With all due respect to Mr. Deen, I'm starting to feel more intimately acquainted with his body than with most porn starlets. It seems that the girls are very attracted to him and that makes for a good scene, but because he is in almost every scene I watch, it's becoming distracting. Has anyone else noticed this?
You're lucky those guys are working as much as they do, since generally they seem to really turn the gals on. The talent pool ain't what it used to be.
Well, I'm not going to start that "There should be a million guys lined up to do this job" stuff. But surely there are at least ten or twenty men in the world who 1) Want the job, 2) Are hot to the girls, 3) Disease-free, 4) Can take instructions, and 5) can keep wood (Viagra levels the playing field a little with #5). What other qualifications are there? I think the real reason is that you have a few producers / directors / talent cliques who dominate the field and suck up the talent pool. In other words, it's really politics/money, not a lack of potential talent. There are almost 200 million men in the U.S. If you're saying a good male porn performer is a one-in-a-million find, then there should be 400 of them.
Yeah, I really think you may have to start watching other stuff by different companies or directors. Certain directors really do like using certain guys a lot. Just makes their job easier I guess. It's the gift and the curse of porn. This site (generally) tags the male talent in films pretty well, so just look to see if certain males names are there or not. A guy like Deen really does cover a lot of demographics. Young, good-looking, big dick, chicks dig him, plus he's good with dialogue, so he'll always work a lot.
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Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 10:29AM
Guys like James and Manuel mostly only stick to performing for certain production companies now. I only see Manuel in either his own movies for EA, or in stuff for Digital Playground. James seems to stick mostly with Brazzers now. So it all depends on what you're watching. I agree that there should be more of a variety of pron performers- both male and female. It is true that there's only a small handful of men in the porn talent pool who work regularly. The main reason for that is because the established guys who are in it have a lockdown on most of the work that is available, making it hard for new guys trying to find work to get any. Porn is like in any other industry: getting in is not really about what you know, but who you know. If you have the right connections, you can probably have an easier time getting into the industry and finding work. But even then, you'll still have to compete with the guys who are already popular and established, and these guys aren't going to pass up any available work. Being a male performer is probably 10 hex more competitive than being a female performer. The reason for this is because the industry is always looking for new female performers. With male performers, they are content with the few that they already have.
yea it really does seem like the male talent pool has dried up. Every company shoots the same five guys over and over again. At first you don't notice, but after a while it gets old and mildly annoying. James Deen does the same "Pornstar Punishment " thing every scene. As long as the girl is hot I guess, it can mostly be ignored.
great points, when was the last time a new release did not have at least one of the following performers in it: James Deen, Evan Stone, Anthony Rosano , Mr. Pete or Dane Cross. It been a long time for me. I understand the female performers have a limited approved list but lately it bad.
Good point. They need to put more effort into finding various male talent as they do female talent, one gets tired of the same small stable of men (the ones that view str8 porn specifically for the men) . . . . Then the ones that are hot aren't used as they should be! SAD!!
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Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 9:40PM
Yankran, I agree with you. Also, don't leave out Rocco Reed. He's in basically everything. I'm not saying these regulars aren't great performers. However, there is such a thing as over-exposure. It's getting ridiculous with the same male performers in movie after movie.
My question is: Why are guys like Rosano, Cross, Castle and Reed getting more DVD work than Johnny Sins, someone who's at least as attractive and definitely a better performer? Edited by - mek on 12/29/2010 12:13:03 AM
Amen. God forbid we have sex scenes with attractive men as well as women who aren't old enough to be the girl's father. Watch a little 70's porn and you'll realize how good you have it.
It's a matter of taste, but I found him a bit distant and cold. And as another poster noted, it also has to do with a girl's approve list. James Deen and Manuel are pretty much on every girl's approve list. If you've only seen a girl with a performer once, chances are she didn't care for him.
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Round and Brown 17 Breast Beginnings Lex Steele XXX 13 White Cream Pie Amateurs Goo Girls 39 Cum Fart Cocktails 8 Dcups.com My Daughter's Boyfriend 3 Dinner Affair Not sure what I'm trying to say, except that there is a lot of porn out there. I can go on adding lots of titles to the list above without having to fall back on European titles, Brazilian titles, or all black titles. IMHO, people who complain that there is not enough variety in porn should start watching a bigger variety of porn than they are currently doing. Yes, it's out there. I can't promise it's any good or if it's to your liking, but it is out there.
