I'm asking that because it's my favorite genre and it seems to me that there are fewer and fewer scenes, at least considering the mainstream. What is worse, is that even the sites who are supposed to shoot that kind of stuff, like naughty america, today call "milf" girls who are 25-35 years old (sometimes they are super sexy like Kendra Lust, but she's to young for me to be considered a milf). Yes, there are Veronica Avluv and Lisa Ann, in the last weeks they realesed two scenes of Erica Lauren, but it's becoming an exception to see a real mature woman. A lot of the famous performers seem desappeared, but not because they are retired, but because those sites are not shooting them anymore or very rarely. Where are Deauxma, Nina Hartley, Sexy Vanessa, Janet Mason, Shay Fox, Monique Fuentes, Julia Ann, Kyanna Dior, Darla Crane, Vicky Vette, Vanessa Videl, Racquel Sieb, Amber Lynn, Persia Monir, Magdalene St.Michaels and I could go on? Practically they're shooting something only for their sites. So is there no more interest in mature women?
Lisa Ann is directing and obviously performing herself Many of them work for Pure Mature site There are lots of MILF based sites Lex Steele did a movie called Lex is a Motherfucker based on milfs Mom's Cuckold series is based on Milfs Many 2milfs just work as woman and not just milf but there are many around Veronica Avluv for example, Angela Attison , Bianca Breeze (newcomer) James Deen called Payton Leigh for his next movie , India Summer and Julia Ann work steadily I really can't see any lack of them of course porn as an Industry is losing lots of market and maybe there aren't as much scenes as they were , but I can't see a real lack of milf scenes.
I've mentioned Lisa Ann as an exception indeed. And sure, there are a lot of milf based sites, but usually of milf there's only the term. You open Pure Mature and what you see? Ava Addams and a lot of girls that are even under 30. That's what I was saying. They're simply calling Milf very young girls, but the real deal is becoming much more rare. Edited by - leatherface on 9/20/2013 5:16:45 PM Edited by - leatherface on 9/20/2013 5:17:36 PM
Of course it's slowly disappearing but so is every other type of porn. I'll say it again. When people get their porn for free from Tube and Torrent sites then the people who are/were producing porn for a profit stop making movies because they are losing money instead of making it. Possibly another reason why MILF porn is disappearing faster than other types is that the number of performers was always smaller than for your average porn shoot and these older women aren't as willing as their younger counterparts to gamble with their health.
the fact is that you don't see anymore a lot of stars like Deauxma or Nina Hartley who are still active and they are replaced by so called "milfs" who are actually a lot younger.
The MILF genre is obviously still around but you aren't seeing the MILFs you like or consider MILFs for various reasons. As been pointed out all of porn and the genres have been hit hard over the last few years. Porn sales have dropped and with so mny back to back health scares in the last year there's less work to go around and more performers are hesitant to work at all. Then you have to consider that after awhile people start to grow a bit tired of seeing the same women doing those same sort of roles. Not say they aren't great looking or great prformers but how amny times can a studio like NAUGHTY AMERICA or whoever have to same performers over and over before it just becomes boring? There are performers who seem stuck only doing MILF roles but the performers who have the biggest success are the ones like Lisa Ann or Julia Ann who get steady work in other types of movies. Lastly, I've always thought with MILFs body type is probably more important than actual age and so younger performers can move into MILF roles at a younger age and that's why we see younger MILFs these days.
I know Deauxma is still active but I'm not so sure that Nina still is but both women are nearing GILF territory so a woman in her early 40's who is a MILF in my book is still 15 or so years younger than both women. Let's not even talk about women in their 30's who I consider to be in milf territory are 20 plus years younger than Nina or Deauxma. What do you consider younger than these women?
Deauxma is a fav of mine. She posted here a year or so ago and explained the reason we don't see much of her is that she lives in another state and only flies out to California a few times a year to shoot content for studios. I believe se said she doesn't really have an agent and her husband gets booking for her. She only works with the studios that work with her schedule studio and she enjoys working for. I've personally always thought Deauxma could be a player on par with Julia Ann or the other top MILF performers if she tried to be. But we're seeing even less of Deauxma for reasons I mentioned before...there's considerably less content being shot these days and the health scares keeping many performers away from shooting.
^That and she is very active on her own site. I was a member a few years ago but I was more interested in her older content since most of the more recent stuff appears to be solo and cam stuff. She's part of the Vette nation of sites and most of them do a lot of cam shows. Frankly cam shows is the way to go since most girls can make more in an hour than they could in a week. of course not from me because I can't stand cam content but I seem to be in the minority.
