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| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 |  Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 1:35AMWould it be gay if you would never even think about blowing a guy but you would be willing to do it to a SUPER hot shemale. I'm talking so hot that they would fool anyone. I was in Vegas during a porn convention once and this shemale was so hot that I swore I would do anything with her, him, whatever, IT was fucking hot. [Link] |
| Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 2:19AM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 2:31AM [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 2:46AM One is born gay; he/she certainly doesn't learn it or catch it or become it because of any particular sexual action. ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link] |
| Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 2:54AM Listen to GaySatyr - he is wise.[Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 11:23AM Welcome back! OK. So you've been back for a while but I was really starting to miss that. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 11:27AM [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 12:17PM And why is it called a "shemale" and not a "manshe" or a "herhim" or whatever? Who made the rules for this stuff? And where can I get a copy? [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 1:03PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 22 2007 : 3:35PM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 9:39AM What, (not "who", but "what"), is or isn't "gay", is usually a nebulous concept fraught with all kinds of emotion, cultural mischaracterizations, and other non-objective considerations. However..., If you, a male born with, (and presumably still possessing), a dick and a Y chromosome, blow another person, possessor of a real, natural, dick and also carrying the Y chromosome, this constitutes a homosexual act by any measure. No matter how that dick is packaged, presented, dressed, perfumed, hidden, or sprung on you when you least expect it, it is still a dick, on a man. If you go for it because everything else is "SUPER hot", that still doesn't diminish the homosexuality of the act. That doesn't necessarally make you "gay", or a good or bad person, but it does mean that you might be a little better prepared than others to deal with the uncertainties of a prison future, should your life take a turn for the worse. Hope that helps. Smile. BSD [Link] |
| ShiWarrior Senior Member 1170 Posts 8/01 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 9:53AM I do like shemales, but not as much as "females" I've already had the pleasure of doing Wendy Williams and Allanah Starr in real life, and enjoyed every minite of it, do i consider myself gay? I should, but I don't! [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 10:54AM I think all us shemale lovin folk should just put up a disclaimer that says "Yep. I'm gay (since that statement is apparently what you need to make your life complete) now go get a real life". [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 2:10PM My rant is because this comes up over and over and over again -- mostly brought on by products of american [ir]religious-reich upbringing. There are really three inter-dependent concepts here: (1) Ones own psyche; (2) the physical act; and, (3) societal interpretation of both. (1) A person is gay (lesbian) if he (she) is primarily attracted to same gender partners in terms of emotional/sexual relationships, regardless of what sex acts the two partners may or may not have. This, based on all currently available, legitimate, scientific research, appears to be either fully genetic and/or a genetic propensity triggered by environmental factors (meaning chemical and hormonal) PRIOR to birth. The intensity of ones gayness or straightness appears to depend on at least three and possibly as many as eight genetic components. So, while most people are probably truly straight, there are indeed degrees of gayness and bisexuals do exist. And, regardless of fundamentalist religious assertions, one does not ever catch his gayness from a bacteria or virus nor does he learn it from another, be that person a friend or a molester. However, one DOES -- or, at least, should -- learn to accept his own sexuality and identity. (I know of one gay couple who have been together over forty years who do not sleep together and have never had sex with each other or with any other man. One confided in me that he knows the other masturbates -- as does he -- but that he would never dream of intruding on his friend's space. Regardless of their totally Platonic relationship, they are as gay as I am. I think it rather sad; however, they seem perfectly happy with the arrangement.) (2) Homosexual acts -- too numerous to list -- comprise those sex acts involving two (or more) people of the same gender. Jacking off in front of a camera is not overtly homosexual -- it's mono-sexual -- regardless of who's behind the camera. Masturbating another person of the same gender IS a homosexual