Is there an European equivalent of Spiegler Girls?

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Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 26 2004 : 5:32PM I mean an erotic content agency that provides all those american directors with top gonzo-talent. I know only Bravo Models in Prague, but nothing at all about Budapest, nothing about Paris and Berlin, places where must be a porn industry infrastructure, too. I realize that porn production in Europe is not concentrated to one place basically like in the US, so there are probabely a few really influential agencies. Asking about Rocco as a talent scout I was rightly pointed out to the importance of agents. Still, it seems to me that generally we give those people behind it all far too little attention. My dream is - frankly - that maybe even an Europea agent will discuss with us here - just like Shylock does...would be nice! Edited by - Mienhagen on Jun 26 2004 [Link]
Shylock Spieglergirls.com "Patron of the Tarts" 2431 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jun 26 2004 : 5:34PM Mienhagen, There are a few agencies in the Czech Republic, Hungary and in the U.K. SHYLOCK "Patron of the Tarts" Spieglergirls.com [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 26 2004 : 5:39PM I know, Shylock. But which ones are important for US-producers? Do they have homepages like you do? Or are they basically working in the underground living from mouth-to-mouth propaganda? Is there an influential person to keep track of (I once read Anita Rinaldi later became an agent, just one example). [Link]
Shylock Spieglergirls.com "Patron of the Tarts" 2431 Posts 3/03	Posted - Jun 26 2004 : 11:22PM Mienhagen wrote: I know, Shylock. But which ones are important for US-producers? Do they have homepages like you do? Or are they basically working in the underground living from mouth-to-mouth propaganda? Is there an influential person to keep track of (I once read Anita Rinaldi later became an agent, just one example). Click to expand Mienhagen, Oldrich Widman from Dream Entertainment in the Czech Republic. He represents/represented Silvia Saint, Monica Sweetheart, Lea DeMae, Daniella Rush, et al. Do a google search. SHYLOCK "Patron of the Tarts" Spieglergirls.com [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 4:51AM This talent list indeed looks like Euro-Spiegler. Still, I cannot find a homepage. You are sure, he still is in the biz? [Link]

Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 8:50AM There are plenty, Bohem and Model Mania in the Czech Republic, Sandy, Bella and lots more in Hungary, but you'll need access to the model pages. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 10:39AM Oh, Sbando, you probaley know them all: Which ones are really influential? Any links you could provide? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 11:33AM I don't really know about the politics of it. It's a strange world and you always have to tread very softly or someone will get offended and things like that. Anyway. the people that run Model Mania and Sandy are incredibly nice and my only real contacts. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 2:12PM Seems to be much more of an underground thing than in the USA in Europe. Like model agencies would be afraid of too many contacts with their girls fans. I wonder what is the reason? I far more like Spieglers offensice, consumer friendly attitude! I mean we are basically the people who really make these girls big... [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 2:14PM Mienhagen wrote: nothing about Paris and Berlin, Click to expand I could add xtracast (closely associated with Magma) for Germany. I wonder if there's a place in France? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 27 2004 : 2:44PM Mienhagen wrote: Seems to be much more of an underground thing than in the USA in Europe. Like model agencies would be afraid of too many contacts with their girls fans. I wonder what is the reason? Click to expand It's not underground at all, it's a regular business so they'll need to know your credentials before you can actually hire a model. It's very professional people, usually. The problem is that there is no star system in Eastern Europe and more than a few models are not public pornstars. If a girl wants to be contacted by fans then she'll create her own website, like Victoria Swinger, Eva, Mya Diamond and others did. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 2:18AM You got me wrong, Sbando, I think. Of course they must be professionals, and of course only serious companies can book those girls, but this should not stop them from being present on the net, from showing their models without much fuss (as Spiegler does). And caring about publicity. I think this would promote more porn star consiousness in Europe. Apart from your place there is not much where to go to get infos on Euro girls. But it should actually be in the interest of every agency to show as much as possible what they do and what they have to offer. With underground I rather meant, they seem to shy away from public light. Like working as adult agent was something shameful...and I always thought Europeans are more open towards sex! Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/28/2004 2:19:44 AM [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 7:08AM The girls communicate with the fans thru boards like this one, websites and e-mails, not through the agencies. This is still unthinkable in the Czech Republic (at least for the moment) but there are plenty of places on the web where you can chat with Hungarian models and industry people, even if you can't speak their language. Viv Thomas added a Models Chat section to his Forum and even my modest guest-book is visited by a few models. I don't see why an agent should encourage a girl to post in places where nobody knows her or gives a damn about her. [Link]
secluded Observer Member 741 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 7:41AM Mienhagen wrote: ... but this should not stop them from being present on the net, from showing their models without much fuss (as Spiegler does). And caring about publicity. I think this would promote more porn star consiousness in Europe. Apart from your place there is not much where to go to get infos on Euro girls. With underground I rather meant, they seem to shy away from public light. Like working as adult agent was something shameful...and I always thought Europeans are more open towards sex! Click to expand Does the "c'est bizarre" here mean that you can read French? Then balabala's articles may help you understand the situation in those countries. In any case, going there would give you a different impressions from the ones you mentioned above. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 7:43AM Sbando, thank you for your answer, but you still got me wrong: I am not talking about the girls communicating, but about their agents! Like Shylock does. Like Shylock does inform us from time to time about who is in his stable again, whom with he visited a porn director, who has recently booked this and that girl of his. This creates traffic and porn fans get pointed to his girls better, thus they will demand directors to shoot his girls etc. Also Shylock/Spiegler Girls keep an open, non restricted very simple peep-version of the portfolio allowing porn fans to get quick info on size matters and who is available for what exactly, who does IR, who does only her boyfriend etc. OK, I dont produce porn, but I still like those info bits - together with the photos of course. I really think Shylock is very fan friendly. And this also helps him get his girls booked. Why are Euro agents hiding their goodies? I dont undertsand that, really not! Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/28/2004 7:45:57 AM [Link]

Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 10:12AM I repeat (3): this happens all the time, but not here or in other American-based boards (what for?). That's the whole point. Do you want the girls to post in the rame ng, so they can be called whores or trash? Why would agents be promoting their models here when their girls can't work in the US (it would be very complicated, at least)? Just have a look at the machomedia forum and you'll see that no one is hiding anything. But, like I said, what you say is partially true. Again, not because it's a word-of-mouth scene, but because there is no star system whatsoever, many girls are only in it for the fast money and they don't want their friends, family, boyfriends to know. The fact that a few Eastern European web sites are unreachable from Hungary and Czech Republic should suggest something. I've also had a few cases of models denying their hardcore past despite all the evidence and others blaiming me bacause their friends had found out. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 1:59PM Dear Sbando, you do a great job and I really dont want to bother you. with mybe too naive a way of thinking about porn productions. There is some misunderstanding...blets forget about and move on... Why would agents be promoting their models here when their girls can't work in the US (it would be very complicated, at least)? Just have a look at the machomedia forum and you'll see that no one is hiding anything. Click to expand Never thought about that, but you are right. Visas probabely keep them away from Spiegler & Co. Too bad. Still, agents might be interested to lure American directors over to shoot in Europe. Just in order to do so they should show their portfolio, I think. Thanks for pointing me to machomedia - will check that straight away! About that Euro-shamfulness I was really not aware off. I always thought Hungarian society was very permissive. And in Czechoslowakia they once produced some really open softcore in deep communist times. I have also been to Hungary a few times, and frankly I never got the impression of a prude society over there... Secluded observer: Yes I read french, of course. Thanks for that link. Will read it later. Tres interessante! Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/28/2004 2:10:22 PM [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 2:11PM People, not only in the US but in Western Europe too, still associate modeling to whoring, when it comes to Czechs and Hungarians (for a reason or not, that's a different story). The majority of men enquiring about the models is made by people with no credentials whatsoever that just want to meet the girls. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 5:07PM I have found something!!! No easy portfolio access here, but a really educating read about the agencies policy and some general Eastern European survey: erotic-models.hu Now, I am really curious what Sbando thinks about is? Does the mentioned move towards Romania and even Ukraina sound realistic to you? Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/28/2004 5:09:28 PM [Link]
Renee Member 765 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jun 28 2004 : 5:39PM Sbando Boy wrote: but because there is no star system whatsoever, many girls are only in it for the fast money and they don't want their friends, family, boyfriends to know. Click to expand Is this one of the reasons why so many of the Eastern European actresses change their names so many times, and often will only use a first name? For instance, there is a dark blond Hungarian actress who was called 'Bernadetta' in an RLD film, 'Jennifer' in a PXP film, and 'Britney' in a Rocco film. All of these movies were shot in the summer of 2003, from the production dates on the DVD's. Using only a first name, and changing it often makes it difficult for a fan to follow an actress' career, but it also makes it difficult for a family member/boyfriend to even find out about the career in the first place. The fact that a few Eastern European web sites are unreachable from Hungary and Czech Republic should suggest something. Click to expand You mean that the owners of the sites don't even want their countrymen(women) to know about these porn careers? Here, I was under the impression that the Czech Republic and Hungary were so sexually liberated. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 4:58AM Sbando, thank you for pointing me to Machomedia again! It is a bit difficult to navigate, if you dont speak Hungarian, but I already found another interesting link to what is apparently Kovis own talent agency. [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 5:27AM Don't get me wrong, Renee. The boyfriends know, in most cases. But there are no "porn careers", generally speaking, for the reasons that I just explained. That's why important sites like 1by-day are not accessible from CZ, to protect the models' privacy. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 5:47AM Sbando Boy wrote: But there are no "porn careers", generally speaking, for the reasons that I just explained. Click to expand Sorry, I dont really get the reasons why there are no porn star careers in Europe from your above posts. You say it is because porn girls privacy has to be defended? Because she herself does not want people to know about it? Right? If it is this than your Eurobabeindex must be a tricky daily balance! In my opinion you do a great work to promote Euro girls and help building up star careers. Edited by - Mienhagen on 6/29/2004 5:48:35 AM [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 6:09AM "Porn careers", like Michelle Wild, for instance, or "let's make some quick $ and buy ourselves an apartment" are two different things, don't you agree? Before Speelie's reviews (two-three years ago) there was nothing like a Eurobabe, with a face next to a name. It's something that happened in this board and in rame thanks to a handful of posters and Steph's constant support. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 6:20AM Sure Michelle Wilde is whole another class, Sbando! But why should the girl making fast $ to buy herself an appartment not be interested in getting a porn starlet at the same time? For once she is known, money will be even faster. Also, appartments cannot be that cheap that she has not to think about her porn career at all. No? [Link]

Frigo Senior Member 1290 Posts 7/02	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 7:15AM Sbando Boy wrote: I don't really know about the politics of it. It's a strange world and you always have to tread very softly or someone will get offended and things like that. Anyway. the people that run Model Mania and Sandy are incredibly nice and my only real contacts. Click to expand do you need anything else than having Sandy as a contact ???? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jun 29 2004 : 10:15AM As you can see things are slightly changing, in Hungary at least. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jul 2 2004 : 3:48PM Frigo, if you raed this and the Nouvel Observateur article pointed to in this tread, you see that even business insiders in Hungary are convinced that the end of Hungary as a porn destination is near. The same sitaution seems to be close in Prague, too. I am reading all this news myself with more and more astonishement...and still wait for US based director shooting in Europe to shed a light into the matter. Also, I still cannot believe all the Hungarian girls I met over the years in Budapest have suddenly moved into a non-permisive society while staying in the same country. But maybe I was just blinded by too much beauty... Edited by - Mienhagen on 7/2/2004 6:21:03 PM [Link]
