrast in skin colour that does it for me and it doesnt make
a difference if its a white girl with black men or a black girl with white men, it still
makes me very hard.
Some of it can get a little close to abuse for me but each to there own.
Is it a fetish? No i dont think its a fetish, im just strongly attracted to dark skin
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Posted - Mar 9 2010 : 10:44PM

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Aplus
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Posted - Mar 10 2010 : 2:10PM
Apparently it is, since most porn companies feel a huge need to announce every 1st Interracial scene a white female performer does. As if a black male is some kind of a fucking sub-species.
duefuss
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Posted - Mar 10 2010 : 9:04PM
I don't think it's quite that bad. African American males have a rep that they themselves often promote, for being 'well equipped' and sexually proficient. There are still vestiges of the shocking and forbidden about interracial sex.
Don't forget that miscegenation was at the heart of the racist's justification for persecuting blacks to 'keep them in their place.' And the African Americans on this forum are constantly talking about who's doing or going to do IR. The porn makers are just telling those people what they want to know. That much is called marketing, not racism.
These are stereotypes and hangovers from an earlier time and technically racist. But I don't see anyone treating African Americans as a sub species or deliberately suggesting that blacks are inferior. Far from it, actually.
Zaer
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 : 12:28AM
It's a consequence of the history of the USA.
Jonny Jay All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 : 3:27PM
^So glad I don't have to think about the history of the USA if I decide to watch IR porn,,,,,living 3000 miles away allows me the mindset and freedom to enjoy.
Aplus
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 : 4:43PM
Oh I don't have any problems enjoying IR porn. I was enjoying IR porn or scenes long before it ever became a fad or is now deemed ok by those that used to refuse to film it. I just don't see it taboo as apparently many others do.
Royal Tee
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Posted - Mar 12 2010 : 6:20AM
I'm almost a "IR exclusive" type of fan. I do own a a couple of BM/BF movies and same for WM/WF. But for the most part it BM/WF. I don't really consider it to be a fetish, more so it just the "type" of movies I like. IR is my basis. Big Booty, Busty, Coed, Uniform would be the "fetish", IMO. That's just how I look at it.



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