We all love the girls who dirty talk but the thing some miss is that some of the girls loved being talked dirty to...only to have their partners let them down. I've seen Jandi Lin, Teagan Presley, Sandra Romain, Kristina Rose, Gianna and others flat out demand to be talked only to be met with at best "Yeah, it feels good" or worst grunts. The irony is, there are far too many guys who just won't shut the fuck up. Sometimes I think these girls just so overwhelm them they can't speak. I've heard Mr. Pete talk before, but when Teagan wanted him to talk to her during their scene in Oil Overload he could barely say two words. When I think of the guys who can work on two levels, verbally and physically, I can only think of Manuel (as always) and...well, that's about it. Mark Ashley's a great performer, but when Sandra Romain wanted some talking from him, it was apparently too much to ask.
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 10:57AM
Judging by the millions of posts related to this topic on these boards, the overwhelming majority of porn consumers want the guy to be a faceless, soundless cock sticking into the screen at the right moments. I happen to agree with the OP, but an awful lot of directors don't, and for just that reason that I've just stated. I think a running verbal back and forth is extra hot, especially when they drop the platitudes and hype. Btw, Mark Ashley does a lot more talking than given credit for, most likely a by product of his well deserved status within the industry. He's quiet, but no longer the silent assassin.
I get that some directors don't want a Tony T or Wesley Pipes type of verbal diarrhea erupting onscreen, but when the female co-star saying, "Tell me how good that pussy is!" for him not to give her what she wants is a mistake and a detriment to the scene. I know I found Teagan's constant chatter all kinds of hot, while Mr. Pete's inability to answer was a bring down. And while Mark's silence is a blessing 99% of the time, when Sandra Romain wants you to talk, you should. It was still a smoking scene, though.
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 10:07PM
I have this one movie called Delicious Black Booty. The one chick has her pussy in the guy's face and she is telling him to lick it then get demanding and says 'Spit on that black pussy' 'I said spit on that pussy' Then tells him "Slap that ass' 'I said SLAP that ass' The whole dialogue through the whole scene is hot and he says nothing. Not sure who she is but damn she is hot and I love the way she says things to him. Not enough shit like that these days. Kapri Styles is good too, she gets into her scenes. In tap That Ass White Boy her scene with Hypnotiq and this white guy, fuck me says some shit that I can only fantasize a black babe would tell me in the sack.
In porn, I can't stand dirty talk, I like music over sex. In real life... I like having conversations while I fuck. Seriously! I like talking about random shit like "how was your day?" or "so I was walking down the street and..." type stuff. I don't need to say "suck my cock, whore" or something silly and insulting like that, since it's already being done. I hate redundancy. Edited by - john lyons on 1/20/2009 11:14:30 AM
I'm split on this one guys, I think it is MORE important the performers are real and act as naturally as they can. I really cant stand to see guys, or girls for that matter really going for it verbally if it doesn't suit them but then a silent scene or a scene completely muted by music definitely feels like there is a connection is missing... ...if there isn't much talking then the body language needs to compensate for sure though.
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Posted - Jan 20 2009 : 11:32PM
I was never one who could speak very coherently during sex. My brain kind of moved into a different realm. Sometimes the guy would push exactly the right button, and I'd start saying stuff and afterwards wonder where it came from. Being able to talk dirty and sexy is a great gift. One I appreciate watching all the more simply because I know not everyone can do it.
I get that some people can't do it because they're overwhelmed in reality, or don't want obviously fake over-the-top talking (you know who you are), but in scenes where it's clearly adding to the woman's pleasure, why can't the dudes do it? I mean, they are literally fucking professionals. You're getting a check on top of the sex. And I'm sorry, but when Teagan asks if you if fucking her ass feels good, she should get an answer. You should be able to dictate a novel as to why it's so good.
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 2:04PM
Why the past tense....did you become celibate? I am speechless....
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Posted - Jan 21 2009 : 2:06PM
As a viewer you often can't hear what he is saying, but the girls sure seem to like how is lips move...[:P)]
I bump this up because in both Big Asses #15 and Slutty & Slutter #9 Gianna once again all but pleads for the guy with her to talk dirty to her and it doesn't happen! She's pretty much talking dirty to herself, telling the guy what she wants to hear (which is pretty hot in itself). Granted Mick Blue doesn't have English as a first language, so he's got an excuse, but Mike Stefano needs to learn more than "Oh, baby. Oh, mama." James Deen may have to give lessons, because he pretty much said to Teagan in What Gets You Off #4 all that Mr. Pete couldn't. The verbal interplay between the two was pretty hot. There was even non-stimulated squirting from anal for her.