Zartyr Member 700 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 9 2004 : 9:44AM Mienhagen wrote: [...] end of end of Prague and Budapest as a porn destination [...] Also, I still cannot believe all the Hungarian girls I met over the years in Budapest have suddenly moved into a Click to expand You were in Budapest which is a major (>10^6 inhabitants) city. This is a whole different thing than the rest of countryside/village/smaller-cities (Eastern)Europe. I would not extrapolate the "prototypical" American based on experiences gathered by a trip to the San Francisco Bay City Area. non-permissive society while staying in the same country. But maybe I was just blinded by too much beauty... Click to expand There are other reasons (EU, prolific economy etc.). If the average working-class pub in Vienna (with attendance from German native-speakers) had a good-looking, young waitress you could bet she was student of Slovakian nationality, and if you made Czech and Hungary your back-up option you had a 99.99999% chance of winning, about five years ago. (Overhang of Slovakians, because the Slovakian capital Bratislava is only about 60 km from Vienna). The Czech/Slovak/Hungarian waitresses seem to get replaced by girls of Bulgarian and Romanian nationality during the last years. The consequences for other part-time professions, which bear a certain stigma, should be obvious. If I would search a new "gonzo porn capital" I would skip Bulgaria and Romania, because the .cz/.sk/.hu game will be replayed there in a few years. I would rather go for Ukraine, Belorussia, Russia for the long run and maybe Serbia-Montenegro and FYRMacedonia in the medium run. Edited by - Zartyr on 7/9/2004 9:57:10 AM [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 4:44AM Zartyr wrote: There are other reasons (EU, prolific economy etc.). (...) If I would search a new "gonzo porn capital" I would skip Bulgaria and Romania, because the .cz/.sk/.hu game will be replayed there in a few years. I would rather go for Ukraine, Belorussia, Russia for the long run and maybe Serbia-Montenegro and FYRMacedonia in the medium run. Click to expand Serbian girls would be a good option and nice eye-candy indeed. Ukraina, Belorussia and Russia sound also good, but their situation seems to be still very unstable. A few people aparently shoot in Russia from time to time, but it all seems very far from a new gonzo-capital in Moscow. If at all some Ukrainian girls work in Budapest it seems. Alissa made quite some Euro-porn career. She is from Ukraine. But working agencies over there etc.... I really doubt this will happen soon. Okay, Romania and Bulgaria will be in the EU soon, too. But I doubt their salaries rise that soon. Looking at Sandra Romain and at the large gipsy population in both these countries I cannot immagine there was no porn potential. Edited by - Mienhagen on 7/14/2004 4:44:45 AM [Link]
Zartyr Member 700 Posts 7/04	Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 12:52PM Mienhagen wrote: [...] Russia sound also good, but their situation seems to be still very unstable. A few people aparently shoot in Russia from time to time, but it all seems very far from a new gonzo-capital in Moscow. Click to expand Friends, who did (non-adult)business in Russia told me, that they preferred being in St. Petersburgh, not only for being a nicer city in regards of architecture, infrastructure and security compared to Moscow, but St. Petersburgh also has a certain european touch to it. [Link]
von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 3:45PM spiegler could take over ALL of europe in a matter of hours. he´s a pacesetter to say the least. lates, Von S. Edited by - von_swine on 7/14/2004 3:45:51 PM [Link]
Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02	Posted - Jul 14 2004 : 4:18PM Mienhagen wrote: If at all some Ukrainian girls work in Budapest it seems. Alissa made quite some Euro-porn career. She is from Ukraine. But working agencies over there etc.... I really doubt this will happen soon. Click to expand Do former Ukranian porn stars Nicolette and Julia Tchernei still run their casting agency, bringing many of the Ukranian girls to Buda? JAGnLA said: "Definition of old: When you can walk into a small park in Woodland Hills, Ca and see a FREE concert by the same band for whose show you once stood outside for hours to get tickets to." [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:22PM Sbando Boy wrote: Don't get me wrong, Renee. The boyfriends know, in most cases. But there are no "porn careers", generally speaking, for the reasons that I just explained. That's why important sites like 1by-day are not accessible from CZ, to protect the models' privacy. Click to expand Sbando, I can see the point, why czech or slovakian models try to hide a little bit. Czech people are good, but they have some kind of character to critisize doing this kind of work or. They are definitely not puritans but its their naturality to hide or be ashamed of things that they dont want others to know about. Due to this, they tend to critize other people who dont hide this, they even tend to critize poeple doing this kind of job. Cheers from Czech Republic. Mr. Peter. Added: Some time ago, here was a survey about sex in the Czech bedrooms. There was also a question about having anal sex. Despite the survey was anonymous only under 10% of respondents confessed that they are having anal sex. But actual true is that this number is much more higher. This is only an example of Czech outlook :-). Edited by - Mr. Peter on 7/15/2004 12:22:11 PM Edited by - Mr. Peter on 7/15/2004 12:27:43 PM Edited by - Mr. Peter on 7/15/2004 12:28:20 PM [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:35PM Probably things will change in the Czech Republic too. Walter, Nikoletta is fine. I brought her oranges the other day. [Link]

Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:38PM That's why important sites like 1by-day are not accessible from CZ, to protect the models' privacy Click to expand How does that work? 1by-day blocks all IP adresses coming from the Czech Republic? [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:39PM Sbando Boy wrote: Probably things will change in the Czech Republic too. Click to expand Maybe. I hope. It needs a lot of promotion. Bohem agency does a great job. [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:42PM Ramsey wrote: That's why important sites like 1by-day are not accessible from CZ, to protect the models' privacy Click to expand How does that work? 1by-day blocks all IP adresses coming from the Czech Republic? Click to expand And Hungary too. The same goes for a few other sites (like zuzana.tv, but one understands why). [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:48PM Sbando Boy wrote: Ramsey wrote: That's why important sites like 1by-day are not accessible from CZ, to protect the models' privacy Click to expand How does that work? 1by-day blocks all IP adresses coming from the Czech Republic? Click to expand And Hungary too. The same goes for a few other sites (like zuzana.tv, but one understands why). Click to expand zuzana.tv is not blocked at all, but it has only dummy content, only a list of adv. banners. verified now. [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 12:53PM It is blocked in Hungary, being the girls Hungarian. "Dummy content", it depends on your bank account. [Link]
Speelie Senior Member Fort Collins, CO 1191 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 1:22PM I missed this topic previously, but I want to thank Sbando for mentioning my reviews. I'm glad I had a part in getting the ball rolling, in the case of IDing actresses. They themselves may not want notoriety, but a porn fan knows who he or she wants to see onscreen. It is nice that these days there's a Eurobabe Index to look up actresses, and that producers and directors check in at ADT to see which girls the fans desire to be cast (and when a name is suggested, we know who she is!). I haven't talked about this in a while, so I'll just mention quickly for newbies to ADT that about 5 years ago, it used to really bother me to see reviews, mainly on commerical websites (that is, ones that sell VHS and now DVDs) that said a movie was "full of girls you've never seen before and will never see again...." Well, I often noticed them again, and decided to keep some track of this. (A continent away, Walter Burns was doing the same thing, as we all found out later ) Sbando and others expanded upon my efforts, and now even professionals (in one case, a professiAnal)in the porn biz make use of current resources. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 4:54PM Sbando Boy: Are all DDF sites blocked from Hungary and the Czech Republic or just 1byday? How about HotLegsAndFeet.com? [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 5:10PM All of the them, I think. [Link]
