If you're going to make these accusations, please name the other Wicked contract stars who had breast augmentation after joining the company.

While you're at it, might as well throw in where you heard that Keri Sable didn't make her own decision on that, because I might have missed it.

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The trend of gonzo is uninhibited and fresh. Features, on the other hand, tend to have established porn stars and are more restrained.

Vivid in the last decade has had all their new stars get implants.

If you look at Keri Sable, it looks like she already had some cosmetic surgery before she came into the buisness. The implants came later, but some just like augmenting. So it may not have been Wicked at all.

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When I have finally secured my position as the leader of the universe, I will have to make tough decisions like whom I will feed to my lovely leopards and cuddly ocean white tips.

Probably I will find another use for the cast of the generic Wicked movie cast than live chicken food, but the cast of "Fresh, Young and Uninhibited" seems to be fine for use as live chicken food.

I won't even feel bad for feeding them to my pets.

I mean at least I don't send them to the veneral disease lottery and let them rot in trailer parks when they have lost their "Fresh, Young and Uninhibited"-status after they have done three scenes.

Me thinks my use of this human material is much more human and moral.
*sigh* What a benevolent tyrant I am gonna be.

Edited by - Zartyr on 10/19/2005 8:39:57 AM

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Wicked's definitely not out of touch with me. I spend my hard earned buck mostly on Wicked stuff.

We can discuss what went wrong at Vivid. Once they were the one and only company in classy porn. Now they are not even close to Wicked and DP.
But the condom policy and the breast enhancements aren't Vivid's problem, just as they are no problem at Wicked and DP.

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I think MASAMUNE's post answered the original question pretty well.

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As a requirement to be able to secure the necessary insurance, they might have been required by the insurance company to use condoms. Not sure about this one though.

Michael

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Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking anyone here. Personally I think story-driven porn is largely pointless considering that the main reason porn exists is to get a guy from point A to point B as quickly as possible but I greatly respect the talent of those involved in making it and I certainly believe that it has a relevant place in porn as a whole.

Anyway, my two cents on the topic is that Wicked is completely in touch with the people who buy and enjoy their product and that's all that really matters isn't it?

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Stormy - Sorry Princess I have it but have not watched it yet.

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I'm German by birth but American porn fan by choice.

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I'm just a simple feature porn fan. But I get the feeling that Vivid's best days are long gone. Am I completely wrong?

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There are many here that enjoys your products including myself.To me it seems like the majority of the writers here are gonzofans.And so be it, nothing wrong with that.But it`s important for me to state that there are in fact readers and writers here that like watching something else than 30 minutes of constant anal pounding or Bakers Dozen.Keep up the good work, Stormy.

Thank you.

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Today's use of condoms in porn often is shot in a way that I get the feeling the director thinks while shooting: "Sorry guys, I know condoms are a turn-off but its the company's policy and we have to deal with it."

Stormy, perhaps you can change this in the next film you direct. Condoms really utilized instead of just used.
The safe sex message would come across better this way too.
Audiences only get a message if they get the feeling that the director really stands behind this message.

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As to the rest, I really like that they chose women over girls and that they look for performers who more often than not can act as well as fuck. As to why I think they're lacking or not using their full potential... as Flash said there's the non-anamorphic transfers (although Polarity was anamorphic so hopefully this is changing) and the extras not being what they used to.

As for the sex, yes, I do think that it lacks a bit. I say that not just comparing it to gonzo porn but also as somebody who's watched quite a few Wicked movies over the last five or ten years. Over the last year or so, Wicked's movies have seemed like they've gotten shorter, and often given me the feeling that there was a lot of pressure to shorten things up. I think MLyons said it best in his Camp Cuddly Pines review when he said "the sex felt very edity, and had the strong sense of having been chopped up significantly. This left most of scenes feeling a little cold and impersonal with not a lot of real heat generated anywhere.". I think I've commented several times that the movies seemed like another ten or fifteen minutes would have really solidified things, both for the sex and the plot. I agree with some of what the Quaze said, and I do agree that the sex is the main point to a porno. At the same time I disagree with him as I think a well done feature will give more substance to the sex as well as making the entire project something much more. With guys like Morgan, Armstrong, Raven, and Stanley as well as lovely ladies Stormy and Devinn Lane there's little doubt that Wicked has one heck of a great roster of feature directors in their stable, but lately it seems like they've pushed the sex to the back burner rather than giving it the attention that the non-sex portions of the movie receive.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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Hmmm. There was something about Second Thoughts that made me pass on picking it up when I saw it first came out, but since it sounds like you're very happy with that one I will definitely check it out. I'll also make sure to check out Private Eyes when it comes out in a couple months.

Constructive feedback is no problem, as I think giving alternates makes one part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Thanks for listening in an attempt to improve your movies.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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I'm predicting disaster, since this surgery is barbaric. In order to insert the implant, the "doctor" either: (1)slices the tissue under the breasts, thereby leaving heinous scars that never really disappear, or (2) temporarily detaches the nipples and then sews them back on, which has to be one of the most disgusting things anyone can voluntarily ask to be done to their own body. Oh yeah, there's one last method. You can insert a rod through the belly button up under the skin all the way into the chest. The implant unfurls out of the rod. Yeah, that sounds like fun. These are all disgusting acts of butchery.

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I have another question on condom use in Wicked films.
In "Just One Look" real life couple Nicole Sheridan/Voodoo plays a married couple on film. Why doesn't Wicked waive the condoms in the case that couples have sex?
The condoms don't bother me at all. I'm just curious.

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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But its not have as bizarre as choking, ATM cum swapping, triple anal and so on.

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I think Wicked is trying to be fair about the condom policy. When I asked if Pat and I could go without in our scenes (we were married)the owner didn't want to open the floodgates of everyone saying "you let them...." Looking back, I can understand that.

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Perhaps I'm wrong. But it seems like Michael Raven, Stormy and Devinn have to struggle with tighter budgets and schedules than the long time Wicked directors Brad Armstrong and Jonathan Morgan. They both seem to have more financial freedom to realize their creative vision than the other Wicked directors.

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Shorter scenes also mean all the dead (boring) areas can get edited out, as it's often difficult to sustain the heat and make it progress smoothly.

Heres a suggestion: If the sex scenes are too be lengthened, try to keep the actors in character still- somehow- by having them allude back to the storyline through dialogue/dirtytalk. Some good examples of this are Teagan/Devon/Evan in "Pirates" and Nicole/Voodoo in "Whats a Girl Gotta Do." This way the sex becomes an integrated part of the storyline instead of feeling out of place and just thrown in for the sake of getting another scene.

I like the condom idea though! I like when a girl rolls it on with her mouth- sexy

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

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