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suikakajyu
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9/19
Posted - Sep 16 2019 : 9:48PM
[b[TLDR: Is what I'm into actually femdom? If not, is there a more apt term? Do you know of any paysites/scenes/releases that would suit my tastes?

I'll start out by saying that the majority of femdom porn produced in the West is not to my tastes at all. In fact, if I may be permitted a gross over-simplification, the norm for Western porn takes one of two forms: 1) sexual intercourse, where the woman is dominated, b) the male is dominated, but while there are definite sexual overtones, there is usually little, if any intercourse. I'm not dunking on the latter type of femdom, but it's just that neither of these currents appeals to me.

Japanese porn, on the other hand, tends to be a lot more open to combining female domination with sexual intercourse. Typically, scenarios of this type will feature a sexually-aggressive woman who will bind, or otherwise subdue & dominate, a guy(s), but sex is still in the transaction-the difference being that she is the one aggressively pursuing said sex, and humiliating/dominating her partner along the way (e.g., some of GARCON's 'gal' releases, featuring the likes of Ayaka Tomoda, Mai Takizawa, & Hikari).

Don't get me wrong: it's still a small niche compared to other genres, but it's out there (perhaps less so in recent years, where things have trended back towards more vanilla formats). More importantly, 'mainstream' Japanese porn stars often appear in these sorts of scenes/releases, whereas, to the extent that such material is produced at all in the West, it is mostly performed by amateurs, and that doesn't interest me either (I am very picky about looks, so I tend to follow a relatively small number of models whom I find attractive).

Of course there are exceptions. Once upon a time, Evil Angel in particular used to produce a great series of 'Strap Attack'/'Pegged' videos that conformed to my predilections quite closely. There were also some scenes from 'Ball Busting Porn Stars'-I'm thinking here of the ones by Asa Akira & Scarlett Pain-that fit the bill. So too the 'Femdom Ass Worship' scene with Skin Diamond. Alex Coal has done some good stuff for Primal Fetish. Other than that... there have been a smattering of handjob scenes where the performer incorporated a lot of teasing/humiliation, but still exhibited sexual enthusiasm.

I also like some of the cuckold stuff... or, well, maybe really only one scene: Proxy Paige for Cum Eating Cuckolds. It's the only one I've seen where the female model actually performs sex acts with the cuckold (though there's a cuckold scene where Raven Bay comes close).

Apologies for the long post, but I feel that my tastes probably require some explanation. Perhaps that's because what I'm into would not really be considered 'femdom'? I'd be interested to hear opinions on this, and would be very grateful if anyone could direct me to material they think would match what I'm looking for.

suikakajyu
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27 Posts
9/19
Posted - Sep 20 2019 : 7:39AM
In the hopes that this thread will gather some momentum, I'll start documenting scenes that conform the criteria I outlined in the initial post as I find them.

Nikky Thorne in a scene for 21Sextury called 'Femdom Power.'

Flinch
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230 Posts
8/11
Posted - Oct 3 2019 : 7:35PM
You should check out Divine Bitches. You'll find plenty of scenes that will suit your tastes.
suikakajyu
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27 Posts
9/19
Posted - Oct 3 2019 : 8:53PM
I don't find the girls here attractive at all, but thanks for the suggestion. :)
Zingerbrook
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Posted - Oct 3 2019 : 10:16PM
I think you were very clear in your explanation, but I'm struggling to find good examples. Outside of cuckold scenes, you could go down the road of ruined orgasms, where some of those include fucking. But really the genre is a hodgepodge with much of it on clip sites like Clips4sale.

I have a theory...that could be way off. It's not just lack of demand, it's culture. It's hard to find talent to adequately pull off such scenes. The mindset isn't there for many people. It's like a foreign concept. (I know, I've tried.) Not that there aren't performers who could do it well, there just aren't a ton.

 
suikakajyu
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27 Posts
9/19
Posted - Oct 10 2019 : 7:40AM
I definitely think it's about culture and conceptualisations. After all, there is quite a bit of femdom porn out there, but over time the varieties of femdom porn seem to have become more homogenised. I would speculate that this is due to the majority of the audience and producers both not being able to conceive of how a woman could be the one assuming the dominant role if she is also being penetrated, since the penetration is associated with dominance and power, while being penetrated is associated with the reverse. Whether this also affects the talent... Perhaps. I know that the majority of performers I have seen attempt this have pulled it off well, but that's probably because I am operating with a selection bias.
Zingerbrook
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Posted - Oct 10 2019 : 9:46PM
^ There are definitely performers who pull it off excellently. If a performer is of the mindset to attempt those kinds of scenes, then they're already 75% of the way there, in my opinion. And this: <i>"...due to the majority of the audience and producers both not being able to conceive of how a woman could be the one assuming the dominant role if she is also being penetrated, since the penetration is associated with dominance and power, while being penetrated is associated with the reverse..."</i> yes, absolutely.
Dirtyhabit
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145 Posts
8/09
Posted - Oct 11 2019 : 5:27AM
Audrey Hollander has a few scenes like this, there's one where a guy is tied up and she "forces" him to fuck her ass while she mocks him the whole ride.
thehampster1234
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12/12
Posted - Oct 12 2019 : 1:12PM
How about this Allesandra Snow scene for Mylfdom.com?

https://www.mylfdom.com/movies/1637/the-punishment-tits-the-crime

pat362
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Posted - Oct 12 2019 : 1:36PM
I apologize but I'm still unclear on the type of femdom that you are looking for so can you answer the below question that best describe what you are interested in.

