I love all the focus there are on spit scenes today but one thing i really miss, is when girls swallows mulitple/massive loads and the classic cumcocktail.. Is that category just completely gone or am i just looking the wrong places?
Well, there's some euperean pages that still works with swallow, but there's just a few. Check Putalocura.com Swallow is almost dead even in regular scenes and I don't understand why. Directors these days are not concerd in ask the girl if she could swallow. I miss the old days when Diabolic used to produce those great series where the girls were fucked right and swallow in the end of all scenes.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 9 2014 : 10:08AM
100000 + porn sucks.....at least in these days. no more swallow....facials everywhere.... most of the time guys miss the target and cum right on the floor.....what a shame
Yep so true, it sucks and they wonder why no one buys porn anymore. I dont anywhere near as much as i used too. Ive gone from spending at least 30 dollars every month to around 30 dollars every 6 months, which is about how often a new porn thats worth watching comes out nowadays. I miss the diabolic days :(, fresh young sluts fucked properly and swallowing all the time, now its wannabe models who i guess want paying a fortune for doing things that are barely even naughty. Except for a few performers here and there, but it is very few nowadays.
Massive fan of both swallowing and facials.I do not like scenes that end any other way .There are so many cum dodgers in porn these days.Cum dodging and not taking clothes off really drive me crazy.Cannot watch such scenes at all.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 9 2014 : 1:04PM
too bad this kind of porn is dead before the HD era...... mike john produced some great content.....plenty of anal/DP action....great camera work....lots of swallows but DVD quality. i'm already watching 4k porn and for me it's almost impossible to go back to DVDs
I agree. I like (true) creampies the best. But if you aren't going to do that, at least squirt in her open mouth and have her swallow it. So many fucking scenes end with terrible facials, where the guy just beats off and then dribbles some cum out onto her cheek. So fucking lame.
That's exactly what i mean, there is too much cum dodging in porn today... I really miss when they used to play & swallow with several loads! The only one i have seen swallow several is Veruca James...
It does seem that the golden age of swallowing was in the mid 2000's and that time has passed. Keri Sable was always a consistent swallower and it helped put her scenes over the top for me.
^ A couple of choice Keri Sable swallows: Keri's finishing swallow in Anal Expedition 6 is pretty epic. Erik Everhard, John Strong, Manuel Ferrara, and Michael Stefano all cum into Melissa Lauren and Sophia's mouths. They hold the loads and when the guys finish they spit their mouthfuls into Keri's open mouth. She holds it all in her mouth for a bit and then gulps it all down. Incredible! Another good one was in Cum Filled Asshole Overload 2. After getting gangbanged hard by five guys Keri bends over on the ground in the doggy position, ass pointed up into the air. Then the guys all take turns cumming into her asshole. Once she was filled up Erik Everhard gets behind her with a small glass bowl. The cum oozes from her open ass into the bowl. Erik pours the bowl into her mouth, she holds it for a moment, and then swallows. She was the great one.
We should talk to MimeFreak and ask for scenes end with a swallow. There's a lot of girls these day that probably won't mind to swallow, but the director needs to ask them and filme it right!
We should talk to MimeFreak and ask for scenes end with a swallow. There's a lot of girls these day that probably won't mind to swallow, but the director needs to ask them and filme it right!
Girls today don't want to swallow cum anymore than past performers did but there was a monetary incentive for those in the past that is no longer there now. Couple that with all the HIV scare in the last few years and you get performers that aren't willing to take the risk.
My favorite actresses almost always swallow and I hate when they don't. Wonder why a director wouldn't want them to do it; I know it happens all to often. Cream pies are a distant second in my preference chart with facials coming in only slightly ahead of elsewhere on the body.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 10 2014 : 4:09AM
worst thing to see in porn.....at the end of a scene, a girl waits with open mouth and the guy cums everywhere but not a single drop of cum goes in her mouth....
Times have changed If you look at early scenes with Tori Black she takes several loads and swallows, and this was before she even did anal. Now some girls do really well and be booked by every company/website and still have not swallowed a single load on camera. Will not list any names as we all now them. I think main difference is money and from several perspectives both producers and performers Mason are doing great stuff and have now taken here series over to Hardx, she is repeatable getting girls to do their "first" , she could probably pull off a swallowing movie. Who would we wish in such movie? Casey Calvert Anikka Albrite Jodi Taylor Veruca James AJ Appelgate Katie St.Ives Jada Stevens The girls are there but are the money and the cum? I still like watching the massive swallowing that was done in series like cum coat my throat a good source of iron down the hatch Where Hillary Scott would do DP and DAP and round it up with swallowing 12 loads
If youre talking about multiple swallows - then yeah, those seem to have decreased. But it seems like single swallows have actually increased. Or atleast more of the big stars are doing single swallowing.