It's a shame, though, if there's something about his personality, or something behind the scenes that dissuades girls and companies from working with him. He's everything a porn fan could look for in a male performer: He looks clean and attractive - making it believable that girls would be attracted to him; he's a great performer - he really seems to focus on and succeed in pleasing his partners; and, most importantly, he hardly ever does or says anything annoying or distracting in a scene, something that can't be said about a lot of other well-known male performers, including Ferrara and Deen. It's surprising and disappointing that someone with all these qualities isn't a bigger, more utilized star in this industry. It's a mystery that I'll continue to be curious about until I come across a definitive answer.
I don't pay too much attention to the male talent. That being said it's does seem to be the same 4 guys in everything i see. James Deen, Mick Blue, Mr Pete, Manuel and a couple of guys who names i don't know. For a while it looked like Keni Styles might be creeping in there. As far as i'm concerned if the dick is hard and shoots a decent money shot, it doesnt matter who it is.
Yeah you mentioned him, anyone else? Does the OP have a favorite or two that he would like to see more of, or does anyone else? Or is this just a post to complain about how many scenes James gets? Not that you can't complain. But with porn production being a bit less than it was in years previous, it makes a certain sense that preferred male talent will have the available slots locked up. So it goes.
It's not that I pay attention to the male talent but after awhile it gets kind of old watching the same pairings over, and over again. I mean how many times do we have to watch a Kristina Rose/Manuel Ferrara scene. Don't get me wrong they have good chemistry but I've seen them at least 6 times. As people have said James Deen is in everything. I have seen him in a scene with Jayden James at least 5 times. What has happened to me is when a movie comes out I tend to see who the pairings are. Why? I guess it's only because if it's something I have seen I don't want to view again...unless it's like an "anal first". Just my two cents.
Let me start by saying I have no tolerance for ugly fat guys in porn. Some guys like seeing dudes they can relate to with hot girl but I do not. For me it's like saying you want a guy with no fight training to beat up Jackie Chan onscreen because you can't relate to someone who's been trained to fight since childhood. I want to see equals onscreen. Yes, Sins is professional, but sometimes that can make a scene cold. John Strong is in good shape and professional, but he's like a robot to me and I won't watch scenes with him. Also, doesn't Sins do like 99% of his work with Digital Playground? That that doesn't allow for a lot of exposure when Jessie Jane needs you every time she works.
Don't know the last two, but Talon and Tommy get hired all the time. As does Johnny Sins. Sins has been in quite a few of my last purchases, so he's not exactly tough to find. Donnie Long retired after only a few films...I think. It seems clear that some male performers prefer some companies more than others, but there have always been some companies or directors who mix-it-up more than others. Doesn't hurt to let directors know what you want though. The onus is usually on the women though.
[/quote] Let me start by saying I have no tolerance for ugly fat guys in porn. Some guys like seeing dudes they can relate to with hot girl but I do not. For me it's like saying you want a guy with no fight training to beat up Jackie Chan onscreen because you can't relate to someone who's been trained to fight since childhood. I want to see equals onscreen. Yes, Sins is professional, but sometimes that can make a scene cold. John Strong is in good shape and professional, but he's like a robot to me and I won't watch scenes with him. Also, doesn't Sins do like 99% of his work with Digital Playground? That that doesn't allow for a lot of exposure when Jessie Jane needs you every time she works. [/quote]First of all, kudos and lols for your "fighting Jackie Chan" analogy. I totally agree. I also totally agree with you about Strong, which is why I generally avoid his scenes as well. As for Sins, I see how others can see him as being cold and detached and too professional, particularly since porn fans nowadays are so used to seeing guys like Deen, Ferrara, Everhard, et al. But like you said, it's a matter of taste. For me, that's exactly what I like about Sins. That's how you can tell how great a performer he is. There's nothing extraneous. No side antics. He doesn't say much or try too hard, he simply gets the job done. You can tell that girls genuinely like him, his "attributes" and how he performs. He's got passion and intensity, but it's totally focused on making the girls feel good - not degrading them or roughing them up - and he generally succeeds. That's what I want to see and focus on seeing, not the male performer acting and talking like a jackass. For me, he's really the only guy out there who perfectly fits this bill. And as for him working with DP, it's funny you should bring that up, because that's basically what stirred up my curiosity about the state of his career in the first place. He did work for them a lot - back in '08 and '09 - and seemed on track to be a regular performer for them. I was looking forward to seeing more scenes of him working with their great lineup of contract girls - and less of Deen and Ferrara - but it's been over a year and nothing new has come out. It's not the end of the world, and not the end of his career, but I'm just wondering what happened.
