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babby
Senior Member

1283 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 1:50PM
thanks for clearing everthing up jewel, i am so tired of the jewel denyle bashing. why is it that women who have their own business like you and jill kelly get nothing but a good bashing from the male dominated porn press? good for you jewel for fighting back. you go girl.
jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 2:28PM
I'm in a small percentage of women in this business who has stepped into a male role so everyday is a fight and I refuse to go away.
Philipp
New Member

Munich
1 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 2:39PM
This is the reporter who wrote the story. I came into this forum because some misinterpretations regarding my article are starting to concern me.

It strucks me as very strange how many of you express allegations and strong opinions about the story although only very few have actually be able to read it.
I don't think you can base your judgement about the story -- or even worse: about the behaviour of characters in the story -- on a very casually translated summary.
I'm not going to justify the story's accuracy and it is not important whether people like my reporting or not. But what really is important that you understand what is really said about the characters in the story. Especially regarding Larry at PXP, there have been serious misinterpretations:

Larry (BTW, nor anyone else in the story) is NOT portrayed a cold, heartless, fucked-up executive who just fires Jessica. He's rather the guy who, whether he likes it or not, is thrown into the situation to be the one to tell Jessica that she has a stop filming. He doesn't like it but he has to.

Let's look at the details in the text: Larry is introduced as the one who told Jessica. Then the text says: "When he said, that he looked down on his boots", indicating that Larry doesn't feel comfortable at all to tell Jessica because he feels sorry for her. Jessica starts crying and Larry can't stand it -- not because he's this heartless asshole but of course because it makes him sad as well. Because he cares. That's why he murmurs (not complains!) "Always this crying." It's just a little different from what was translated before but it makes a whole lotta difference.
Same goes to what Larry says about HIV. He says the adult industry is a tolerant business. Everybody can try his/her luck here. Then he says he's met in the business manager, academics, immigrants even former criminals and ex-models. Then he says: Only one sort of people is hard to bear for the adult business. People with HIV. This is not Larry's cold opinion, it doesn't indicate that he doesn't like this people. It is a matter of fact statement that at least five other sources confirmed to me. If you contracted the virus, it's getting difficult for you in the business.

A bit later in the story, Larry says how surprised everbody was when Jessica finished her first film, Throat Yoghurt. This quote is a first hint on what Larry later on will state as the reason for PXP or RLD to stop Jessica. The reporter asks: Why couldn't she continue?
Larrys says because she's filmed four movies right after it. She was too fast. The films would have to be stored and the talent would get old.
I don't know whether this is the true reason but this what Larry said and I can tell that he gave this information to the best of his knowledge.

Further on, we learn about Larry's background, a paragraph that portrays him as a family man who pinned photographs of his children on the wall and, of course, has his issues with his daughter having worked as talent. He used to be Sheriff and also a state representative. He doesn't watch the movies that have Jewel in it and that's why he better not go to the bathroom since there (at least when I visited it) lies a copy of Adam Film Work XXX that has a several-page-spread with Jewel.
The paragraph ends with the quote by Larry saying that as talent Jessica was good, uncomplicated and not picky but one could tell from how Larry said it that he would have preferred to talk about agricultural reform in the State of Colorado. Everyone who Larry knows that is true.

I went thru all this in such great detail because Larry is one of the finest men I met during my reporting. He cared a lot about Jessica and showed great compassion.

Everybody who reads whatever else from my story (or its rough interpretation) is wrong.

Apart from that, I am convinced that the story is accurate in its facts (sorry, Steve, that I got your kids' age wrong, somehow it was in my notebook) and even more important, FAIR towards everyone. I invite everyone who feels otherwise to send me an email.

I have very much enjoyed reporting the story and meeting each single person in the valley, especially Jessica, Larry and Steve Holmes, all of whom I owe a lot.

Philipp

STEMCELL
Senior Member

Russia+China are Terror states
1540 Posts
8/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 3:20PM
Philipp,

two hours ago I wrote SZ-Magazin an email and let them know about that thread @ ADT.
I was hoping for a reaction from you, because I´ve read your article exactly as you described.

Sorry, if my inaccurate and vague translation have caused you bad feeelings!

I already had written something that goes into the direction what you now already have posted, i.e. that your report wasn´t in any way biased against the adult biz.

But certainly the sentences where you tell your impression during a porn shot could be interpreted as critical against the industry. To me they only made me thinking that there is quite a difference between how adult movies are discerned or consumed and the reality producing them!
Sometimes porn consumers and watchers forgot to reflect about it, I guess.

Schönen Abend,
W.