Renee Member 765 Posts 8/03	Posted - Jul 15 2004 : 9:39PM Mr. Peter wrote: I can see the point, why czech or slovakian models try to hide a little bit. Czech people are good, but they have some kind of character to critisize doing this kind of work or. They are definitely not puritans but its their naturality to hide or be ashamed of things that they dont want others to know about. Due to this, they tend to critize other people who dont hide this, they even tend to critize poeple doing this kind of job. Click to expand But wait, we Americans have the impression that people in the Czech Republic and Hungary are so open-minded when it comes to porn. Well, that's the impression we get when we watch porn movies shot there. Is the above quote from you one of the reasons that there are very few actresses, or even actors, from Eastern Europe who post on ADT? [Link]
Mr. Peter Member 423 Posts 11/03	Posted - Jul 16 2004 : 11:45AM Renee wrote: Mr. Peter wrote: I can see the point, why czech or slovakian models try to hide a little bit. Czech people are good, but they have some kind of character to critisize doing this kind of work or. They are definitely not puritans but its their naturality to hide or be ashamed of things that they dont want others to know about. Due to this, they tend to critize other people who dont hide this, they even tend to critize poeple doing this kind of job. Click to expand But wait, we Americans have the impression that people in the Czech Republic and Hungary are so open-minded when it comes to porn. Well, that's the impression we get when we watch porn movies shot there. Is the above quote from you one of the reasons that there are very few actresses, or even actors, from Eastern Europe who post on ADT? Click to expand Hi Renee, Yes, Czech ppl are very open minded, they always have been, definitely, but this is quite other thing. They try to keep this things in privacy, u know, even more when it comes to their friends, relatives, neighboors etc. They may not feel guilty about what they do, but they rather are a bit afraid that other ppl when they will know they will judge them for this. Their afraids are however with reason. This is Czech mentality. They are open minded even when it comes to sex, but they simply try to protect a bit their privacy. One girl which I know very good also made this kind of stuff and she really didnt want neighbourhood to know her job. The thing you said about not being in contact with fans. I mean most of them dont care about career, they make porn or modelling for money, fun, realising their sex fantasies, etc.. I mean they dont need to be in contact with fans. Its simple. And when it comes to internet, I think also the have a limited access to inet, yes they probably can when they want, but they dont care. U know laso too little time to do many things. [Link]
von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04	Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 11:36AM was just in Buda for three weeks shooting for EE and S Holmes and gotta say that the scene there is very unorganized. Prague was much more consistent and had more girls available who were ready to work. seems that of the girls remaining in Buda, most would rather do escort service or high end tricking than porno. the agents in Buda are pretty lame too. Prague definately outclasses Buda thesedays. lates, Von S. [Link]
Sbando Boy Euro Babe Magnet 1839 Posts 6/01	Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 11:40AM von_swine wrote: was just in Buda for three weeks shooting for EE and S Holmes and gotta say that the scene there is very unorganized. Prague was much more consistent and had more girls available who were ready to work. seems that of the girls remaining in Buda, most would rather do escort service or high end tricking than porno. the agents in Buda are pretty lame too. Prague definately outclasses Buda thesedays. lates, Von S. Click to expand That is probably why US directors are always shooting the same 6/7 Czech girls over and over again. [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Oct 1 2004 : 8:14AM Recently read about Russian escort agencies sending their girls to Prague and Budapest to work in porn productions. One big Russian player in this business seems to be Dosud-Moscow or something similar. This could bring a lot of new girls to Prague. Anybody ever heard about such connections? [Link]
camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03	Posted - Oct 1 2004 : 8:24AM Mienhagen wrote: Recently read about Russian escort agencies sending their girls to Prague and Budapest to work in porn productions. One big Russian player in this business seems to be Dosud-Moscow or something similar. This could bring a lot of new girls to Prague. Anybody ever heard about such connections? Click to expand Do you mean Dosug-Moscow? Looks like our beloved old friend Shameless Link [Link]
Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04	Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 3:02AM I doubt. The sites I found on the net than looked completely different. Edited by - Mienhagen on 10/3/2004 3:37:30 AM [Link]
camaban Member Germany 437 Posts 8/03	Posted - Oct 3 2004 : 7:14AM Mienhagen wrote: I doubt. The sites I found on the net than looked completely different. Edited by - Mienhagen on 10/3/2004 3:37:30 AM Click to expand Can you please give us a link? [Link]