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Genesis
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48 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 7:56PM
Ok, so I just found out some interesting info. Mainly the pornstars need to worry! Do you know that when someone... ANYONE buys pictures of a pornstar off of a content site... they're ID's come along with it? How much bullshit is that! Any psycho can find out where a pornstar lives... steal their identity, etc. I think this is a bunch of BS and I think the porn industry needs to fight against this. Any random person can claim to be an adult webmaster and purchase the content. I think that we need to take a stand. I know that I don't want my identity stolen. I don't want some psycho crazed lunatic knowing where I live. And those of you who use a credit cards as a second form of ID... I would stop. Someone could easily use your credit card to purchase shit simply because there is NO LAW against this!!! Something has to be done!
skronker
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9/02
Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 8:02PM
Something to do with 2257 regs?
Genesis
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48 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 8:15PM
They're saying something about that. But still... think about it... if you were a girl would you want just ANYONE having your personal info? I think it's rediculous. They should have it so that the person who originally shot the content holds the ID's. If something were to come up with that website... the owner of the site should give the government a way to reach the content provider to get the ID info. The problem is that the government could care-a-less if someone stalks a pornstar. They're so against porn that they wont do anything about it unless us porn people raise hell!
baronorca
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Montana
528 Posts
1/01
Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 10:04PM
I can't understand any performer using an ID that has any address other than a PO Box.
And how does a credit card act as a form of ID anyway?
Janitor
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Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 12:48PM
Many companies send your personal information to every reviewer who receives screeners as well. Yes, this is all part of the 2257 regs. I throw out the info without even looking at it.

I'm not sure what you can do other than write to the department of justice who asked for comments regarding the 2257 legal changes.

 
dac
David Aaron Clark

Just another WKW wannabe
574 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 3:42PM
There is a law REQUIRING your IDs be sent out to anyone who is going manufacture & distribute the video, you performed in. It's been around since you were probably in junior high. Federal law, enacted after the Traci Lords scandal. Yeah, it sucks. Are you registered to vote?
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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5/04
Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 4:13PM
The law has been there a long time, DAC, but the rule that also everybody who posts pics on a website has to have all the 2257 paperwork is new. And since everybody with a creditcard can buy a photoset (for less than a DVD) from a content site they also get all that personal information.

It's sad, yes.

Jacco

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Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 4:29PM
as far as i'm aware the new legal requirements are still in limbo. but most are trying to comply as it takes a lot of work/time to do so.
dac
David Aaron Clark

Just another WKW wannabe
574 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 9:34PM
Actually, the law was being enforced exactly this way -- secondary as well as primary producers -- as far back as when I was an editor at GENESIS magazine in 1991 (no relation to the author of this thread).

Since it is a major pain in the ass, and also as Genesis (the performer not the magazine) pointed out quite rightly, dangerous to the performers & certainly in many eyes (my own included) a clear invasion of their privacy, the industry grew lax on this policy, which by the way was negotiated by leading industry lawyers to put a stop to an ongoing series of busts that included, yes, Vivid Video. (Anybody remember VIVID ON TRIAL, with Savannah bound & gag in the courtroom?)

What happened was that everybody just relaxed for a while, since Clinton was busy getting blowjobs & all felt that the heat was turned down.

But Congressional hearings during the first Bush administration claimed that record-keeping by the adult-industry was lax,and that despite having a staff of high-paid porn prosecutors, nobody was busting us for it. Money was set aside for this endeavor.

Then, of course, they noticed the Internet.

As I understand it, this is the point where Congress clarified the wording of 2257, making crystal clear what they demand. Companies such as LFP (the magazines, I mean, you know, the secondary producers) have been erring on the side of safety for ten years. There's not a legit porn magazine around that would publish nude or sex photos without copies of model's IDs and releases. Why should the internet be any different?

Of course, the problem for performers here is that ten years ago (or now) if you shot for a still photographer, he sold it anywhere from one to maybe four or five places, all of which he knew and had strong business relations with. Now, thanks to these syndication houses, the pics, video, etc are sold to pretty much any anonymous buyer whose pays up. It seems pretty obvious this behavior was also a major cause of the collapse of the internet porno boom, as irresponsible "content providers" sell their crap for next to nothing, preferring to make their profit pennies at a time.

It's not unlike the contra trading that was the first sign of sickness in the video economy. But that's for another rant.
jacco wrote:
The law has been there a long time, DAC, but the rule that also everybody who posts pics on a website has to have all the 2257 paperwork is new. And since everybody with a creditcard can buy a photoset (for less than a DVD) from a content site they also get all that personal information.

It's sad, yes.

Jacco
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