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Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 3:11PM
i dont know if this is know but he refused to work for the site because it was 'a little rapey'.
he was in like every scene for them. it looks like heh took a break and is back banging shyla styles in a non rape way
http://www.jamesdeenblog.com/
pat362
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 3:19PM
I didn't hear anything about it but he shoots for Kink and some of their stuff can also be considered a litle rapey sometimes. I'm not sure what issue he had with pornstar punishment that would make him think it's "too rapey". Inquiring minds want to know how strong the rape implication was for him to pass.
Schmse
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 3:22PM
^^lol
Edited by - schmse on 10/19/2011 3:23:11 PM
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 3:26PM
he mentions kink in the blog. at what point from all the scenes he did for PP did he realise it was a lil rapey? i prefer those scenes, thats what separated it from PLIB.
boozer
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 3:36PM
Is it possible that Billy Banks could be shooting for Pornstar Punishment now. If you Check his & Kagney Linn Karters tweets it appears they shot a scene together a couple of days ago?
 
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 6:27PM
i havent hearrd of him. but if james doesnt want to do the 'rape' scenes then they would need some guys who are into it
Cody McLarge
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 6:48PM
They had Nacho Vidal. Punishment's m favorite Brazzers site.
RedDevil87
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 6:50PM
I agree with him. The rape idea was always stupid. i'd rather just have straight up rough sex.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 6:51PM
its fantasy. no one actually believes they are being raped.
RedDevil87
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 7:02PM
And who said they did? Oh yeah nobody.
I just think it's a bit stupid if people need a rape fantasy to get off. It's much hotter to see girls enjoying it, and showing that they are enjoying it, rather than trying to portray a rape victim.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 8:03PM
Tug3005
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 8:06PM
James Deen Blog
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 19 2011 : 11:06PM
John Corollo
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 12:07AM
From his blog post: "Small differences take something from a uncool rape scene to a fun rough sex scene".
I agree with the dude. But I'm still jealous as hell of him!
crazy8ight
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 1:34AM
so i can understand how he feels. but i see the blog, and i dont think that is "fisting" diamond...cuz it looks like he is just fingering her yes with 4 fingers. granted, that is 3 fingers too many. second... damn diamond looks hot and enjoying herself! so why the problem. i saw him fuck Amy Brookes just recently to the point of rosebud/prolapse mini view and just brushes it back in... what's the difference?
 
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 1:53AM
What has me a little confused is James Deen has all ready done several scenes for Pornstar Punishment, and they all have been the ultra rough, rapish feel PSP is known for.
I want to know why this scene is the one that finally gave him pause when he's never had a problem working for PSP before.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 3:25AM
^ Sometimes you do something, for the money for instance, and then regret it later. It can happen to male performers as well as the female performers.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 8:59AM
'I really think it is the idea of punishing people with sex'
isnt that what bondage is or whatevver? im not into that stuff but im sure ive heard girls say 'ive been a bad girl punish me' and things like that
pat362
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 12:02PM
I don't disagree with your assement but it's not like James only shoots softcore porn. He still regularly shoots for Kink and many of those shoots have certain rapey feel to them.
leatherface
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 6:01PM
Exactly. The difference is that the scenes at kink are normally a lot more rough. Aside that, it's just a fantasy in both the case with consensual partners (i think). James Deen could have some problem with the "punishment" word, but it's exactly the same thing.
Edited by - leatherface on 10/20/2011 6:01:54 PM
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 6:38PM
at the beggining of some of the PP scenes it say this is not real, its a work of fiction and all performers have consensually agreed. if he all of a sudden has a problem then he can stop. people have already got tired of him as seen in the thread dedicated to him.
jizzyjay
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 7:54PM
Just like no one believes these girls like Chastity Lyn, Tweety Valentine,Gi Gi Rivera and Classic star Bunny Bleu was under the age of 18 when they did those little school girls scenes.
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 10:23PM
They didn't start doing that until after that Diamond Foxxx scene he shot. About a month or two after, IIRC.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 20 2011 : 10:52PM
the raylene scene was release more than a month before the diamond foxx scene and it had the warning. same with the monique alexander scene
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Oct 21 2011 : 12:25AM
Remember the difference between shot and released. That scene was shot in March. The two scenes you're talking about were released on May 20th and June 9th.
 