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Posted - Dec 11 2014 : 1:29AM
Nowadays companys spent their whole budget in 30 sec of a a vanilla dap and andvertising it as it would be sooo hardcore. Let the girls swallow min. 5 loads at once and then see what reaction that has on the customer. Why is V for Vicki then the best porn movie in 2014??
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Posted - Dec 11 2014 : 8:45PM
ultimate_sperminator Like my rapper friend 2 Chainz says....." If yo girl don't swallow kids, man that hoe basic" Lol Thank you considering V for Vicki the best porn movie of 2014 ;) Happy Holiday's! xo VC
This scene is also in the Evil Angel compilation 'Katsuni/Melissa Lauren: Battle of the Sluts 2'. I've been searching high and low for it since I read Fahrenheit's post. Anal Expedition 6 actually seems pretty hard to come by so I was chuffed to find this - and for individual download, too, from Hot Movies. Loved Sophia for the longest time - great scene! Edited by - N00dlesDaddy on 12/12/2014 3:19:15 PM
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 11:20AM
12 loads? Those days are clearly over.
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 1:23PM
there is something wrong in US porn. In Spain and Germany producers are still making blowbangs with more than 20 guys....i can name Putalocura.com and John Thompson Production. and they make money from them.....so american producers need to find the right formula to keep shooting this kind of porn.
There will have to be a company out there that takes swallowing movies over the way Blacked has done interracial scenes. As it has been said many times here before people can watch interracial without complete over the top racist stereotypes coming into play. The same thing would have to happen with swallowing scenes again. They would have to appeal to a broad range of people and not look like scene from John Thompson's movies. But I won't complain since I like the GGG movies and own a couple.
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Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 2:58PM
personally i don't like GGG Style. but it works. they sell and keep shooting blowbangs American producers complain that blowbangs are too expensive etc etc but truth is they are not shooting good swallow blowbangs since 2009/2010. clearly i do not want to pay to see "blowbangs" with 4 or less guys where girls swallow loads one by one.....but this is what they offer at the moment. i'd be happy to pay 100 or 200 dollars for a single scene well shot, Brandon Iron or Mike john/Von Swine could easily take all my money if they start to shoot blowbangs like in the past years. Clearly now i pretend to download them in FULL HD with the best quality possible but they don't want to risk. that's why i suggest the idea of crowdfunding. No risk for producers.
word is that those dudes PAY to be in the blowbangs over there,.. also, it's a different pay scale for the chicks, so comparing US to Euro XXX is pretty irrelevant. some of you think it's as easy as deciding to just 'spend the money' like in the old days. the # of issues and problems w/making the old type of gonzo could keep me hear for paragraphs,... but I wrote about this decline and disappearance of blowbangs, etc. years ago over at the Mike John blog page...shame it had to come true... lates, von S.
Just joined Puta Locura. Does anyone know why, when browsing the scenes, clicking the back arrow constantly takes you back to the first page of results? So freaking annoying. Is there a workaround for this? Also, does this site 'time you out' after a while? I loaded about 60 scenes into my download manager yesterday, came back to check on progress after a couple of hours only to find most of them incomplete . When I'm sat at the computer monitoring them, the downloads seem to progress just fine. I've only joined a handful of porn sites in my time but never one that summarily disconnects me after a while. Does anyone know how long you can stay logged in for before the 'timeout' because I can't seem to find the option to log out manually? Another observation: the comments (wish I knew Spanish!). Why is everyone moaning that facials are 'not' bukkake? Unless I missed a meeting, facials are bukkake. Swallowing - which everyone seems to be demanding on PL's bukkake section - is gokkun. Personally, I like both so I'm happy. Completely OT, I know, but I love this time of year. Lots of girls in Santa hats advertising DVD sales.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 3:50AM
Hello, Tim. Speaking of bukkake / gokkun i can tell you for sure that guys do not pay in putalocura productions. and i cannot believe in US there are no way to find guys who want to shoot blowbangs for free. i mean, i'd pay to be in one of them!
That makes two of us, mate. Usually my number one thought when watching these things is...where do they find the guys? Internet recruitment?
