It pains me to write this post. I am a huge Jules Jordan fan, but something must be said. The movies that you make are great, however, the best part about watching your movies are watching you film new girls. I am really disappointed in the cast of your latest movie, "Once You Go Black" How many more times am I going to have to watch Alexa Rae and Sabrine Maui?? If I want to watch Alexa in one of your tapes, Ill watch Flesh Hunter 2. Even if i want to watch her fuck a black guy I can still do that in Flesh Hunter 3. I can watch Sabrine in about 3 of your other movies. Cris Taliana is a cutie, and I know that this is just her 2nd Jules video, and having her get plowed by black guys is fine with me, but how many more of your movies am I going to have to watch with her in it from you? Im sure that some people wanted to watch Melanie Jagger in one of your movies, so that is good that you brought her in. And maybe 1 or 2 people wanted to watch August in this video, not me particularly. I know that Flesh Hunter 1 was a great video that didnt have one bad scene or ugly girl. Krystal, Luna, Tommi, Jenna Haze, Aurora Snow, it was amazing...but in my opinion, and for a suggestion for Ass Worship 4, Flesh Hunter 5, Weapons of Ass Destruction 2, whatever...please no Alexa Rae, Sabrine Maui, Cris Taliana (unless shes doin anal), and I mean I absolutely LOVE Jeanie Rivers, I mean seriously she is fine, but even her, I just want to see new girls from you.
One thing i like about JJ movies is that i know the girls are great because some of them have been in earlier JJ movies. I am one those who don't like fresh new girls in every new movie. So bring on more Sabrine, Chris, Melanie, August and other favs :)
I can never get tired of Alexa Rae so I hope JJ will keep using her. I don't like see fresh girls myself.
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Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 9:34AM
I have mixed feelings on this. I enjoy seeing new talent and fresh faces, but at the same time thoroughly enjoy seeing a hottie coming 'back for more'.
Also, many times the "returnees, if you will" are getting more experienced and have learned how to 'strut their stuff' better and more enticingly.
I'm beginning to like the idea of of JJ series of just girls he hasn't worked with before like Rocco's Initiations that contains scenes similar to Cris' in Flesh Hunter 4. It doesn't have to be put out as regularly as his other movies.
That way, Jules will have a steady influx of girls that he can choose from to shoot for his other series.
Jules could never make enough movies for me starring Aurora Snow, Gauge, Bella, Ashley Blue and countless others. A few newbies mixed in would be cool too.
futureofporn I think I understand where your coming from, but I dissagree with your critisizim. I can understand being dissapointed with a cast, everyone has their own tastes Jules isn't going to please everyone. However JJ has been using girls from his older films for years. Sure he throws in a few fresh faces from time to time to time, but he usually finds experienced talent. So they may have been fresh faces for you, but I assure you they were not for JJ. If you look back on Jules entire catalouge you can see just how many times he has hired the same girls.
Since when is having to see Alexa Rae and Sabrine Maui one more time such a problem?
I would put Ryan Connor in every single Ass Worship from here on out!
Holy shit... even though we don't share exactly the same taste in porn, your website is impressive. I like how you're able to articulate your likes and dislikes to the point where I can at least see why someone would hold that opinion even if I may not hold it.
Don't worry... I love Jules Jordan movies too. I wish he would mix it up some though but I understand why he prefers to shoot with girls he feels comfortable with.
I put a lot of work into that site, it is rewarding to know people find it usefull. Don't get me wrong I have a long list of girls I would love to see JJ shoot, but I think it is unfair to give the man a hard time for casting Alexa one more time.
So, most people here would rather see ANOTHER movie casted with Alexa Rae and Sabrine Maui, even though you can watch them in 10 other Jules movies? Maybe I just dont know enough about the business. Maybe Jules does a scene with Natasha and Cris and Amee, then says, "well I have to put this movie out by the deadline, so Ill just call up Sabrine and Krystal" If I wanna see Gauge, Aurora, Alexa, Sabrine, Krystal, Ryan, Jeanie, I can already do that...I just want something new. There are so many girls out there he hasnt used that I just think its time.
I do see your point and obviously it is a valid one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't this make it Alexa's 4th appearance in a JJ film?
