Brandon's,Jule's or Mike John's flicks use to feature mega swallowing 10-20+ loads but lately it's like 5-6. are the girls turning it down or wanting to much $$$. Maybe it's just me but I found it funny as hell watch a girl "trying" to down a pint of ball juice. One of Brandon's flicks (spermcocktail.com) featuring a couple of chicks named Starla and Natalie was fricken epic and a riot to watch. Anyone have something coming down the pipeline (no pun intended) anytime soon? or is this now a lost art?
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NewRomancer Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 12 2009 : 3:35AM
"Is massive swallowing a thing of the past?" Fuck, I hope so!
I can't speak for anyone else but I've opened my yapper so much that there's nothing more to say. It takes money -- a lot of it -- to produce wild and crazy content. I still have yet to receive a check from any tube site. I still haven't cashed any payment from a P2P file sharing network. I own some very good content in the form of BAKER'S DOZEN and A GOOD SOURCE OF IRON yet the monthly royalties paid by the distributor would not be enough to hire one woman for one single one-on-one scene per month....without a male co-star....without having a makeup artist....or location....or pay an agent....or a Happy Meal. What I have plenty of are requests to make more, MORE, MORE!!! Been there, done that. Had the t-shirt but it was taken off my back. This isn't a rant. It's an explanation. Ok...it's a rantnation because I loved producing that stuff and had some very good times.
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Posted - Aug 13 2009 : 1:34AM
I think we are all aware of how you got screwed by PX. So I will assume you just can't make enough money back, personally I loved your old stuff and own all the Good Source of Iron titles and I wish you would have got paid enough from them. Hopefully you learned enough from that mess and someday move on. But I'll say this (and it's no knock against you) I think the new stuff is mostly "meh" and I wont be buying them. Lets face facts, what got you popular was the old stuff...not the new! I learned a long time ago..what gets you there keeps you there.
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Posted - Aug 13 2009 : 1:42AM
Someone forcing you watch, or did you throw up when you tried it?
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Posted - Aug 13 2009 : 2:50AM
"Maybe it's just me but I found it funny as hell watch a girl "trying" to down a pint of ball juice." It's probably just you
Indeed. It's not a fetish of mine, I must admit that, but considering the health risks its just not worth it. A girl swallowing two guys should be enough, after that it just gets extremely expensive to make it safe (and still risky regardless of precautions).
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Aug 16 2009 : 6:47AM
I'd guess that a whole lot more people want to watch Kristina Rose and Kimberly Kane in a rough sex scene than want to watch a bunch of mopers standing around in their white socks jerking off.Unless Brandon owned a time machine I don't see how this could be otherwise.
You can't be all things to all people. It's sad when change happens but I enjoy what I do now, too. She Is Half My Age is my best-selling series now. It's also the least expensive to produce. As long as I can still compete, I'm going to keep going. There's just a new financial reality to deal with.
If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06
Posted - Aug 16 2009 : 2:59PM
Brandon.. As you know, I don't work in the adult business every single day, but even with my limited experience I can see that getting a huge facial shoot done would be complicated and expensive. One thing I always hear about are people who are hired/scheduled for a production and then they don't show up. So when you are doing some sort of grand bukkake, do you have to schedule more people than you really need, to make up for those who don't show up, or can't pass the AIM test?
Guys flake, girls flake. It's just one big mixup. The more people involved, the greater the potential for something to go wrong.
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Taylor Von Bailey Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 16 2009 : 7:31PM
I think massive swallowing is a thing of the past. None of the prettier girls are interested in doing it and the whole shoot must cost thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. I would love to see some of my favorite stars swallowing massive loads but it doesn't appear to be economically feasible. I would help produce it if I had the money but the problem is I don't. How much would the average scene cost for you Brandon? I'm just curious because you say that it is really expensive and I only could dream of creating the swallowing magic that you and Mike John have with such beautiful girls. If I ever get rich, massive swallowing with the hottest babes will make a huge return. I promise you all that.
Costs vary but I have shot single scenes that $10K. One scene. Most cost far less, of course, but it doesn't make me feel any better to see my content that I paid for given away for free. I love what I do and would give my bottom dollar to keep doing it. The problem is, I've already put that bottom dollar into the content. There's nothing else I can do. Series like She Is Half My Age are fun to shoot and easy to make. I enjoy doing them and a different fan base is reached. I'm forced to adapt to a whole new reality and that's fine. When all you have to offer is your brand or your style, that's what you rely on.
If it's a thing of the past...then so is me spending money on porn.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Aug 17 2009 : 11:08AM
Brandon, I'm curious as to know what kind of dialogue goes on with the girl when you were recruiting her to take say 20 cumshots into her mouth without swallowing? Is it a straight forward? "okay honey, in this scene I want you to sit on the chair and these 20 guys are going to cum in your mouth one right after another!" "Do I swallow between the shots?" "No, I want you to hold them all in your mouth and do one big swallow at the end" Is it something like that, or completely different. Please shed some light on this for us, as I'm sure we'd all find this kind of interesting.