1-Are you looking for femdom porn where the woman is dominating a man where she will at some point peg him?

2-Are you looking for femdom porn where the woman is dominating a woman where at some point she will fuck her with a strap-on?

3-Are you looking for femdom porn that's not exactly domination so much as aggressive female/male or female/female sexual relationship?

Zingerbrook
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Posted - Oct 12 2019 : 5:56PM
Looks like our OP has deactivated their account, but I'll take the liberty of responding @pat362, because I think it's a really interesting topic. I think she or he was referring somewhat/sorta to 3 but also criticizing 1 and 2. Femdom "in the west" has been reduced to a limited number of tropes...I'll call them tropes. It's either pegging, maybe a ruined orgasm. Plus, I think the OP was making social commentary. I mean, that femdom is a niche, while male-dominant porn is often just plain old boy-girl porn, is very telling. It's a cultural thing where the very act of fucking is seen as naturally and necessarily dominant on the side of the penetrartor. If you're being penetrated, then naturally you're the submissive one in the equation.

Neither party has to be dominant or submissive. Or---to the OPs point---the person being penetrated can very well be the dominant one. I think the OP is looking for well-performed, fluid scenes where the female is the dominant party throughout, especially scenes that are rough and tough. You see that in MILF porn sometimes, but usually the female is only dominant during the setup, not during sex. Otherwise, all you have usually (not always) is specific niches like pegging or ruined orgasms or the like.

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suikakajyu
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27 Posts
9/19
Posted - Oct 12 2019 : 6:42PM
@Zingerbrook Nope, I'm still here, but you did as good a job-or even better lol-of answering @pat362's questions as I could anyway.

I'm not at all against pegging; in fact, Evil Angel's pegging releases of the somewhat-recent past were probably my first acquaintance with a type of femdom porn that actually worked for me. In those releases, not only is the woman/women pegging & dominating the men, but there is still almost always some amount of penetration going in the opposite direction, and, more importantly, blowjobs and swallowing.

Again, the latter two are often construed as necessarily submissive things on the part of the woman, but I don't think this is the case, and in fact I find it very hot when they are played as the woman actively *taking* something she wants. A good example of this would be Alex Coal's scene with 'Batman' from Primal Fetish, where she plays a succubus who achieves total control over her victims by making them climax. I find this trope infinitely preferable to the prevailing ones where, at most, the woman disinterestedly jerks off the man, or where the orgasm is ruined.

Maybe that means that I am not really a fan of 'real' femdom or something, and that what I'm really after is the third option, where the woman is simply the sexual aggressor, so to speak. This might be the case, and it's certainly something I enjoy, but it's also the case that I quite enjoy pegging, verbal humiliation (the Audrey scene @Dirtyhabit described sounds amazing, even if I'm not the biggest fan of hers from an aesthetic standpoint), and constraint, etc. A great example of this would be the scene Scarlett Pain did for Ball Busting Bitches, where she mocked, derided, and abused the guy throughout the scene, but still blew and swallowed him at the end. What I think I find so hot about this scenario, other than it being a transgression of convention, is the notion that Scarlett's appetite is so ravenous that she is still going to fuck this guy that she despises.

Oh, and on option 2, I really liked the Bitchcraft series back in the day, but nothing I've seen since has really come close. Although my tastes are pretty niche in a lot of regards, I'm afraid that they are anything but when it comes to performers, and it's really only the mainstream, super-pretty performs who do anything for me. So, Sammie Rhodes dominating Hillary Scott? Great. But a lot of the more modern scenes with more 'pro-am' looking girls? No real interest.

The same goes for MILF porn. Not only do I hate the term 'MILF,' but 98% of 'MILF' porn stars/performers don't do a thing for me. I have to say, though, that the scene @thehampster1234 linked to seems like it's totally my thing (apart from the brightly-lit setting, which is another thing I dislike about contemporary porn, but that's a whole other topic), especially given that Allesandra doesn't have the typical MILF look.

Oh, and a bit of an update: I just recently stumbled on Glenn King's 'Maneaters' series, and it's pretty great (except that the finishers are often lacklustre, imo, and the dudes look like typical porn 'studs,' which is yet another thing that I don't like lol). The premise is all about the female talent treating the guys like sex slaves, and there are some particularly hot performances by Raven Bay and Dana Vespoli.

Sorry for the long-winded reply, and thanks to everyone for their contributions and suggestions.

suikakajyu
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27 Posts
9/19
Posted - Jan 9 2020 : 8:25PM
Adding a scene I recently discovered that is well worth checking out:

The beautiful Alexa Aimes in a scene called, well, 'Alexa Aimes,' for Meanworld.com

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