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 11:27AM
well i'm not in the US. But if they want to find guys for blowbangs they can use twitter...... Jules Jordan has 80k followers!!!! he could say: " i'm looking for guys to shoot a blowbang next week in Los Angeles. who's coming? i cannot believe no one wants to be a part of that shoot!
^ I'm outside the US as well. What I always wonder, if the likes of GGG and PL are literally recruiting any old Tom, Dick & Harry, is do the guys have to be medically tested? Also, if a guy turns up looking like Quasimodo, does the girl have the right to say "He's not cumming in my face!"? Awkward.
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jeffandersonn Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 12:15PM
as far as i know they have to be tested. i still cant believe that in los angeles area there are not 15/20 good looking guys ready to shoot blowbangs.
GGG scenes are awesome but my biggest complaint is that most of the cum in mouth shots seem to be spat out and there is little actual swallowing with a few of the nastier stars such as Magdalena opting to wolf the cum down. Personally this bugs me and i would rather just see the star get facial coated than take it in the mouth only to spit it out. A good facial is right up there with a cum swallow to me so it is kind of like opportunity lost whichever money shot they decide on.
^ I don't get the hate for facials, particularly among the Puta Locura membership (unless, in Spain, what they refer to as 'bukkake' is actually gokkun). To this day, I've yet to see a better series of facials movies than Brandon Iron's Bakers Dozen. As much as I love GGG and PL, I really do crave an English soundtrack. Nothing better than hot girls begging to be drowned in cum. These type of movies are very much enhanced by nasty talk. I suppose I could always learn Spanish or German...
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 3:59PM
^^^ & ^^^^. Did you ever see some of those guys that show up for the Bukakke/Gokkun scenes of years gone by? Quazimodo (sp) would be a GQ model compared to some of those guys. And really, if you think about it, you're not going to get a bunch of studly looking guys to show up and stand around in a room jerking off together. I'm a fairly decent looking guy and there is no way in hell you'd get me into a room with 50 other dudes to have a group jerk off session for an hour or so and then for 10 seconds I get to dump a load onto some poor girl's baby batter covered face. Well, that's not completely true, you'd have to pay me at least as much as the girl is getting, make sure all the other mopes are freshly showered and deloused, and provide me with a private spank room right off stage left so I could cum and go real quick with as little as possible other mope interaction.
^ I feel secure enough in my own sexuality to be completely unfazed by any of that. You're right with the Quasimodo comment, though.
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 5:18PM
Yeah, I been noticing this no swallowing shit recently, do girls think it makes them less of a whore or something? Don't they realize they're porn stars? They lick ass, get their asshole blown out by some random guy for an hour straight but wont swallow cum? Most annoying thing of all is when a guy nuts in a girls mouth and she spits it out that shit really pisses me the fuck off.
I have been putting a lot of swallowing in my latest scenes. Make sure you check for them. Even some cum swapping as well. Glad I know you guys enjoy it. I will keep adding them.
well, believe it kid, because that's the truth. you think some guy who's RELIABLE on camera, w/our production $$$ on the line, is going to just show up to get blown for a total of like 3-5 minutes(tops), alongside 3-15 other dudes, after going to pay for a test out of his own pocket to the tune of $150-$180?... dude, it's NOT happening. and keep in mind, we hire people we LIKE on our sets, that don't cause any problems , don't steal anything, don't gripe over the million things that Mopes tend to gripe about, NOT cheeseball,..etc., etc.. I could go on forever as to why the guys that were hired and re-hired for blowbangs cant & never will be replaced by Mopes off of the street... and, I don't care how other 'shooters' staff their blowbangs, I don't use bukkake guys because they don't know how to interact w/the girls AT ALL,..they're just loads... I want energy from as many of the dudes in the circle as possible.. this is the best, concise explanation I can give you guys,... keep in mind gonzo isn't nearly as popular as it used to be, girls have SO many ways to be industrious and make $$$ off of porno, without hardly ever, if ever, performing anymore. so the gonzo environment pushing itself automatically is pretty much dead on that level. if someone puts out an AMAZING swallow movie, is it really going to wake anyone up on the 'business' or talent side of xxx? I don't think so... there's no charge to lead anymore man,.... and it's not like massive swallowing scenes haven't already been done in the past, by US of all people,...... we did it, for years we made those scenes/movies... let someone else try and step up and see how they fare...until then, find and enjoy the meager scraps the 'swallowing genre' has to offer... lates, von S.