^ I never joined her site but I bought one of her exclusive DVDs from her and plan to buy another. I've never watched a cam show and don't think I'd have any interest in them from what I can tell. I guess I can understand the appeal others may have for them but I don't think it's anything special. But then I've never had the desire to join any pornstar's site. I think it's great that the performers have them and hope they are profitable for them but I'd get bored with watching any one girl for a long stretch.
^ That's great. Nice to see some new stuff from her and great to see it's IR. On her site Deauxma offers IR DVDs and most of her gangbang movies are IR but she done only a few IR shoots for the studios she shoots for. I assumed she likes doing IR but wanted it to be exclusive for her site but is doing more of it for others lately.
^The vast majority of the hardcore stuff on her site is old because she once had a site before joining the Vette Nation network and they were on that site but then her first site sort of disappeared. I'm sure that she still does te odd HC shoot for her site but most of the more recent stuff appears to g/g and solo stuff. I normally avoid solo model sites because almost all of them are bad to unspeakably horrible but at least when you join Deausma's site then you get access to 13 other girls sites for only 25$. You're bound to find a few good scenes worth saving on such a large network.
thanks for the explanation. Anyway, even if I'm a big fan of her I wasn't just speaking of Deauxma (and it's great to see a new scene of her at Score, that is probably the very first site I think of talking of mature stuff) but of a general situation. It's probably true that there is a lot less money that is probably the reason because orgies scenes are even rarer.
^ We're going through an era of porn where there's simply less of everything. I don't think everything will go away completely but there will be less of nearly everything. Between the health scares, free porn on the net, and lower profits for people who produce porn we're just going to see less new stuff. For awhile I thought that performers' individal websites would be the next big thing that doesn't seem to be happening. I think were going to see new stuff shot less often, shot more cheaply and lots of repackaging of older content. The main problem to all this is that the free stuff is becoming more and more easily available and the quality of it is geting better and better. The MILFs who want to shoot can't because there's less stuff being shot and there are lots of MILFs who are scared to shoot until the rapid succession of health scares are sorted out and dealt with.
Part of the reason could be High Def is exposing some of the understandable flaws in their body and are thus reluctant to act or producers reluctant to use them.
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I think more and more men these days prefer to see highly beautiful women that have some "real life" flaws in them. A wrinkle here, a small tummy fold there...... Lisa Ann was the biggest "Milf" of all time (so far), and she had plenty of "real life" flaws in her. I don't think men who love MILF porn want to see a flawless beauty with no signs of age. If that is what he wants he will get porn with someone under 25 or go right down to teen porn. A flawless "Milf" is not really what the market is seeking.. they are looking for sexy hot real world looking women who are of an older age. I don't think people are watching MILF to see a 40 year old who is a ringer for 21... they want a 40 year old who is sexy as hell , loves sex, and looks like she is a hot and beautiful 40 year old who takes care of herself. There should be no fear in casting women with some wrinkles or a tummy roll on them if they are great and sexy performers. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 12/24/2015 12:04:09 AM
it will never disappear. it will just evolve. In a few years, any woman older than 19 will be considered for MILF series.
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The problem with the genre is MILF can be any women over 18. It started out legit, then studios started doing Pigtail MILF's and MILF's under 20. I agree it won't disappear, but the emphasis on the genre has dissipated and quite honestly, letting the genre smolder for a while is the best way to fan the flames once again.
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Do fans of what a MILF should be actually want to buy a title with a 21 year old called one? I think MILF titles with young girls will just end up selling to those girls fans and to people who like young porn. I think they are wasting there time trying to market it to a person who wants to see someone over 35. I guess Bonnie Rottens return feature in a year will be a MIlF title , right? :) Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 12/24/2015 1:40:30 AM
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I think MILF should be women over 32, the same way I see IR as black man, white woman. Truth be told, I think a large population of the teen porn scene are MILF. They get pregnant you and look for that quick cash to season that ass. When I was in my early 20's the only women I knew with stretchmarks were moms, and a lot of today's talents has stretchmarks.
really, I've found it offensive. a woman over 25 (or whatever arbitrary age "porn" considers old) is all of a sudden MILF material, regardless of her actual status as a mother? It's basically saying, in my mind, you are old, or pornstar old. but I think I may not be typical of porn fans either.
