Could there be any parallel or corollary with the common notion of women who are attracted to the bad boy? I'm not even referring to the racial angle, not even referring to the "bull" in these scenes, just the phenomenon among some people in general, of any race or either/any gender, in which they find some kind of magnetism toward a person who could be cheating on them? In this case, the "bad boy" is actually the cheating wife. She has that power to be bad and gain some power of allure from it. Why do either men or women stick with a partner who they suspect or even know has cheated on them? Or take it further, it's kind of like how women stick with a man they know to be violent and even abusive. Why do some men find themselves always enduring heartbreak and scandal at their expense, because they can't bring themselves kick that temptress to the curb? The only distinction with IR of course is it plays into the heightened insecurities so many white guys have, who must feel especially threatened because of an inferiority complex of emasculation. I think some people just like playing with fire, or maybe they feel like it's a great test of their love. Or maybe they just genuinely like to swing? I've read plenty of commentary that speaks to the psychology of cuckolding. It's not one size fits all, but there are some common threads. One thing I notice is that almost none of it sounds to have any root in hatred. I simply think people like pushing boundaries and playing games. It reminds me of one of my roommates in college. He had frequent crying fits with his girlfriend. It was so pathetic. After like the 5th time of her creeping into the room and "ameliorating" his woe, I just wanted to drop kick him lol. I have no idea what their deal was but it seemed like she was constantly breaking his heart. It sounded really pitiful, even showy on his part though. Like, I couldn't wrap my mind around the idea that he was genuinely as hurt as he put on. Like every two weeks it was the same thing. IDK if she was cheating on him or what. But he would just sob under his sheets with her and blubber like a bitch. But yeah, there's all kinds of bizarre mind games couples engage in. She must have enjoyed it too, or else why keep coming back to that pitiful mess? Sometimes I wonder if a lot of "cucks" are cucks by choice and just like playing that role. Seems like a game, and it wasn't fooling me. I wasn't even sure either of them believed his woe was all that sincere either, they just both acted like it was serious.
Those size supremacy, degradation themes in IR porn are specifically made for masochists that actually get off on humilation, which by consumership, is largely white men who are cuckolds, some with bisexual leanings. I'm not a masochist or a cuckold, so I can empathize with your feelings about seeing your race being portrayed as 'inferior', for lack of better term. But hey at least for the white guys that have to picture themselves boning the female performer in question to thoroughly enjoy a scene, there are no female performers that avoid working with white male performers.
Pretty much the same here. Although there are countless black females I find incredibly sexy, IR scenes with black female + white male are even more rare to appeal to me. Nothing against the white brothas. No hate at all. Most of my friends are white dudes. I just dont like seeing them in my porns. Unless it's femdom type of stuff, then it doesn't really matter what the dude is. I actually like seeing white guys whipped, especially CBT. Actually come to think of it, I do enjoy some black female + white male IR, if it's a femdom themed scene. IDK why I didn't realize it, but I do have several such scenes with black female dommes. Easily far and away my favorite wm+bf IR scene is with Vanessa Blue and Jada Fire versus Marco Bandera. It was fairly tame though, as Jules Jordan doesn't really venture into heavy BDSM stuff, just teasing mostly. It could have been a degree or two more hardcore.
I'm assuming there's different types of cuckold. Aren't there cuckolds who actually want and enjoy watching their wives/partners with other men or black men and there's no degrading going on? Aren't Janet mason and Katie Kox's husbands cuckolds? They (to my knowledge) just enjoy watching their women get plowed by black guys. They may like seeing her pleasured by another man. What about the guys who may like "punishing" their wives by having a black guy really give it to her? Are they considered cuckolds? What about the guys who just get off on seeing their wife get banged by a black man for their own selfish pleasure? I don't know if any of those count as real "cuckolds" but I don't think all cuckolds have the same reason for being a cuckold. I've always gotten the impression that most cuckolds are cuckolds because they choose to be. Most cuckold vids imply that the guy is just forced to go along with it and that the wife has the ultimate power but I think most of the time the husband/partner is getting just what he wants.
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The problem is race became a central issue in porn that is not a good idea. Cuckold and Bm/Wf cast white males in a bad light. Also Black women have to be carefully selected when they are paired with White males because most of them will appear stronger than the guy. Race also drives away minority customers and actresses if they are not represented in the industry. Porn is one industry that should be colorblind.
Masochistic seems a bit strong language for it, but at the same time I see what you mean, and perhaps that does best describe it. I can't think of a better way to put it. I think maybe it speaks to getting off on the idea of sexual repression? Maybe this has Puritanical roots. Now I am reminded of a really wicked fantastic scene from Kevin Taylor's Girl: The Second Coming graphic novel anthology. These buckle-hatted pilgrim looking creeps were going to execute a female accused of witchcraft, but first they subjected her to the sexual subjugation under a big black slave. I think that really did speak to contempt and hatred though - just taken to the extremes of religious hysteria. Extreme repression produces extreme oppression. Look at the Catholic church and their horrific pedophilia scandal. Repression is flat out unnatural.It can't hurt that the vast majority of porn is still featuring white guys. So it's hard to feel too outraged on their behalf. They're producing directing and starring in the vast majority of it.
