I was watching some interesting interviews with Ginger Lynn that was on the DVD 'Ginger Lynn - The Movie'. I like to pick up some classics from time to time and surprisingly I don't think I've seen this, even though she was always my favorite. (I'll be viewing it shortly--I've probably seen all the scenes in comps) She was talking about the 1st time she worked with John Holmes and how big his dick is. After previewing the scene, it made me wonder, from a trivial standpoint, how big was his dick? Watching her give him head, it didn't look as big as legend has it. There are certainly several black performers these days with bigger dicks than that; possibly even some white ones. Which white performer has the biggest woody these days? Are they bigger than Holmes?
Those who knew and worked with John Holmes say that he was at least 12 inches when fully erect back in his prime. I don't know of any white preformers currently working that are that big but there are a few black studs such as Mandingo who are easily as big as Holmes was.
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Posted - Oct 5 2007 : 10:28PM
The best comparison for Holmes would be Jack Napier in terms of length and girth. Holmes rarely got solid wood during his twilight years, and unfortunately, those are the bulk of the productions that have survived through the video age, and now the digital.
Very true, Picman. John Holmes was at his best back in the early 70's before he discovered cocaine and skied downhill at breakneck pace. It is a shame that most of the stuff he did at that time is out of print and will prolly never see the light of day. He banged all the hottest female talent of his time and it is unfortunate that today's porn fans will never see his best work.
There are plenty of well-endowed white preformers. Besides Chris Charming, there is Julian, Jean-Yves LeCastel, Robert Rosenberg, Steve Holmes, Brandon Iron, Scott Nails, Mick Blue and Mark Ashley just to name a few. They may not be as big as John Holmes but they do swing pretty big bats in their own right.
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Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 3:55PM
I read an interview with 70's porno babe Annette Haven. In it she said that Holmes was never completely hard and that it felt like she was getting fucked by a loofa.
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Oct 6 2007 : 4:54PM
That's priceless! I remember the first Johnny Wadd movie I saw. I was probably 15. In the movie, he was dressed like a basketball player, complete with fro and booty shorts. When he dropped trow, it warped my fragile little mind. His size was accentuated by the fact that he was rail thin, but I swear I thought he was no less than 14 inches. I think the performer, Mr. 18 Inches, is a good comparison. Neither get rock solid.
John's claim-to-fame was that he was "there" when porn came of age. His dick was freakishly large, which, as previously noted, was only accentuated by his thin build. I never saw him get a real hard-on. His cum shots were a cross between milking a cow and pulling taffy. Dreadful by today's standards. John Leslie and Jamie Gillis were the standouts of the era. And, they had the ability to act! Ron Jeremy, Joey Silvera and Herschel Savage were also popular. I guess the modern era kicked-in with Peter North. An attractive stud, with a large dick, who shot cumshots the likes of which were never seen before... and he did it over and over. Forget about the acting though :)
Never understood the fascination with John Holmes. He got much better hard ons ealry on in his career (above poster is correct) so if you can find his early early loops, then you see a real erection, which did look bigger against his skinny body and his cumshots were never amazing. I prefer other actors from that Golden Age feature film and peepshow loop era of the 70s - Don Fernando is awesome, Ken Starbuck, Leo Lovemore, Eric Edwards, Alan Marlowe were more interesting to watch in a scene for one reason or another.
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Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 7:59PM
The fascination is that he is a crossover star due to the Wonderland Murders and the inspiration for the classic film "Boogie Night" very few people who know his name have scene his XXX movies.
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Posted - Oct 7 2007 : 11:31PM
Holmes was a household name in the 70s, way before the Wonderland Murders. Today Boogie Nights and movies like Wonderland have revived his name with younger people, but back in the day he was more famous than any female performer. I don't think anyone mistook him for a good actor, as others have said John Leslie, Gillis, Edwards, Silvera, etc were all better.
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:11AM
I am just saying in current day those two films have made him famous. He ended up being quite a tragic figure, emblematic of the porn industry.
Its a shame he got hooked on coke then became a snitch and petty criminal Most of the films I saw w him he couldnt get hard but when he was off coke it looked like he had a Rhino horn in his pants :) The base of it was like 10" AROUND when he was really hard He was a sad wasted talent, much like Bwitney today But he may still be the biggest ever
@BlackSix I agree, for comparison Holmes was worldwide famous back in his days roughly the same way Rocco is today , it's not a comparison of performancies or acting but only how known they are
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:25PM
I think comparing him to Britney is a bad comparison. Most people don't take porn seriously and thus don't really consider the people in it true stars. Britney on the other hand was a hero to young girls and made hundreds of millions for corporations. I think she has been treated very unfairly. She never got to be a kid because she was working at such a young age. The tabloids are just using her. They don't give a fuck about her or her family.
Ramon is probably the closes current match for John Holmes, other talent would include: Nacho Vidal Richard Mann Kohl Mynah Voodoo Rocco Omar ( English Chap ) Shane Jake Steed Lexington Steele
Shane is Diesel, and I doubt that Shane is bigger than Kohl Mynah mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 10/9/2007 8:32:04 AM
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 11:29PM
while huge, Sane Deisel's equipment is exaggerated on the covers of his movies (the photo of his nasty weiner in some white girl's face is manipulated so everything is Impossibly Big) He's not That Big Mandingo, on the other hand........just watch some actual footage of a sexxxy, beautiful young starlet slob on his 12".....there's no mouth that fits Only Lexington Steele and Jack Napier are anywhere near Mr. Mandingo's length and girth
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 4:37AM
I think comparing him to Britney is a bad example because, judging from the pictures I've seen, Britney doesn't have a dick. mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/9/2007 8:33:00 AM
The official measurement for Lex is 11 inches. The girth was also reported but I forget. Dick Rambone was 15 inches. back in the late 80's. He was known to be very stupid and girls(ie. Mellissa Melendez) hated him. His dick was limp too.
Ramon is not known worldwide outside of porn and even many regular porn users don't know who he is. there are very few porn stars known the same way Holmes was even including female pornstars , the only male talent I can think about is Rocco , he's not as huge as Holmes though
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Oct 10 2007 : 2:35PM
I just saw this homemade porn clip with this rail thin goth/emo kid. The kid could be the second coming (no pun) of John Holmes. (he gets equal "wood" too...heh)
[/quote] Ramon is not known worldwide outside of porn and even many regular porn users don't know who he is. there are very few porn stars known the same way Holmes was even including female pornstars , the only male talent I can think about is Rocco , he's not as huge as Holmes though [/quote] I think the comparison is in size not who's more popular.
I worked with Jack Napier, Sean Michaels, mr bigzz, Ramon and Shane Diesel(2 times). ALL are huge but i think Jack's is bigger (i want to work with him again!) but Shane(is real HUGE, no camera tricks) have the thickest and heaviest, i think that cock weight 4 or 5 pounds LOL!! Besos...... Rosario Stone Edited by - Rosario Stone on 10/10/2007 5:44:24 PM
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 10:13PM
IMHO when Holmes was young and skinny his apparatus was unbelievably huge looking. Obviously no bigger than later but it appeared to be a deformed third leg. The first time I saw it my poor little pecker cried. Seems like it was a pool scene and his hair was real short and kinky. He is one the few porn studs that when on screen the lasting impression of the scene wasn't just the chick but of him and his massive schlong as well. A true icon of the 70's