You know, I have a not-so-secret desire to see a woman get interviewed while taking a phallus. I think that would be eyebrow raising and zipper dropping.
Just saw Sasha Grey's scene with Tom Byron in House of Ass #3 and it was her third scene. It was Tom Byron's one-millionith scene and he had no response beyond "Uh, yeah. It's good." when she began wonderfully talking dirty to him non-stop. How sad is it that a guy who's fucked literally everyone can't match up to a girl on her third scene!?!
I have a question regarding talking and having sex. Both Stefano and Manuel seem to be "porn whisperers" in that I often see them put their mouths next to the girls ear and say something. Sometimes I can hear it, other times I can't. Whatever it is they say, it seems to have a bit of an effect on their co-stars. Anyone care to dish on what kinds of things they are whispering?
Personally, I think talking adds a little too much specificity to the sex. It's hard enough to find porn featuring women you like, men you can deal with, sex you want to see and a director who knows how to shoot it. When you add talking, if whatever they're saying doesn't do it for you or (more likely) distracts you or turns you off, that's just one more thing that can ruin a potentially OK scene. I've seen scenes that start out fine. The girl is cute and I can't wait to see her naked and then the dude starts jabbering and asking awkward questions and telling her to say stuff and whatever else and I think. Sex is a hard thing to verbalize. Things that sound good in your head don't always come over as sexy when someone says it.
I've heard this complaint before and I don't get it. A lot of people want, say, Mark Wood to say more than, Yeahhh...Yeahhh...Yeahhh...during his scenes, and at first, I thought maybe they had a point. But then I watch the scenes and I see who these guys are fucking and I get why they are making strange sounds and being repetitive. I mean, these guys are PROFESSIONALS, and even they have trouble handling some of these girls, some of whom are brand new to the biz and who aren't even seasoned performers. To put it in more vulgar terms: do some of you wankers (and I mean that literally, with affection) understand how good the pussy is? Tom Byron couldn't maintain a dialogue with Sasha Grey during her third scene ever? Think about that. Think about what it feels like to have your dick inside of a 18 year Sasha Grey. The fact that these guys don't get nervous and maintain boners and then not come immediately always leaves me in awe. If I was Michael Stefano and I was fucking say, Veronique Vega and she said to me, Do you like my tight pussy? My response would be: Bwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I think the sensorial overload some of these guys feel during their scenes is vastly underrated. Having you cock balls deep inside of Tanner Mayes is not going to inspire eloquence or a heart improvisatorial nature. It is beyond words. I think. I'm assuming.
I'm not discounting that, but these guys are supposedly professionals. That they can get it up in front of full crew and fuck 18-year-old Sasha Grey for at least an hour in ever hole and not pop until the designated time pretty much confirms that. Now, you can do all that but you can't talk dirty to a girl who wants you to talk dirty to her!?! That's the real issue. It's not that I want dirty talk; it's that I want it for the girls who clearly want it and sometimes ask for it. They want that second level engagement and out of all of porn it seems that only Manuel and James Deen can do that. That's a sad fucking ratio.
I get it. I really do, but when a girl says, "Tell me how it feels! Talk to me!" and all the guy does is grunt, it brings the scene down because you know she's not getting what she wants. But I guess it's better than a Wesley Pipes who can't shut up.
I'm no porn stud but honestly, maybe you're expecting too much. I've been mostly grunting for the better part of 40 years. I still haven't figured out what an orgasm feels like. It feels like I should grunt.
What Manuel does through talking and whispering is communicate his utter delight in the woman he is fucking with - pretty straightforward and damn sexy. Everyone wants to feel completely desirable, we want to know that we're driving our partners wild with lust, we want to know that it's so good, that it's almost too much. Manuel's attitude and words convey that the woman has a certain sexual power, that at any minute he'll lose control because she's that sexy. Mind sex.
And how many songs are there with lines about "You leave me speechless," or "You leave me breathless?" And what's wrong with being the strong silent type? Edited by - Gentleman Jon on 3/10/2010 10:00:43 AM
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Posted - Mar 17 2010 : 10:20PM
I want to see a porn version of Meet the Press. They fuck while talking about the political issues of the day.
