With the exception of Gangland's continuing recruitment of European girls to appear in its Gangland series, I'm hard-pressed to think of many gangbangs that have been produced recently. That's a change from a few years ago, when it seemed like girls were lined up out the door to appear in the GBA, GBG, and other series. Even DPs and blowbangs seem to me to be a bit less common, and, aside from the afoementioned Gangland series, while Eurobabes do a lot of DPs, true gangbangs involving them have always been petty rare. Are these perceptions correct, or am I looking in the wrong places? If indeed the number of gangbangs has declined dramatically, is it because it's harder to find the money to pay a bunch of guys, harder to find the money to pay girls the gangbang premium, harder to find girls who'll do a gangbang, or some other reason? I'll take this opportunity to once again pitch my idea for a revival of the Starbangers concept, wherein a girl who usually doesn't do gangbangs does one. Find girls for the scenes who don't do a lot of (or any) multi-guy scenes -- that won't be hard these days. Instant classics, IMHO. Even if that's not a valid idea, I find myself rewatching a lot of GBG and GBA scenes and wishing for I'd see some of today's cuties doing similar scenes. Edited by - Pete Zaface on Feb 11 2009
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Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 10:51AM
Aside from the monetary reasons you've already thought of, the gangbang as you envision it is a fairly stale format and out of vogue at the moment. Now you're seeing smaller groups as part of an escalating stage of intensity and variation ala The Gauntlet. Mini bangs are still present in many productions, just not presented as gangbangs per se. Mike John does this a lot. The Gangland series was never a pure gangbang either, as there were never more than four men in any scene I've ever watched, excluding the Super Whiteboy Stomp with Monique. I'm sure there'll be a renewal of the old format down the line, as what goes around, cums around. They don't usually amount to much more than a big disappointment with too many mopes and a rigid agenda that makes it look more like an assembly line than an all out carnal explosion, but whatever. Personally, I'd rather see three or four top notch guys drill the living hell out of a willing, wanton woman, than a dozen D-listers going through the motions.
Gangland and Gangland Creampie aren't as good anymore since they shoot mostly euro stuff unlike there early volumes. Also some of my favorite gangbang series are no more, like the 6 Black Sticks 1 White Trick, Black Attack Gang Bang and the Alone in the Dark serie.
True! Unfortunately today, there are less and less gangbangs and most of them are let downs. I mean most people want a raunchy and high energy gangbang, not just slow & non-energetic dozen guys screwing a nearly unresponsive chick! My past and recent favourites are some in the Black Pipe Layers series. Also, some in the Leather and Lace gangbang series. Gangbang 5 and 6, of course. I could keep on going... Bottom line is that it's hard to get that unique combination of: 1) having good male pounders 2) having an attractive or a cute chick who is totally into it and has basically next to no limits (DP, anals, DAP facials etc..,eg; Sophie Dee, Hillary Scott, Kelly Wells etc..) 3)having an original story line or build up (let's face it, some are really lame..., but even just a straight and good pre-interview is simple but always good.) 4) having high volcanic energy!!!!! 5) having good camera angles and shots (let's face it, it can get confusing and boring watching a badly filmed gangbang... If someone can get all of these ingredients together again, I'll be back to purchasing gangbangs! Are there any directors and producers listening out there? Looking forward to new stuff, even though I've been 'had' many times...still hoping!!! Cheers!
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Taylor Von Bailey Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 7:18PM
It certainly seems endangered to me. I can't remember a good gangbang for a while with a top notch girl like the way they used to do. I mean some of the girls who do gangbangs may be considered top notch by some - just not by me. They definitely do seem rarer now and I think it'd be fair to classify them as an endangered species. Not enough money I guess? There definitely isn't a shortage of sexy porn girls willing to do them. There's always beautiful new girls doing shocking new things but now it seems at a slower rate than ever. I think the gangbang will never again be as grand as it has been in the past. I wish that Anabolic/Diabolic would get back to business the way they used to but I don't see that happening. At least the blowbang is still strong!