Jewel,
sorry if my mistranslation has caused you troubles.
Thats why I wrote the reporter an email to get things clarified and sorted!
+1 for you !!

Edited by - STEMCELL on 1/18/2005 2:14:15 AM

 
jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 3:39PM
Thank you so much for clearing my company and my father's name along with my own reputation. I wouldn't do anything to hurt anyone unless they attacked me or my family first. I have a big heart for this industry and very little tolerance for ignorance. I feel everyone should be ashamed of bashing me without hearing my side first and to think I'd actually hurt Jessica after going out of my way to protect her is absurd.
jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 3:50PM
Ramsey you are always against me you look like a jerk saying what you said about me and I'm damn sick of the BS I get from the idiots who throw in their two cents and don't know shit.
babby
Senior Member

1283 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 4:46PM
jewl as i have said before, im sick of all the jewel denyle bashing. you have every right to be mad as hell at some of these people. here you try and help jessica and then you get bashed without people knowing what they are talking about. i for one am glade you are not taking this BS, and that you are fighting back. good luck jewel.
AC Cream
Deactivated User

1066 Posts
5/04
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 6:52PM
Jewel,

As you said in 1 of your previous posts people that aren't happy with themselves want to see other people brought down. Though if you can look past the people spewing non-sense you can see Steve Holmes and those of us that have a clue came to PXP's defense over this story or false translation of this story(whichever is the truth).

It was great meeting you in Vegas Jewel.

AC Cream

-Kelly-
Senior Member

2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jan 17 2005 : 10:36PM
Jewel is trying to clear the air, speaking from a position of knowledge few of us can claim to have.

Well, earlier I brought up Seymour Butts' phantom condom-only policy as an example of another, in addition to the Jessica Dee hiring, industry response to the HIV outbreak. Luke Ford picked that up and asked Seymour about it. Here is what Adam said in response, originally posted on lukeisback.com:

I am quite sure we discussed this at the last Digital Playground premiere we both attended. You probably had bigger fish to fry at the moment. I have been working with a new product called Safe-Glide ever since the "crisis". I have been active in trying to help the company that produces the product get funded as well as making sure that AIM (Adult Industry Medicine) became aware of the product and involved. I felt this product was as close to a "perfect solution" as I had heard of or seen and helping it get FDA approval and into the hands of the members of this industry would have a far greater impact than any other action I could take. Obviously, I was made aware of the product after I made the public statements.

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Okay. Go back to talking about Jessica Dee now. I just thought it fair that I share that bit since I brought it up earlier.

Edited by - tscfan317 on 1/17/2005 10:42:35 PM

lou sapphire
Member

Take the plan, spin it sideways.
685 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 18 2005 : 2:35AM
Jewel i love that about you!
beefstrokinoff
Member

123 Posts
2/05
Posted - May 10 2005 : 6:35PM
Sorry for using this thread for this question, but the other thread which pointed me to this thread got locked. Anyway, in that thread someone said that Jewel has been banned. I don't know if they were talking about banned from this site, or what. Does anyone know, and if it is from this site, what was the reason? Tks.
Harri Patel
Senior Member

#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele
5110 Posts
3/03
Posted - May 10 2005 : 7:15PM
This was discussed at length two months ago. I'm not going to give you a link to the thread, because doing so would give attention to trolling asswipes that were active in the thread. The gist of the matter is explained in these two posts from the thread:

MLyons said:

Steph later said:
OK? Nothing, as far as I'm aware, has changed. Move along, nothing to see here.
jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 10 2005 : 8:23PM
Jewel's posts don't show her "deactivated".
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 10 2005 : 9:22PM
A rule to live by...

If someone ever tells you "Your loss"...it's not...EVER.

 
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - May 10 2005 : 9:24PM
That's because her member status was replaced with her company name, as are many other people who work in the industry. When a person's actual status changes (like from Member to Sr Member) the Company name still overrides that status on the screen.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 10 2005 : 9:43PM
ridiculously accurate, those words are the same as smelling napalm in the morning when you've been disagreeing with someone.
well, the exception might be if you're broker is a completely tactless prick or something.
respect
Member

200 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 11 2005 : 1:29PM
any news about Jessica Dee?
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - May 31 2005 : 3:28PM
Where can I find the whole German article?
On the SZ-site only the first page is for free.
secluded Observer
Member

741 Posts
11/03
Posted - May 31 2005 : 3:46PM
See "article" link in Stemcell's first post. Works fine for me...
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - May 31 2005 : 4:04PM
Thanks, used it in the first place,
but if I want to read the second page I'm told
"Bitte melden Sie sich an!"
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