That guy is a beast too. So it would be hard to imagine him feeling insecure about anything really, unless he has a micropenis, which I don't think he does. Definitely an atypical example of the standard cuckold we'd expect.
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 2:31PM
If anyone's interested in delving a bit deeper into the subject of cuckoldry, David Ley's Insatiable Wives: Women Who Stray and the Men Who Love Them is a good place to start. Just thought I'd throw that out there if anyone wants to learn more.
Such as in that cuckold scene with Ana Foxx cuckolding her black boyfriend with chris Strokes? or possibly the 5ft 1" Brittney White doing IR? Edited by - LCF on 10/9/2016 5:52:35 PM
It's a label for customers , there are those who only watch IR so that they can easily find what they want , when there's no need for such distinction you won't find that label for example almost every Rocco movie contain an IR scene and yet none of them has ever been labeled IR , there's even scarcely a mention of this in the cover
As other posters have said not liking IR porn in and of itself is not racist. Taking the step to not watch any girl that has done IR porn is something else though seems that would denote more of an issue. As for the topic of cuckolds here is an article. Its a pretty good read that was published in GQ a couple of months ago, its kind of lengthy but will give some insight as to the types of people that enjoy the lifestyle and the lengths they go to fulfill their fantasies. The Secret Life of America's Greatest Swinger It tells the tale of Dave a demure doctor from a quiet neighborhood in Phoenix a man described as being in his early 40s, a soft-spoken primary-care doctor, a tall and muscular black man with tattoos and a disarmingly boyish face and how he became one of the most popular and sought after men in the swinging/Cuckolding scene.
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 7:58PM
No group in straight porn is more fetishized than women.
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Posted - Oct 9 2016 : 8:20PM
Jezabel Vessir did two gangbangs and anal and over shadowed all the guys. The scenes would have been much better with Black males. Ana Foxx is stronger than most of her costars so is Britney White. It's the same with most Bf/Wm scenes although some are better than others ..that is really the topic here denial does not help anyone.
And I still somehow get the sense, cynical as it may be, that overweight, short, ginger men with micropenises may only wish they'd experience some of this fetishization that seems to be going around throughout all demographics on the world wide web... Or god forbid an Asian man be fetishized for the first time in the 21st century... How do all these beautiful women and ebony Adonises manage? Must be hard being the most sexually desired groups...
Have you had any luck convincing Shane Diesel, Richard Mann, Boz, Jake Steed, et al, that they are offending themselves? Edited by - Melvyn on 10/9/2016 9:37:57 PM
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Didn't see it wright from thev start that one above, kinda early this, so deleted my message. Edited by - Dragon Sign on 10/10/2016 4:02:29 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 4:12AM
I'm sure there are lots of black men with masochistic leanings but the black macho image makes them keep it on the DL, just like homosexuality or general kinkiness. Let's not forget that the term 'on the down low' comes from black men who have gay sex.
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I wonder if it's possible to ignore or even dislike athletes of the black community. I know it's possible to hate rap music. But sports and porn have more in common I think. In my mind this must be some issue hard to debate. You just can't sit around be a racist any more if you like shows and talents and so. There's too many upsides to get that project going right. Wright wing people a little off line with their thoughts and tendencies just has a psyche whereas they're trying to rise above, but I don't think they're racist. They just can't enjoy it. And that's their problem, not some black dude's.
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Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 10:33AM
^^There are definitely black male masochists around, although outside of Clips 4 Sale there's very little porn produced that caters to their specific needs.
There is nothing wrong with Interracial Scenes, that is scenes where an African American man is paired of with a white woman as well as an African America woman is paired off with a white man or any scene where the participants can be of different ethnic background. What is really detest is those dammed anal scenes or any scene whether DP or not that have anal sex in them.
Very true. I definitely see the point you're making and I am inclined to agree it is closer to sports. But since nobody is keeping score, people can argue it's more subjective, like music. I wonder if one day there could be judges in porn and I guess it would have to be graded on a scale like they do gymnastics or dancing. That could be interesting.
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Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 7:02PM
It is not racist to dislike IR porn...I don't like it and I am a Black man. The question is why is it so prevalent but there is no Black on Black.
Oh, of course there are black masochists, and I wasn't trying to imply otherwise, was just pointing out a specific demographic that the themes I described in my previous post were catered to.
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Posted - Oct 10 2016 : 9:42PM
There is Black on Black. Evidently just not enough to suit you. As for the why, I feel like this has been addressed before but I think the answer always boiled down to consumer demand (or lack thereof) By the way, is that rock getting heavy yet, Sisyphus?
Brittney mostly works with Jmac ... And I don't see how strenght has anything to do with racism , it's not as if endurance plays a part , if it does it's on the male part
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MOD: You were asked not to do this. Edited by - Flash on 10/11/2016 9:05:33 PM
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MOD: Grow up. Edited by - Flash on 10/11/2016 9:04:54 PM
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Posted - Oct 11 2016 : 9:55PM
How is it Murdock can reply to a post that was days old but it is derailing the post when I answer his question..and this comment about grow up has a racist undertone to it when the rules says to keep post impersonal...to make us all happy I think I will make this my last post on this board and let things progress as they have been going. Downhill.