Gangbangs are my favorite! But I really like gangbangs from the early 90's or the 80's. I hate this modern day version where the guys just screw the girl like robots, one after another, and high five each other, crack jokes, never kiss or caress her, et cetera. I loved this one scene (must have been the 80's) where four guys are giving it to this woman... but they're definitely all into her. They caress, kiss, stroke, and give the impression that fucking her is a beloved opportunity, not an impersonal duty.
I would love to see a resurgence of the Starbangers series, provided that they kept the flavor of the old one. My faves were the one with Savannah (just b/c it was her), the one with Dominique Simone, and the one with Samantha Strong. The good ole days...
One reason I mentioned the Starbangers concept specifically was that the series allowed you to see several starlets doing gangbangs who for the most part didn't do or hadn't done that sort of thing. It's no big deal to see Aurora Snow in a gangbang, but Charmane Starr would be another matter entirely. And if you chose the performer properly -- Charmane may be a bad example here -- you could get A-list talent who'd do one gangbang with a high level of enthusiasm and excitement because it would be one-off or a rarity for her. More erotic locations would help, too -- I think we've all seen enough construction-site, warehouse, and garage gangbangs, and also enough where everyone is naked and the scene begins with five guys walking up and sticking their dicks in the girls' faces.
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Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 3:01PM
Gangbangs are boring to me. I'll watch one if it's a girl I like just to see if she can make it hot. But overall they bore the living hell out of me. Watching a bunch of guys, some of them with limp dicks, taking turn after turn at the various holes just isn't attractive as far as I'm concerned. I like a DP or foursome now and then, but more than that just doesn't interest me. My preference is a single guy and girl doing it hot and nasty like Rocco or Manuel do with toe sucking, kissing, anal, and lots of sweaty heat that looks like they are really enjoying themselves.
I'm sad that there isn't any good gang bang series around anymore. I love seeing a girl taking on more cock than she can handle. I'm still checking out gang bang titles for airtight skiing shots, and am coming up empty. I wish some of the more successful companies would start up a new gang bang franchise where each girl has to take on at least 5 guys.
For obvious reasons, i have to disagree with this thread (don't kill me eheheh); there is plenty of gangbang material out there, it's just about looking into the right places. Sounds like a paradox, but big decent gangbangs are too costly for big producers, nowdays, than they are for independent ones.
Don't kill me...ha,ha,ha..but I don't agree with the fact that there is good mainstream material out. Perhaps, there are plenty small productions out there, but most of us don't know about this. (perhaps, you can steer us in the right direction) As for your comment about gangbangs being costly, I would not know about this except that for my taste I much prefer having 3 to 4 guys and chick really going at it for a shorter but more intense session than a drawn out scene with 20 guys. (I guess that's where most of the expenses go...) By the way, I'm not knocking all LONG scenes because I have not seen all of them...it's just that given the choice I would choose watching a short really hard intense one...I'm sure that yours is excellent though, I must check it out! You got my imagination and curiosity going. cheers!
I too am quite dismayed at Gangland's (Devils) continued use of European talent, I think it is easier to fine euro gangbang material than it is to find US stuff. It would seem that Gangbang Girl/Gangbang Initiations series have slowed to a crawl (and their directing could be much better than it has been as of late). One studio that is producing more gangbang titles lately is Private (of all companies), also Combat Zone has put a few titles out in the past year (Little Red Rides the Hood and Nightmare on Black Street). But yes, I would agree that there are less gangbang titles these days. Most of the newer ones are from 3rd tier companies (and are, in general, unwatchable [bad male and female talent, poor camera work, little passion]). The singular new series that I think is good is a european one (I think from a website somewhere) - it is Cum Squad/Piss Squad. The girls are attractive and generally into it and the usual setup is to have the woman in a business dress (which is hot) - the Piss Squad variant is one in which they first gangbang the girl until she is covered in spunk, then they rinse it off with... (hot!) Edited by - RevCo on 2/25/2009 2:48:30 PM
You can't beat a good gangbang every now and then. There are still the odd gems that come along every now and then. Because there are less being made now, you appreciate the one's that do come along more. Last year's Clusterfuck with Kelly 'fuckin' Wells and Adriana Devile was a great surprise with loads of double anal from both girls. And now thanks to Mr Chris Stream's we're getting Debi Diamond in a fantastic full on gangbang scene with double anal. The gangbang isn't dead yet, it's just on a hiatus like most porn stars seem to be these days! Nothing says romance like anal sex.