I hear about it, watch it and i must say it does not sit well with me, the bukake sperm thing is not my favourite, one or two loads IMO is fine but anymore i just don't like it, but then i tend to watch some of this content again and again. if i had not then i would have missed Courtney Cummz who is a dirty young lady, so Brandon Irons i take my hat off to you as it's where i saw her first so thanks.
Rosco. It's a complex series of hand signals similar to the ones used in professional baseball. Two taps on the chin plus an open mouth mean, "Open your mouth." One counterclockwise rub of the tummy means, "Swallow."
I don't know about massive swallowing (which raises the risk of STD's exponentially), but I wish the girls would either swallow or take the cum up the ass rather than on the face! I love porn but hate cum on the girl's body (especially in the eyes). If the actress won't swallow there is always a condom (use Crown or Beyond Seven and you don't see it anyway)!
you obviously ask the girls what there limits would be so would love to hear some of their answers and would love to know what chelsies answer would have been?
going a few a few old threads although hit and miss with people loads of people have mentioned delilah strongs scenefor jules jordans feeding frenzy and just wondered if youd ever attempt something along those lines? as i have realised that some of your scenes have been more inventive ie Andi anderson as the chef on sperm cocktail etc
Chelsea is a swallowing legend. It's a pity porn seems to have taken a back burner in her life right now. If it could have ever been possible to set up a world record swallowing scene then Chelsea would have been the girl to do it. I'm sure see could have swallowed a hundred loads easy and not even batted an eyelid, let alone chuck it all back up at the end of the scene. Her 'American Gokkun' scenes are awesome. The only other girl that came near to her was Sasha Knox in 'American Bukkake 29.' She swallowed a ton of cum in that one. Nothing says romance like anal sex.
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Aug 20 2009 : 11:57AM
For a true insight into Chelsie, you need to check out the BTS in the second Gokkun. While it's certainly not ground breaking material by any stretch, it's really hot to see her naked interacting with Keannie (sp)about the task at hand. They are both in the moment and while it might have been helped along a bit by alcohol or whatever, you can truly tell that they are into the taking the 75 or so shots to the face.
I recall hearing the famous Japanese Summit Bukkake line and GGG sploogefests were easier on the bankroll because they made the donaters pay to perform But I am going to go check out that new line you mentioned Brandon because there are some people who's porn-making talent is such that they always derserve a look-see
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 1:22PM
Mike Johns Sperm Receptacles 5 just was just announced. Katie St. Ives looks like a total cutie More than likely there won't be a massive swallow but it looks good. http://media.julesjordanvideo.com/julesjordanvideo.com/boxcovers/2/sperm_receptacles_5-dvd-thumb.jpg
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testingahem Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 21 2009 : 2:37PM
Brandon, How much is swallowing a factor is the girls' pay scale?
hello again brandon i read your blog the other day and it showed the charts for the top porn websites and no1 was spermcocktail and no 3 jizzmouthwash so surely thats reason to carry on the massive swallowing scenes!
It was only the current ratings of site popularity on the 55-site Pornstarnetwork. I'm basically preaching to the converted, that's all. It's sort of false advertising but just reaffirms that members of the network seem to enjoy the content. It would help if 1,000,000 more members would sign up at www.brandoniron.com. If you can help make that happen, I would be eternally grateful. I'd settle for even half that number. Just making that clear.
Massive swalloing is a thing of the past, dp is a thing of the past, girls dont do anal anymore. Gonzos and the new girls gotten lame over the past 3 years. Anyone knows who started to tell the girls its fine to not do anal, dps and swallowing??? In 2004 you wouldnt have gotten a pornstar with that attitude. Now there are Kaceys, Amilas, Tanners,... They are all pornstars doing none of the shit that i dont do at home. Well sometimes its more hardcore with my girlfriend than they do on film. Wheres the fun ;) Im talking about US porn. All the russian girls are still doing the crazy stuff but its soooo hard to understand what they are talking lol
I feel sorry for you Brandon. Your shit was the shit man. Taylor in Bakers Dozen <- Youre a genius Brandon, classic! Last good and new scene matching the topic i accidently saw was Mia Ling in Jailbait 6. A damn cute girl, 4 or 5 loads, yummy. Like back in the days.
Yeah, man....Taylor Rain was a hot, hot performer.
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Taylor Von Bailey Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 27 2009 : 10:27PM
Hey guys, don't forget Cassandra Calogera. She's a swallowing champ too. She took 30 loads down without a problem and looked like she had one of the best times of her life. Massive swallowing is rarer and rarer these days but it's great to see beautiful women like Cassandra Calogera doing it and loving it. It definitely seems to have tamed down quite a bit in recent times. Money must be the major issue, or perhaps a loss of interest with the fans but I seriously doubt that.
Hi Brandon i have lost link of your blog to watch future updates. Any help will be appreciated. Also let me know update for Jeannie Marie SC scene, please.
I guess everything's possible but I've learned not to make any promises. It avoids disappointments. I'm doing the best I can at the moment and have things set for a while.
Hey Cassandra - would you do a big swallow scene for spermcocktail.com or No Cum Dodging Allowed / Feeding Frenzy / Sperm Receptacles? I'd love to see you with a mouth filled with cum!