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jizuzjuice
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Posted - Jun 27 2016 : 2:23AM
Porn nowadays been lacking the ATM performance. With so many cuts and digital tampering. Is this a dying art?
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Jun 27 2016 : 3:38AM
It's alive and well at Legal Porno....
jeffandersonn
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Posted - Jun 27 2016 : 4:50AM
not only atm, but the US Gonzo porn is dying.
Dragon Sign
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Posted - Jun 27 2016 : 5:04AM
First time witnessing it I was probably watching a scene from eastern Europe, maybe somewhere in Russia, Everhard had a doggy stack going or something. Can't say I became a fan of the ATM thing. But stacking is hot. If that was a dying art, I'd had much more trouble with that for a fact. Maybe it is a dying art. Hope to get it on the Orgy Masters 8 soon to be received. But ATM will probably appear. So this thread is kinda dead to me.
A2T2M
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 3:42PM
I definitely agree. I love solo anal and lesbian toy atm. It is becoming very rare and almost non-existent.
What is worse is the either the filming, the editing and camera switch.
A) The filming part drives me crazy, when that dildo is deep in her ass the camera man feels or does not plan for capturing the atm in complete detail. A good atm with toy would follow the dildo straight to sucking and not be capturing all sorts of other things. To me it's not really atm.
And why the hell when it is captured correctly, the camera man needs to suddenly zoom the camera to the models face. That is absolutely the worst of all.
B) Editing the atm parts out is also a huge annoyance.
C) All the camera view switches are another big travesty. Why the hell when they pull out the dildo do they suddenly feel they need another camera angle. We can't even see the dildo slide out of her ass.
All the above ruins the "ATM" part of scene and any non-continuous shot is blatantly to me a non-atm scene as potential cheating going on.
If anything, I would hope Mike Adriano would do more solo and lesbo stuff as I think he is the only one the captures it well enough for no cheating.
 
sweetsformysweet
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 4:36PM
Gotta love ATM, can't say it's been missing though. Been in most I've seen recently :)
Macko69
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 4:56PM
I have no problem with a woman being allowed to wipe some shit residue off of a guy's dick before she puts it in her mouth. But heaven forbid she be allowed to do something that lowers her chances of getting really sick, as long as YOU get off, right? Do any of you even view these women as people?
A2T2M
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 5:04PM
Did I ever say that she can't wipe off? That wasn't even my argument. My point being is ";&;semi;if there is atm";&;semi; it's not being captured properly. That's more of my point of what I was getting at.
There was a Devon and Kagny Linn Karter scene on Brazzers. Done well, Kagney was doing atm and then suddenly the camera shifts over to zoom in on Devon's face for no particular reason. My points where that if the model is ok with doing atm, the director/camera doesn't place it as a ";high priority"; part of filming. Being rare and all that's what I have issues with. Or if switching camera views at that point, don't tell me there ATM in it.
In the end, if there is ATM in it, why are they ruining the scene by sudden film angle changes or changing to a face view or something that makes no sense.
Besides that, it's all ATOGM these days and no more ATM.
Edited by - A2T2M on 7/25/2016 5:15:56 PM
Edited by - A2T2M on 7/25/2016 5:18:13 PM
Macko69
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 5:33PM
Of course not. First of all, nobody said any of these actresses "can't" do anything, because that would imply that you have control over the situation, which you don't. But you did say this:
So you'd have no problem with a girl taking a dick out of her (or some other girl's) ass, wiping it down well enough to thoroughly clean it, cleaning their hands, then sucking on it? Really? Seriously, when you ATM lovers talk about a "lack of cuts", I think we all know exactly what that means, and it certainly doesn't involve someone thoroughly wiping the dick off, then disinfecting their hands off too BEFORE the girl starts to suck on it.
A2T2M
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 5:53PM
Does it sound like I'm ";making the model"; do it. Perhaps, but that not what my post was about. I do agree models have a choice whether they do it or not. My point being is the directing/camera work being done. Scene edits and cutting are fine, but to me it is suggesting there is when there isn't. My point being not with the models but with the directing/camera work if the model(s) want to do it.

Edited by - A2T2M on 7/25/2016 5:54:21 PM

Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 5:58PM
Porn performers clean out their asses very good before anal scenes.... you will be hard pressed to find anyone that has got sick from ATM. Ass to Pussy is the one where sometimes there might be an infection after from bacteria. ATM... unless it is some revolting scene intended to have the girl suck dirty dicks, not much is going to happen. Maybe you can rebut me with some instance here or there, however ,out of thousands upon thousands of ATM in the last few years in porn, women getting sick from ATM is close to non existent.
Sex is the ultimate exchange of germs, fluids, and bacteria. ATM in porn is near the bottom of the ladder in terms of people having consequences from it. More of an issue in the real world because a lot of women don't have a regular cleaning routine, in porn, it is part of the job.
Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/25/2016 6:02:37 PM
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 6:00PM
Plenty of it in Legal Porno (pretty much every scene have cocks moving between mouths and asses with regularity as guys switch around).
A2T2M
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 6:09PM
They aren't big on capturing ATM either. It's more gape and ass licking focus and way over done ATOGM. Camera work is less to be desired. Consistent need to have close ups all the time is annoying. If they changed their camera work, I do think they would have best scenes out there right now.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 4:52PM
Isn't there loads of this in Adriano's scenes?
Dragon Sign
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 4:54PM
So let it be, Adriano is a robot and me I'm sceptic.
 
jeffandersonn
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 5:24PM
yep, U.S. gonzo in dead. no atm, even swallow is gone.

BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 5:27PM
^ Swallowing is gone? You're delusional.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 5:46PM
you need to pick your porn better.. .US gonzo is not "dead'..... there is "less"being produced........ still enough to fill the porn diet :)
A2T2M
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 6:07PM
But if they do atm, why is it always so badly captured. That's my biggest beef. This crazy need to have camera's focused close in all the time is ruining the atm scenes.
Jay Sin is one who captures it nicely, unfortunately atm is extremely rare and doesn't occur much in his scenes.
Adriano is good at capturing it, but some of his is slowly going away also.
jeffandersonn
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 6:21PM
i'm used to 2000-2008 gonzo productions.
gonzo nowadays is pretty lame. all the best directors are gone. Mike john, john leslie, jake malone, Su, chico wang etc etc. they were just focused on sex, and that was good sex, exactly what i expected from professional sex workers. And they knew how to use a camera.
Now every scene is the same, shot only from a side, dutch angle until the end, talents don't know how to assume good positions, and most of the time they are forced to perform on tiny couch.
no more bukkake, no more gokkun, no more massive anal creampies, lack of atm, cuts everywhere......it is really bad.

BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 6:47PM
Chico Wang knew how to use a camera? If you love shots of guys assholes and balls, sure.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Jul 26 2016 : 7:47PM
There is a lot more to gonzo than 50 man circuses.



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