He's started to work a LOT more for Brazzers in the last year or so. He's been one of their go-to guys for a few years now, but lately he's on there pretty much all the time (might have an exclusive contract with them nowadays, not sure). At a quick count, he's had 16/11/14 scenes on there for the months of October-December.
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Posted - Dec 30 2010 : 11:22PM
He did release a porn movie a few years ago. AFAIK, he didn't perform in it.I know your question is probably rhetorical. But some good new releases I have seen recently are: Anal Buffet #5 Sorry Daddy, Whitezilla Broke My Little Pussy #7 Cum Drops Anal Frenzy All of these are good movies that don't have any of the performers you mentioned. So again, it all depends on what you're watching. Having said that, I don't have a problem with any of the guys you mentioned. With the exception of Dane Cross, who I've probably only seen in maybe one movie, they're all good performers. I was also going to add Cum Glazed to this list. But then I remembered that Evan Stone is in that movie. It doesn't matter though. It's still a great movie.He is? I always considered Rocco Reed to be among the least employed men in porn. Off the top of my head, I can't count more than a handful of scenes in which I have seen him. I certainly haven't seen him in anything recently. Again, it just goes to show that it all depends on what you're watching.Since this thread is about male talent, I'm assuming that's who you're asking about. Again, I don't have a problem with guys like Manuel, Mr. Pete, Erik, et. al. They all deliver good scenes. So they're all OK in my book. Speaking of Manuel, I just saw him in an episode of Manswers last night where it was giving guys pointers on how to get into porn. Manuel was interviewed on the episode.Talon- No Tommy Gunn- No Donnie Long- Don't care Frank Gun- European Hakan Serbes- Isn't he long retired? Haven't seen him since Seymore Butts was making movies. Edited by - realtip on 12/30/2010 11:23:29 PM
[/quote]shalalin wrote: He's started to work a LOT more for Brazzers in the last year or so. He's been one of their go-to guys for a few years now, but lately he's on there pretty much all the time (might have an exclusive contract with them nowadays, not sure). At a quick count, he's had 16/11/14 scenes on there for the months of October-December. [/quote]Yeah but I was hoping that, just like Deen and Nails, he'd also be - and it looked like he would be - a go-to guy for the major dvd companies, which of course have girls who can't work for Brazzers. It's just curious and disappointing that these girls are back to working with mostly the same old (career-wise) guys, instead of a very good newer and, in my opinion, better performer getting more of a chance. Edited by - mek on 1/9/2011 10:29:48 PM
Plus he's packin' (Voodoo), i haven't seen him in anything for a good while . . .
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 5:42PM
Mark Ashley... awesome performer and good sized cock which he can actually get hard. Brandon Iron too... same thing. Edited by - mikesalami on 1/10/2011 8:50:20 PM
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Posted - Jan 10 2011 : 9:10PM
The reason you see a lot of Deen, is the man is a fucking machine. He always delivers. He has good wood and gives a great pop shot without having to jack himself for an eternity. I think he is the best anal fucker in the business. He really tries to make sure the girl is enjoying it. Companies want to use reliable guys and he is one of the best plus he has stated in interviews, he loves his work. Who wouldn't.
Voodoo has been at Reality Kings a lot lately and mostly packing the young ones in the Pure18 and Cumfiesta updates. He gives them a workout for sure and his scenes with Nicole Aniston, Britney Beth, Alyssa Branch, and Natalia Roque are all A+ material.
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