act, regardless of how that person is dressed or how hot/feminine/masculine he/she looks. The same is true of any more intimate sexual act performed by two people of the same gender, including both oral and anal sex. Sorry, and apologies to O'Henry, but in this case, the clothes do NOT make the woman (or man, as the case may be). (3) Societal acceptance of homosexuality seems to vary tremendously among cultures with most condemning it to a greater or lesser extent. However, even the definitions as to what comprises a homosexual act change with cultural background. For example, in some places in the Southeast Asia, it is perfectly acceptable for young men to bond sexually as long as they mature into heterosexual relationships and marry at a later date. In other words, they are only gay if they are never straight. Within the Hispanic and Latino culture, a man who gets a piece of male ass on the side is mucho macho and scores a few extra points among his peers as long as he is also perceived to be scoring with the ladies at the same time. However, the man performing a blow job on, or getting screwed by, his macho partner is considered a maricón -- a faggot. Most of the European cultures seem not to care as long as their noses are not rubbed in ones sexual acts. Two men making out on the streets of Rome are castigated and quite likely to get arrested; but, short of the, the natives seem to adopt an attitude of, "Why would they? They're crazy, but who cares..." as they shrug their shoulders and turn their thoughts to other things. In the US of A, the story is quite different: two men dressed in underwear or wrapped in towels who accidentally brush shoulders in passing in a crowded men's locker room are immediately accused of being homosexual deviants and molesters of little boys unless they immediately prove otherwise by raping the nearest women -- without touching, or glancing at each other, of course. And heaven forbid that in a porn M-F-M scene, cum from one of the male participants might accidentally splatter on the other male participant -- how tres gai is that? Do you get the idea that men in America are a bit obsessed? All I can add is, "Why the h-e-double-l does it matter, anyway?" and, "Get over it!" ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 4:30PM The question of whether doing a TS is gay or not has little to do with my upbringing. I mean, c'mon.....the chick has a dick. Seems pretty obvious to me that's not "straight." Edited by - lubenluv on 8/23/2007 4:32:59 PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 4:36PM [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 5:35PM A lot of men have gotten involved in a sexual situation with another man at one time or another, especially during puberty. Having experimented doesn't entitle them to the keys to the club. Nor does dropping to your knees and swallowing the cock of a transvestite on a one-time basis mean you are gay. It definitely means you are pretty liberal sexually. And you might discover that you are, indeed, bisexual. Or even gay. But it's no guarantee!  Look at it another way: If you, a str8 male, take it up the ass from a woman wearing a strap-on, does that make you gay? I think not. Now if you start seeking out 6'8" 265# hairy-chested men named 'Bubba' to stuff your poop chute on a regular basis, then I think you need to do some serious soul searching if you're still claiming to be str8. What about the men (and women) in prison who resort to homosexual sex as a form of release while incarcerated? Not all of them are gay, either. The act and the mindset are certainly entangled; but they are not joined at the hip. ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link] |
| zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 6:56PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 23 2007 : 8:31PM [Link] |
| Twizted6 Senior Member Good & Evil is merely a matter of perspective, I perfer to call myself... Determined 1229 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 3:05AM [Link] |
| john thomas Deactivated User 1168 Posts 6/06 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 7:00AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 10:59AM Let's say a guy blows another guy when he's 20 simply because he's curious what it's like or whatever and never does it again. Is he gay because he was open to new or different experiences? People get confused because there is such a thing as bisexuality. A person who likes sex with men and women is neither straight nor gay. They're bi. If they like sex with trannies, I'm not sure what that makes them. But I'm perfectly happy to let people figure out for themselves what they consider themselves to be. What I think doesn't matter. In the end, who gives a shit? Or should I say, why does anyone give a shit? [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 12:43PM ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link] |
| LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 1:12PM But based on societal values, the following rules typically apply: 1) Someone who murdered someone one time, even after serving their sentence, is still labeled a murderer. 2) Someone who fathers/mothers a child one time is still considered a parent. 3) Someone who commits one sex offense is considered a sex offender for life. 4) Someone who used drugs once, but later quits, is NOT labeled a drug user for life. 5) Someone who does does porn once is _usually_ labeled a porn star for life (although often with the "former" prefaced to that title). 6) Someone who makes even a SINGLE racial comment is labeled a racist forever. So if guy blows another guy, even once.....well, I given the lack of rules governing labels (see above), I can see why they are labeled as gay. Whether they are or not (again, see above) has not relevance to the "public" at large. Ultimately, who the fuck cares what other people think of you for liking shemales. Just don't film your acts or run for public office later. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 24 2007 : 2:11PM Because as someone who feels that I'm closer to bisexual, I find it.......irritating to have someone tell me that I'm something I'm not. I think I know what I like. And I'm pretty sure all those boners I've had for women were pretty genuine. Now maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're not implying that bisexuality is impossible. But it's certainly an argument I've heard a lot of. I think a bisexual knows whether it's possible or not a little better than someone who is straight and just has an opinion.I've never (to my knowledge) been within a city block of a shemale. I've only ever beat off to pictures of them. I noticed politicians aren't supposed to have genitals, a sex drive or any sort of sex life at all, really but I wasn't planning on running for office anyway. I don't really care but I'm starting to get agitated with the argument. Not with you, particularly. Just the argument. If you've never had a dick in your mouth, what do you care? Not you but them. The people who want to make definitive statements about what is and isn't. [Link] |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 7:48AM If your girlfriend confides to you that she once in her youth went to bed with one of her female friends to find out what it was like, would you label her a lesbian? That's whats happening here with guys who do the same, they are labeled as "gay". Would you look your girlfriend in the eyes and tell her she's a lesbian? Her reaction would probably be laughter or a slap on the face. Maybe even if you "just" called her bisexual. I think the hypocrisy is obvious. [Link] |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 10:30AM [Link] |
| lenscap Member everywhere 185 Posts 10/05 | Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 6:08PM [Link] |
| benderset Deactivated User 477 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Aug 28 2007 : 6:19PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 2:25AM [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 4:19AM ~ GaySatyr (ABB) [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 4:34AM |
| Asmodeus Lord of Lust az-mo-day-us 6338 Posts 10/01 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 6:44AM In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with fantasing about shemales - especially if you consider yourself straight. But remember to always practice safe sex if you ever try and make your fantasies come true. And if she also wants to stick it up your ass, make damn sure she's gloved as well. [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 9:24AM Edited by - randomprecision on 8/29/2007 9:24:44 AM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Aug 29 2007 : 11:24AM Jessica Simpson is not a good example for me cuz I DON'T find Jessica Simpson attractive with a pussy, let alone with a dick. I don't find her hot at all. But as to your point, the more I read you in this thread, the more I'm wondering if you are just pulling our leg. "...sucking a "hot chicks" dick." "...I would see her hot female stomach, I would look up and see a gorgeous female face. It would seem like a female dick!!!" A hot chick's dick??? A female dick??? C'mon man. I don't think this has anything to do with gay or straight. BSD [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 1:30AM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 1:49AM [Link] |
| GaySatyr Senior Member Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat! 1684 Posts 10/00 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 2:01AM |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 3:10AM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 3:53AM "Shallow Hal"? You do know that there are six billion people in the world? Every single one of them different. And they are not all programmed to like the same food, the same music, or find the same people "hot". You do know that don't you? Let me say this again, I do not find Jessica Simpson attractive to me. And that says nothing about "flaws" she may or may not have, and it doesn't speak to her "hotness" relative to anyone else. She just doesn't appeal to me. BSD P.S. - Oh yeah, and Gay Satyr didn't say anything about "wanting" Jessica Alba, he didn't say anything about any girl "turning him straight", and he didn't say anything at all about Jessica Simpson. So your attempt to make some sort of connection to all of that, via his post, doesn't work. Edited by - BSD on 8/30/2007 4:15:23 AM [Link] |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 8:00AM [Link] |
| zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 8:26AM Anyhow, I find her as unattractive as I find many men. So that would be a negative connection, there... that a straight guy can be as unattracted to certain women as he is to men. But that doesn't mean I'd want to do any men, or Jessica Simpson... but if I was forced at gun point to get with Jessica Simpson or a normal looking dude... who knows what would happen? I'd just try not to get shot. [Link] |
| Loraine Senior Member 1559 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 9:41AM [Link] |
| zorge Member 278 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 10:01AM [Link] |
| BigMatt Member Sunrise Adams, Queen of Cute. 498 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Aug 30 2007 : 6:10PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 10:21PM WHo made the "my version of good looking" point? It's pretty common knowlege what beauty is. Guys do nothing for me but I could still tell you that Brad Pitt is good looking and Danny Devito isn't. You act like society told us what hot is! Did you need the media to tell you who the hot girl in class was when you were in high school? That argument is so weak, someone I work with says that. Like if T.V. started hyping up Rosanne Barr I would all of the sudden think she was hot. I understand that on a scale of 1 to 10 you might consider Jessica a 7 and I think she's a 10, but you're going to tell me that you would have to have a guy pointed at your head to hook up with her. Let's not get carried away! I think Julia Roberts is SO overrated but she is still way above average. When i say overrated I mean overrated as compared to other women in Hollywood. To say someone would have to threaten my life before I hook up with her is absolutely ridiculous. [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 10:46PM What is so difficult for you to understand? You make some blanket assumption that the whole world feels the same way that you do about about Jessica Simpson, and you try and hold her up as some gold standard for "hotness". Others point out that they don't share your view on Simpson, or they have different tastes. And you don't understand that? Have you ever been in a room with grownups before? Cuz you're going to run into occasions when people see the world differently from you. You might want to get used to it. BSD [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 11:11PM [Link] |
| rich07 Member 64 Posts 5/07 | Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 11:43PM [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Aug 31 2007 : 11:51PM You gotta identify who you are talking to or replying to. "Disgusting"? Who said anything about Simpson being "disgusting"? Not me. I said I don't find her attractive. And you throw the term "supermodel" around like everybody agrees what that is, and everybody agrees that that's good, or always attractive. I don't particularly find most "supermodels" attractive either, cuz I'm not attracted to tall, rail-thin, chicks, who live on cigarettes and coffee to stay freakishly thin, which is what many, if not most, "supermodels" do. If you mean "supermodels" like Cindy Crawford, or Kathy Ireland, or Tyra Banks, who actually bear some resemblance to real women, I get that and find them attractive, but if you mean "supermodels" like Kate Moss or all the models in Italy and France with rib cages showing, asses so tiny that they go inward, and see-through flesh, and who eat a peanut once a month and then puke that up to stay so thin that they are now passing legislation against it, I find those "supermodels" unattractive as well. But all that is neither here nor there. Many people don't salivate over Simpson as you do. Get over it. Reasonable people can find her not to their taste without finding her disgusting, and without needing to be at gunpoint to fuck her, and without having to justify her position on some subjective "hotness" number line. For you, or anybody else. You like her, fine. Others don't, that's fine too. In keeping with the thread topic, find yourself a tranny that looks like Simpson and have a ball. BSD [Link] |
| BSD Senior Member San Diego, CA 2508 Posts 11/03 | Posted - Sep 1 2007 : 12:02AM Dude, you keep coming up with terms like "disgusting", "ugly", "beat", etc... And you seem to fixate on that. I never said, or applied ANY of those to Simpson. I spoke specifically about PERSONAL TASTE. From the very beginning of this discussion. That is subjective, AND it is not required to be defended. You love Simpson, I'm cool with that. Others don't love her, you seem shocked at that and want to ascribe feelings and passions of others about her that no one has articulated. Turn the page, bro. BSD [Link] |
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