I'd buy that for a dollar! And again I'd like to see something like the regular pre-sex interviews you see before each scene, the gal calmly asking the usual "why did you get into the business?" questions and then slowly the camera pans down and the girl is getting pounded vaginally/anally as the banal interview continues. While she finishes the interview the male talent busts the load on her face.
Yep.. seen that said too many times to count. What I don't think people (guys) realize is that it takes TWO to make a scene (or more if it's group scene of course), but just focusing simply on a man and a woman, it takes BOTH of them to make a scorching scene. The guy in the scene is 50% of the equation. Why do you think you can find a smoking hot scene or two of a girl, where you want to find more of her, only to be disappointed in her other scenes. What was so special about the scene or two that caught your attention? Was she just having an exceptional day? Did the planets just happen to align? Was it just who that particular producer/director was? It could be any combination of all those things.. but what I would count the most on.. is it was the guy she was with. Chemistry or whatever.. she jsut really wanted to fuck that particular guy, he really got her juices flowing. So to create a memorable scene.. the guy is WAY more important that we give him credit for. Don't discount the guy as not being important so quickly. Now as far as the guy talking dirty. My belief is that talking dirty is actually an aquired skill. I believe anyone who really wants to can learn to do it.. but if you haven't learned to do it.. you can't just turn it on like a light switch. You have to begin just doing it sometime.. and for quite a while.. it's probably going to sound forced and unatural. But over time.. it will begin to become more and more natural. A good way to practice is to actually have phone sex... where the ONLY thing you have is your voice. So you are forced to describe (in a sexy way with a hot and sexy voice what you want to be doing to her.. and what it is her voice is doing to you. Do that for a while and you will learn to talk dirty VERY quickly. :) I can talk dirty with the best of them (IMHO), but what's hard for me is I become so animalistic.. having sex does to me what a full moon does to a werewolf. I'm not always in control fo what I do/say. ;)
Is It Really So Difficult To Fuck And Talk? For the girl, it would seem it shouldn't be. It add's so much color and depth you wonder why some actresses don't work a little harder at developing the knack. However, I do prefer very little verbalizing, if all that comes out is shrieking or the same lines over and over. For the guy, it would seem harder as there has to be a lot of concentration going on. Maintaining that fine line of keeping into it enough to stay erect, but not so much as to chance losing the money shot early. In my mind, just a few well placed lines or comments goes a long way for the male participant.
I agree that it isn't as easy as it may look or sound. As someone else said, its been this way for like 40 years. There is a reason you keep seeing the same guys, all the damn time, in adult films. Gotta be one of the toughest balancing acts (for the guys) that I could ever imagine. Despite all that fine pussy, the pressure to perform and deliver is probably at a level most people can't understand. One wrong move, and a scene (or career) could be ruined. Then it clear to me that some guys simply aren't naturally good at it, or comfortable doing it. The response isn't always great for the guys either by the way. I saw the always talked about Manuel try to talk to one girl, and literally get left hanging. Saw it happen to the late and great John Leslie a few times too. The girl said and offered nothing to Manuel though. I think the ability to be truly vulnerable during a sex scene, is one of the toughest parts, I really do.
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Posted - Mar 11 2011 : 11:07PM
I once was talking to my girlfriend on the phone while fucking my "girl on the side". Made her cum while I was doing it while signaling her "shhhh". Probably going to hell for it, but it was intense, especially after I hung up.
Here's something fun to try. The next time you are having sex, and on the verge of, or in the middle of an orgasm, try doing some math. You know, square a number, or figure a square root or two, or add four numbers. Something like that. See how well you do. I double dog dare you. Most men cannot do it because we are not good at multitasking. That, and men remain stupid until the refractory period has subsided. Women regain their senses much sooner, thereby proving their physical, and intellectual superiority.
It's all fun and games until someone gets an ear poked out!
An observation of nature, red in tooth and claw, might suggest that men are knocked out in order to allow the female to get away safely. If that's the case then the effect doesn't speak to either strength or intellect.
^ You are correct, and I should have said that women were intellectually, and physically superior by design. I have experienced several disturbingly long recovery periods after receiving a blowjob that caused my cranium to cave in. The girl(s) got away. Nobody has ever accused me of being smart, and lived to tell about it.
It's all fun and games until someone gets an ear poked out!
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Posted - Jan 19 2009 : 3:25AM
I am speechless....