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 21 2011 : 3:57AM
Most of the scenes on Kink that I've seen are rough or BDSM, only a few are rape fantasy scenarios. Pretty clear distinction to me.
leatherface
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Posted - Oct 21 2011 : 9:18AM
bdsm and sadomasochism in general is about punishment.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 21 2011 : 2:26PM
"Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
new fbi definition of rape.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 7:11PM
BDSM and S&M are 'about' many things I would say. Pleasure is pretty central though and I think that's what Deen is saying: the rape scenarios are not about mutual pleasure.

Edited by - BlackSix on 10/24/2011 8:05:57 PM

Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:24PM
there was a scene from years ago with jada fire and james, were she ate his prized cake so in anger he fucks her in the ass. that was before PSP and he didnt have a problem with that. there are many examples of this without consent way before PSP was made
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:27PM
Did you read his post at all? He doesn't have a problem with 'angry' or rough sex. Besides, the scenario you mention is patently absurd, another detail he mentions in his post.
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:36PM
i dont see any mutual consent in the scene
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:52PM
patently absurd
Ashlii
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 8:59PM
'The scene was more coercion based. I was her husband and she cheated on me with my best friend and wanted a divorce but before I would sign the papers I needed to bang her one last time.'
if this is what is going to happen from now on they need to change the name because that isnt punishment
Quorrl
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Posted - Oct 25 2011 : 8:40AM
 
hinlo
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Posted - Dec 9 2011 : 10:33AM
im not into it either
i dont like slapping, spitting, kicking, choking ect.
i dont watch manuel ferrara nacho vidal and rocco
Edited by - hinlo on 12/9/2011 10:34:38 AM
realtip
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Posted - Dec 10 2011 : 11:12AM
The whole point of the matter is that if James Deen doesn't want to do the site, then he just shouldn't do the site. It's his decision. There are several other guys who can easily take his place and would be more than happy to do it.
But at the same time, don't go all over the place accusing people of promoting "rape" just because you don't like the site anymore. It makes him look like a stupid asshole, and not to mention a hypocrite. This is a guy who has made his entire career off slapping girls around in porn scenes. Now, he's suddenly thinks he's the moral vanguard of the porn industry. He's more like another male pornstar turned douchebag.
Ashlii
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Posted - Dec 10 2011 : 2:44PM
he still is doing scenes for them. i dont know when the skin diamond scene was shot but it just came out
Newton Cronkite
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Posted - Dec 11 2011 : 7:12AM
I Aggree with you add Rico Strong to those names.
What is with roughness in every scene.
Newton Cronkite
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Posted - Dec 11 2011 : 7:20AM
Truely sad part is thats what he will be remember as in his career.
He gets paid to beat women on film, he looks like he's really enjoying himself.
I find his scenes very disturbing.
threadman80
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Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 5:24PM
I thought the whole idea of RF is that the woman would be initially against (or reluctant) the act. But once it started, her body would betray her, and she would thoroughly enjoy it. I think that is the part that gets people who enjoy it, off.
I knew a college girl that was in to RF, and that was her deal
Ashlii
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Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 8:47PM
''I am over face slapping... it is all about choking while you makeout!!!!! #pornoromance''
his latest tweet and i think he is serious
whatsatelephonebill
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Posted - Dec 12 2011 : 11:39PM
Everything under the #pornoromance hashtag is a joke, and has been for as long as I've seen it (which is at least a year). Read some of the rest of them and it's pretty obvious.
monkey power
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Posted - Dec 13 2011 : 12:20AM
Maybe his mom called and complained to him about how rapey his scenes were getting lately.
Ashlii
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Posted - Dec 13 2011 : 9:17AM
doesnt he do that anyway?
Edited by - ashlii on 12/13/2011 10:26:32 AM



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