Another drawback of todays Gangbangs are the use of the male talent. Nowadays everyone seem to be affiliated with certain companies because they produce a lot themselves excluding from doing this kind of work. For instance on the Gangbang girl series it was allmost an allstar line up in their film during the late 90:s and early/mid 2000. Some examples: Peter North, Sean Michaels, Mark Davis, Tyce Bune, Pat Myne, Vince Vouyeur, Erik Everhard, Mr. Marcus, Lexington Steele, Brian Pumper, Brett Rockman, John Strong, Joel Lawrence, Dave Hardman, Kyle Stone etc. Today this would be unheard of an example would be: Manuel Ferrarra, Steve Holmes, John Strong, Erik Everhard, Johnny Sinns, Ramon Nomar, Rocco Reed, Tommy Gunn, Ramon (from monsters of cock), Robert Rosenberg etc. these are just some examples but you understand what I mean. I think that the male talent actually has a role in the demand of a title since these old scenes with all star lineup gives you a qualitymark and a recognintion factor that the audience will like. Of course the biggest factor is the girl but after that I believe that the male casting is very important. I hate those underground gangbangs with amateurs and stuff like that.
gangland, 6 sticks, white boy stomp where better because they had bs little storylines or seduction to them. Now they are just a girl sitting on a counch and a few guys walk over and starting banging.
no one's bothered with plot anymore. Stick a plot in a gangbang (and i mean more than white girl goes into black area - speaking of which i'm bored of interratial sex for the sake of it too), and you've got potential for a great scene.
oh, i didn't read you're comment - obviously we agree. Why are directors so blind? (maybe cos they're not really directors, but rather guys with a camera..)
I wish I could post a link but don't know how. But in any event watched one of my favorite gangbangs, Japaneese style. Erika Sato in Non Stop live Gang Bang, Monmotaro Studios; one of the best of late. Suprising for a Japaneese video. I have made her one of my favorites.
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Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 10:49PM
In europe there is always a story line. Your are right about IR gangbangs, if there was a white girl put in a situation or a storyline behind it, it would be better than a white girl walking into the ghetto with hardly any clothes saying she wants to bang black guys.
I apologise in advance if this post is too male orientated, lol. Rarely have I seen a gang bang where I feel all participants are engaged in the scene, I get the impression at times it's more about the numbers and fulfilling the criteria than the sex, for me you get a cold scene as a result. I don't know about you guys but for me the ideal gang bang is where the female is not satisfied by the one male and needs more cock, gets as much as she needs and gets greedy, she gets what she asks for and wears out at least 4 guys and you can tell they all loved it. Is that too much to ask for? Probably.
I wonder if it is partly a backlash. It seems in the late '90s and early '00s, the envelope was really being pushed with lots of DPP and some sloppy seconds and so on. I think all of that caused a lot of mainstream fans to get homophobic and started pushing those things toward the fringe. I agree with posters talking about a small level of plot. Even if it's just a M/F couple talking about how one of them had a fantasy and now the other was ready to help them fulfill it.
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Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 7:16PM
Everything seems to go in fashions and cycles... I'm sure after a while, gangbangs might come back to being popular in mainstream gonzo. Right now it's t.v. parodies; audiences will tire of that at some point soon... tastes may go the other way.
I like gangbang porn but I have to agree that some of the scenes I've recently seen seem cold and go through the motions. I think a4e2007 has a good hmmm check list to a great gangbang movie.
For me, I'd say at some time they started to become these huge events that turned more into became more hype than anything hot and dirty. 10 guys weren't enough, so soon it was 50, and even fake numbers like 200-500 guys. For a time, I think they just worn themselves out. I think there was a slight return to them a few years ago, but don't really run across that many these days. Like others said, I think they became more about the numbers, over-direction, and time-limits somewhere, and not about a woman getting to thoroughly enjoy herself. Can't recall that last decent one I saw.