As already stated by others, the overall reduction in porn industry work will impact the MILF genre like any other. It's also complicated because people have a variety of positions on what qualifies as a "Milf" in pornography. Personally I dislike the term Milf and would rather the term "Cougar" be used instead since we're often simply talking about the woman's age range, irrespective of whether or not she has children. (but that's my preference) Kendra Lust is an interesting example, given that she's 37(?) but has a body more fit than the majority of 19-20 starlets we see in the industry. When Lisa Ann reached the end of her performing tenure there was growing criticism by a lot of fans that she was beginning to "age badly". Which makes me think that there's a sort of a Goldilocks range for people that wish to see Milf content. Older than 24, but not 40+. Which is disappointing to me, because I think performers like Nina Hartley still bring out A+ material
Everyone seems to have their own personal definition of what a MILF in porn should be. Some people get all caught up in actual age. Some want their MILFs to be actual moms. Some people just like their MILFs to have a certain body type. In porn in general MILF casting has always been more about body type than anything else. I'm fine with that and from the success of the porn MILF it seems most people are too. The majority of "MILF" fans just like seeing the more fuller figure curvier woman in the MILF role. Most casual porn watchers don't know or care about the actual age of the "MILF" performer. It's porn. It's fantasy. The women don't have to be a certain age or actually be a mom because it's acting and make believe. The same is mostly true on the other side of the spectrum with the "Barely legal" genre. Those girls are mostly cast because of body type also. It's fantasy. It's porn tropes. In porn a girl is a "MILF" if she has a full figured body. A girl is "barely legal" if she is thin with smallish breasts and wears certain clothes. A girl is a secretary if she wears a tight skirt, stockings and glasses. "Babysitters" almost always have thin bodies, smallish breasts, wear skirts and flip flops or sneakers. The reason we don't see "older" MILFs that often in porn is because the vast majority of porn watchers don't want to watch "old/er" women having sex. That's a particular fetish. And that particular fetish is more about actual age than looks. The people who need to see "MILFs" with young guys are often disappointed also because there just aren't that many male performers around who can pull off that young guy look. The people who need their MILFs to be actual moms in real life have always just seemed strange to me because why do you need to know that she actually has kids?
there are literally tons of young guys. In Europe they are used quite regularly, in the States if you go on the site sexyjobs you will find literally hundreds if not thousand of teen men who are ready to do that stuff. Anyway, I totally disagree with the "make believe", since it's perfectly possible to do a scene with a lot of sexy women who are in the industry, and they are hot and good looking, and it's true for the guys too. Would you watch a porn scene where instead of a girl there's a man with a mask like in japanese theatre? It's make believe, it's acting. If you think that you would not watch that, well that's exactly the reason I prefer to see the real thing instead of a young girl pretending to be older and a grown up man pretending to be younger. And it's not true that milf porn is about curvy women: huge fan of the genre and personally I can't care less, if I want to see curvier girls I can look for other tags, if I'm looking for milfs the only two things I care are look and age. And I can mention a lot of mature performers who are actually quite skinny.
personally I would forbid the term for those under 40. By the way a lot of so called young guys in the milf scenes are well over 30. How fucked up is this if a girl and a man born in the same year are considered as they have different ages?
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I'm feeling you, however I revised my age limit from 35 to 30 because there really isn't a lot of major studio talent 35 or older. Granted, I'm sure a few females claiming to be 30 are closer to 40, still I'll take any female that potentially have a child near high school age.
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Mainstream US websites like naughtyamerica simply consider that women transition from teen straight to milf(in fact sometimes a girl performs as a teen in one site and as a milf in another). OP should consider the more specialized sites: allover30 mompov 40somethingmag 50plusmilfs mature.nl You should also keep in mind that as you grow older the age of what you consider to be a milf/mature progresses. If in your mid twenties you might've looked at 30-something porn as older woman porn, 20 years later that same website might start to feel like you're robbing the craddle. A 70 year old man doesn't look at a 35 year old woman as mature etc. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 12/26/2015 6:25:55 PM
I really hope it's not disappearing as I think there's a big market for it, but it needs to be done right... I can't stand a lot of the MILF stuff, as it's just so over the top phony garbage... Or if there's a MILF genre, it's something along the lines of fu#king so and so's mom... A bit lame if you ask me... Personally I think if they really want to tap this market, they expand the genre of younger guys picking up older/married women who are "reserved" about cheating and they get coaxed into it and then really enjoy it...