I totally agree with you logic if Jules goes out there and shoots the exact same scene with Alexa, with the same partner with the same angles, and the same positions. Why would I need to see a remake of an older scene. If you ask me though her appearence in Flesh Hunter 2 is nothing like her scene with Lex in the Implarer series. So as long as JJ can keep the scene fresh visual I'm all for more Alexa. I think you have a stronger case with Maui.
I'm so with you when it comes to JJ working with some of the other big names out there, but I imagine contracts, studios and money get in the way.
I voiced a similar sentiment in my Flesh Hunter 4 review, mainly in regards to Krystal Steal's appearance:
"...but for the most part there isn't anything new to her performance; we've seen most of this stuff in the original Flesh Hunter and Trained Teens. "
I also feel the same way about Sabrine Maui and Alexa Rae. I think Cris Taliana has potential but I can't say I'm crazy about seeing her in as many as 10 more videos.
I totally agree. There's definitely a core group of all-stars that I wouldn't mind seeing more of. In addition to Ryan Conner my short-list of Hall of Famers would include Jenna Haze and Adriana Sage. In my opinion, these performers have set themselves apart from the pack with multiple displays of carnal intensity worthy of repeat viewings.
Well, that's the problem, isn't it? We each have our own favorites, and JJ has his. Since he's doing the shooting I guess we get to watch his and hope for happy coincidences.
"Well, that's the problem, isn't it? We each have our own favorites, and JJ has his. Since he's doing the shooting I guess we get to watch his and hope for happy coincidences."
I have to admit when I saw that Jules signed Cris for 10 movies or whatever, my intial thought was "she's hot but do I really want to see her in the next 10 JJ movies in a row?". But I'd much rather see Alexa and Jeannie Rivers, etc than less attractive women thrown in to add a new face. I mean how many porn titles are out there with one or two good looking women and three sub-par faces? A shitload. So, while I'd like to see less repeats, I can't complain too much b/c these women are all hot and turn in solid performances. If you don't like Sabrine Maui or Alexa wait until the next JJ flick or the one after that. It won't kill ya to skip one or two.
I don't mind seeing some the same girls, especially if you like them. I like it mixed up a bit though. I agree, I wouldn't want to see the same girl in 12 consecutive movies. Just mix it up! I don't look at his films thinking I've already seen this girl so the another scene with the same girl is the same. I think the scenes are unique in there own way. The fact that the girl has a different outfit from last time. Maybe there's a theme or different tease scenes. All of this makes it unique for me. I think that's why it's important to be creative in setting up the scene. Maybe try a different theme to spice it up(ie...Jenna winning the Ms Teen pageant, picking Natasha up at the subway station, ect...).
The one area I hope Jules can accomplish in the future is finding different locations for the sex. Having it at the same two locations for every film can get old. I don't care if it's a different house, just something new!
Something to consider... Most of the "new" talent JJ uses are not really new to the industry, but new to a JJ production. I'm not certain everyone really understands how difficult it is to find women that have the comfort and command of their bodies to make these type of films. I don't want to take anything away from JJ, but there is only so much he can do without enthusiastic talent that has mastered their bodies -- when to gape, how to lean at an angle to provide the best shot, etc. Girls brand new to the industry cannot accomplish this, but a talented director like JJ can take someone with experience and dial them up twenty notches.
bjs, I agree with what you said about Cris. I liked her scene in Flesh Hunter 4, but after 10 more movies, I too will get sick of her to some degree. But, I think about it like this: First off, I'll probably skip a few of his titles anyways, and second, you know JJ will have her doing anal sooner or later, so she'll have more of a variety of scenes then. I agree that there are a lot of companies that make movies with 2 hotties, and 3-4 marginal scenes. I think in terms of all around consistency, right now for companies I gotta go with Red Light District. If they do a movie w/6 scenes, usually 4 are great, and the other 2 are just good. I like that about them. They just don't make a "bad" movie.
Scooter, I definitely agree on that. It takes a certain level of performer to do what Jules asks for. I think that people should consider this with jules and cris taliana: She may have been a good performer if she had just started out doing scenes for everyone(not just Jules), but now, I believe in 12-18 months she will be a huge star, due in large part to him.