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Posted - Oct 3 2009 : 6:31AM
Definitely. Just for example the most renowned and longest running Gangbang Series is Anabolic's Gangbang Girl. They released GBG 1 in 1989. GBG 13 in 1995. Which means 13 in 5 years (roughly), about 3 in each year. GBG 34 was realsed in 2002, which means in the next 8 years they released 21 (1994 to 2002). Roughly 3 in each year. But then the GBG 37 was released in July 2007 and still no more. In the next 7 years (after 2002) it was only 3 of it. Actually Gangbang is the most expensive video in general gonzo. That's why its becoming less and less by days. All the male talents are in contract with different companies, the famous stars don't do gangbangs. All these means that gangbang lovers will be getting less quantity and quality gangbang in future.
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Ignatz Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 3 2012 : 7:06PM
A pricey scene.
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Posted - Apr 3 2012 : 7:11PM
Disagree. The gangland scene with Alissa, and the scene with olga in gangland 72 were the best ones out of the whole series. Sandra, Angel Rivas, and Wiska also have some great scenes. Also Olga Barz and Anita H have great GL scenes too. Edited by - Jedi Master Bates on 4/3/2012 7:12:50 PM
I have never seen a gang bang movie that really turned me on. They all take you so far then fall back to forumula. I could direct (or write) some really hot gang bang scenes, with just say 4 or 5 guys and one or two girls.
^Sorry but that is bullshit. Tube sites don't produce their own stuff so the content has to come from an actual studio. It's just that tube sites steal the content so they don't want to advertise that it's stolen by identifying the studio or site where they got it.
^Not true at all. Believe it or not, there are people that aren't porn performers (true amateurs) that upload movies to tube sites themselves to share them with the world. Hell, there are porn performers that have uploaded homemade videos to tube sites. One of my favorites is one of Andy San Dimas getting fucked while playing a Super Nintendo, uploaded by her own boyfriend (who is also a porn performer).
^How do you know that Andy was all for uploading one of her home made videos? I assume that you asked her and she admited that it was her idea. Otherwise it's stolen material. I don't want to say that there aren't some people that uload their private videos to tube sites because I don't visit them to verify and even if I did. How would I know that the content isn't stolen from a cam show. It's just that if a person buys a camera and shoots porn then the main reason they uplaod the video to the internet is to make money. Otherwise what's the point?
pat362, I think the point may be just for the hell of it and to tease and to get off, what else is there? Not everyone does things just for the sake of a buck.
^^To answer your question, yes, I have asked her about it, and yes, she did say that it was her and her boyfriend's idea. The account actually has a couple videos of the two of them posted. I'd post the link here, but I know this place has a rule against posting tube site links in general, so I'm going to err on the side of caution. I also remember reading about Mia Rose posting a video to a tube site during a time where she wasn't shooting porn very much at all. I could also point you to articles I've read about the amateurs who post their videos online to tube sites, but I'm not about to take the time to go back looking for them since I read most of them years ago. But, basically, it stems from the fact that some tube sites actually work like YouTube in the fact that if you upload content that is highly watched, you can receive a cut of the advertising money that that video generates, so it is a way to make money (not a ton of it, but some).
If it was years ago then that may no longer be true today. I know that Megauplaod had a payback deal with uploaders where they paid a higher amount based on the popularity of the material uploaded but the problem was that they didn't care that the content being uploaded was stolen so paying the uploader for stolen material is illegal. You may be right about amateurs posting on tube sites but there is no money to be made by doing that because the people watching the video don't pay anything to watch the content. Any advertising money the site makes stays with the owners of the site. Why would they share their profits with anyone since the uploader may not even be the owner of the content. Amateurs that shoot porn and want to make money from it usually use clips4sale since they make money doing that.
Super Freak was shot 6 years ago so that was when porn was still a great place to make money. That's no longer the case and that's why you won't see those type of porn videos until it is again.
Posted - Feb 11 2009 : 12:35PM