Your wife [ and what a lucky bastard you are ] was one of the most amazing swallowers of all time in my book.Her expressions when she swallowed are still etched into my memory.LEGEND.That is what Tori Black is.And her swallowing in so many scenes is what makes her a LEGEND for me.
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Posted - Dec 17 2014 : 1:07AM
^ ^ The truth (in what you posted above) hurts, von_swine.
Hey-ho. I'm happy to continue watching 'the classics' (Good Source of Iron, Down the Hatch, Baker's Dozen, American Bukkake/Gokkun, Cum For Cover etc) as well as contemporary stuff from GGG and Puta Locura. Not into the Japanese stuff at all. Like I said before, only thing that lets those two down is lack of English dialogue.
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Posted - Dec 17 2014 : 4:32PM
Funny what you call a dead genre are still the most downloaded movies/scenes on all the top web sites, unless you learn what a "lost leader" is von all I can say is... enjoy your retirement.
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Posted - Dec 17 2014 : 5:21PM
dogfart.com release an IR blowbang with 10-12 guys every 2 months. Mason is still shooting a blowbang serie unfortunately all facials so there is a way to make them profitable. In my opinion, You and Mike produced the best porn ever..... but you do not have a site where download all your scenes. i think it's not possible to survive selling DVD only. that's why it's hard for you to shoot crazy scene like in the past years....i'm pretty sure if you start releasing all your old and new scenes in HD in you own website you get a shitload of subscriptions. and for that kind of scenes i'd happy to pay a lot more than 30 $ a month.
so yes, swallowing is dead. and no, for us, those scenes are not profitable or able to be staffed with the talent we feel brings the necessary dynamic required. you keep comparing me & Mike to other shooters who for the most part, are using other peoples prod. money and performers that we do not. that = apples & oranges Jeff... and keep in mind, Mike & I are STILL around w/NO internet presence because we do things OUR way w/our own $$$.. I have respect for any shooter still shooting blowbangs regardless of how they structure it, how they staff it, how they shoot it, and how they present it, since I've shot what, 100+ blowbangs over the years? it's a bit irritating when you have this cavalier attitude towards what does, or what 'should' work for us in XXX because you see 'other people doing it'. that doesn't mean it's all that profitable bro... I'm not here to divulge things about the biz that are too introspective since I know what other people pay, what companies sell for, etc.. and since I love & respect porno so much, it would be bad form and a total lack of respect to just lay it all out here to prove a point, to the fullest, on a message board. you either believe me, or you don't, and it's ok on either side. thanx for the kind words about the porno me & Mike have made over the years, and I hope we can keep you happy w/what we have coming in the future. I do my best to always be accessible to the fans to the fullest degree possible, so please don't take this as me flexing, because I'm not. NOBODY wants a rebound in this, and other gonzo genres more than me I can assure you that. thanx again for the feedback/participation and I hope to kick around any & all things xxx here soon. lates, von S. Edited by - von_swine on 12/18/2014 5:18:14 AM
How about moving to Russia and shooting scenes there then?Surely it would be pretty cheap for Americans now is it not?[:p)]Imagin shooting massive swallowing scenes with hot Russian girls or even the hot established eastern European stars like Aletta Ocean,Anna Polina etc
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Denial, your almost there now man. You claim Gonzo is dead yet you and your partner Jules keep re-hashing old scenes hoping to sell them again without notice. Sorry pal, I know for a fact your sales are about 30% of the glory days, I personally bought just about everything you guys put out until you started calling gangbangs three guys on one girl. Your not making money off new scenes because you watered down the product, not because it's dead. For now, enjoy semi-retirement
rambo99ca wrote: [/quote] Denial, your almost there now man. You claim Gonzo is dead yet you and your partner Jules keep re-hashing old scenes hoping to sell them again without notice. Sorry pal, I know for a fact your sales are about 30% of the glory days, I personally bought just about everything you guys put out until you started calling gangbangs three guys on one girl. Your not making money off new scenes because you watered down the product, not because it's dead. For now, enjoy semi-retirement [/quote] well, first I'm going to enjoy the AVN show in Vegas. then I'll enjoy whatever next comes my way, whether that might be retirement, we'll have to wait and see. you seem excited by that prospect but I'm sure to disappoint as xxx hasn't figured out a way to get rid of me yet. when my retirement does arrive will you be throwing confetti or rotten vegetables my way? I'd like to dress accordingly. happy 2015 Rambo, I suppose someones gotta be the 1st to say something nice to you this year. ;) lates, von S.