Finally, I noticed that a lot of people talked about how Jules should use different women in his scenes, but no one put down any names, so I thought I would. Please excuse me if I put down a name of a performer that he has used in the past(I don't know all his titles by heart).
Monica Sweetheart Julie Knight Ashley Long
Those are just 3 that I'd like to see. I'm sure all of you's have your own favorites!
Monica and Ashley would be nice, but you got to account for the foreign factor, sometimes with girls like monica they can only work for months at a time because of work permit laws.
Monica Sweetheart has been in a Jules Jordan movie,...Lex The Impaler 2. Believe me, I'd love to see more of Monica! Get her now, before she signs with someone!
Yeah, I'd like to see Taylor do some fucking(as opposed to FF 2), but I'll settle for this for now. I'd like to see her sandwiched between a couple of monsters like Mandingo and Lex Steele.
MTC! I agree with futureofporn on this one! I did not get Jules Ass Worship 3 and Flash Hunter 3 cause Gauge, Aurora and Ryan Conners was already in the first ones so I felt it was more of the same for my money. I love those girls but if I want to see them again soon all I have to do is pop in the DVD I bought two weeks ago. Jules should provide a time period between release so that porn fans don't get tired of these anal queens.
hey bigdick all respect of course.... wasnt Ass Worship 3 or Flesh Hunters 3 the first time gauge was in a Jules video? personally I could watch these girls all day! To me Jules utilizes the girls differently in each movie. I wish he would have shot shyla and jenna haze a few more times, now look where they are
At this point, I have 5 or 6 jules DVDs, and dont get me wrong, I love them all, but in the past couple of months, nothing has come out since Melissa Milano did anal, has there been anything worth buying because I dont want to see Sabrine or Alexa again. When taylor Rains DP comes out, I may purchase again, but until then or until something good, im out.
FH4 may have been good, but it still fits the mold. Even though he brought in amee donovan and natasha as well as the introduction of cris. but It still had Krystal and Sabrine. And you know, I guess its better to have krystal than brooke balentine or some ugly girl like that, but i still have to disagree with putting sabrine maui in every movie and now putting cris in every movie.
As far as I'm aware Sabrine has been in a total of 4 Jules Jordan movies (not counting the upcoming IR one) two of which were oral only so Im not sure how much they count. But this is why it's pointless arguing about which girls warrent repeated filming. If Sabrine was in all Jules Jordan movies I'd probably buy them all (I'd be even more tempted if it wasnt for that pesky watermark), I don't tend to get bored and I like the variety even if it's the same girl as long as it's a girl I really really like.
call me crazy but, sabrine didnt do anal with another guy besides don fernando until flesh hunters 4, right? In trained teens she didnt do anal at all. I'm glad she finallly did anal for jules in FH4. I think that is good use of talent, if you miss this sceen then you are crazy, the watermark made no diff. to me. jules uses premium talent, this movie would have been thrown out the window if a "lesser" girl was used. Btw, the facial cum blast jules gives sabrine in Trained Teens 2 is worth the price of the dvd alone. Cant wait to see her take some dark meat in once you go black.
I think apart from what has been said already- that everyone has different tastes when it comes to the girls they'd like to watch- it's also very easy to become jaded as a porn consumer. I infer that many of the posters in this forum watch a LOT of porn. If you buy several of the same director's titles- you will probably see a lot of the same preferred, performers of that director.
Alexa was good in FH2 because of the set-up and her outfit which made for a fresh and new scene. How a director presents a girl makes a huge difference to me....regardless of how many times I've seen her before. Sabrine takes a huge facial in TT2 (as hitman mentioned) making for a memorable scene. Cris's debut in FH4 stood out among the others for her enthusiasm and energy.
If you don't like one performer in a DVD the "skip" button is one flick of a finger away. Whether Jules' decision to use Cris in 10 upcoming titles is a bad one, remains to be seen. I never felt that eroticism in porn was dependent on fresh, new talent all of the time. If you start to get tired of seeing the same performers you can always step back for a while or not rent/watch/buy it (as bjs stated). It seems that this is not a likely option for many here.
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Posted - Mar 8 2003 : 1:11AM
