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Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:25PM
Simplictically speaking, take away the camera and you have got 'reality'.
'Pro-filmic reality' is 'reality' arranged before a camera. It even applies when there is no mise-en-scene involved.
Are they close? Damn right they are, and that includes the 'filmic reality' as well. Are they the same? Not by a long shot.
(Walter, you sound angry. Time for a nap.)



Speelie said:
"I'm not really fit to judge the merits of a scene based on the pop shots."
Operator
Member

91 Posts
11/03
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:25PM
I hear you on that!


Hold up, I'm not really a huge fan of DAPs and I don't even know what anal creampies are...... but the group stuff and other extracurricular sex I do enjoy watching.

Edited by - Operator on 4/23/2004 3:39:36 PM

Operator
Member

91 Posts
11/03
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:29PM
Best quote I liked yet!!!!
XXXXXXXX
Member

306 Posts
11/02
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:30PM
Hey Valjean,

i tried to explain the difference in a funny way here.

just one little hint before you click on the link,

Po = ass in german

i forgot this comment for the native english speakers while doing the poll

 
Operator
Member

91 Posts
11/03
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:34PM
Don't stop now, please keep going!!!!!
Operator
Member

91 Posts
11/03
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 3:47PM
On a serious note now, I will say that there SHOULD be one good thing that comes out of all this, and that is that this issue has been brought to the forefront and that changes or improvments are having to be considered...

I am totally against government regulation (nothing could be worse), but I am all for more attention to the many issues and risks, better support for the actors and actresses, and better systems for prevention/testing (if its possible - probably is).

Sadly enough, many times in our society (and I guess human nature) it takes a great tragedy before changes or improvments (or even simple attention) to a particular matter is given. Look at 9/11... Look at the Kobe case, and the rape issue.... (both sides)


I am sincerely sorry for the people who are now suffering and I don't know what I can say, other than that as a large consumer I DO very much care about the welfare of the people involved (all of them). I hope we can bring about better changes but I am quite positive that government intervention is a disaster.


One last note - who actually is Lara Roxx? I tried to look her up on this site and Xrentdvd.com and could not find her movies..

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 4:23PM
Walter, thanks for the explanation. I didn't infer that you were angry.

I get it. I was making a simple concept complicated. I've never done that before!

X-RAY,

Yeah, I think po -filmic is the way to go. Thanks!

J.

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 10:12PM
Oh, no Walter! It wasn't you...it's all me. I'm a moody bastard. Like now. Manic phase -- wheeeeeeeee!

But I really don't know what I'm talking about.

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - Apr 23 2004 : 10:34PM
I thought I was the only one.

J.

xzchief
New Member

SoCal
4 Posts
4/04
Posted - Apr 24 2004 : 6:42AM
I've looked too. The best information I've found is that, since she had only been working three months, her titles haven't been released yet.
Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Apr 24 2004 : 10:30AM
From what I've been able to find from looking at World Health Org. websites, CDC websites, and information on CBSNews.com, which they based on United Nations data:

The rate of HIV/AIDS infection in the entire US is 0.5-0.7%.
(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/60minutes/main610961.shtml)

The rate of HIV/AIDS infection in Eastern Europe/Central Asia (includes parts of the former Soviet Union and all eastern European countries) is 0.5-0.9%
(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/60minutes/main610961.shtml)

The rate of HIV/AIDS infection in all of Brazil is 0.57%, very similar to the US.
(http://www.paho.org/English/HCP/HCA/Brazil.pdf)

With regards to Brazil, however, the relevant population is that of sex workers, since most porn performers come from this group (there was a recent post from Carioca who's from Brazil, stating this). In the city of Sao Paolo, the rate among sex workers of HIV infection is 18%, as measured in 1998 (from the paho.org document above) One can assume the rate is similar in Rio de Janeiro, which is only 250 miles north of Sao Paolo.

When American porn actors go to Brazil, they're not having sex with Amazonian Indians, it's with these porn performers/sex workers, and the sex is mostly non-condom, so this specific (and high) rate in Brazil is important.

It is true that the rate historically of US porn workers is low. However, because of the many sex partners that the typical porn performer will have during one month of work, an infection like HIV can spread quite far in a short time. On the AIM quarentine list, there are 50 different porn performers who are quarentined (http://www.aim-med.org/Quarantine.html), all stemming from one person (not certain yet if it was Darren James or Lara Roxx) being infected with the HIV virus. And on the list are performers from not only the US, but Canada, Belgium and the Czech Republic. So, you can see how far-reaching this can get.

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