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| concave Member 56 Posts 7/14 |  Posted - Jul 12 2016 : 8:46PMAnd what can be done about it?  [Link] |
| metroxxx Member 21 Posts 6/16 | Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 2:56PM I'm new here at Metro, but from what I've seen a good amount of our content has been pirated and used for tube & torrent food. We're working to combat that, but it's a cat & mouse game and almost impossible to recoup damages from these companies. Ultimately it will come down to companies fine tuning products to be hyper-focused on niches that consumers want, and consumers to find it within themselves to pay for that level of quality and specificity. Metro Makes Great Movies.  [Link] |
| Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 3:20PM Saddest part is they are all owned by actual porn companies . Everyone is trying to kill their own industry at times. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/13/2016 3:21:04 PM [Link] |
| shark1 Senior Member 1219 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 6:45PM [Link] |
| Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15 | Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 7:29PM Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 7/13/2016 7:29:39 PM [Link] |
| rhodium Member A cracked polystyrene man 183 Posts 6/11 | Posted - Jul 13 2016 : 9:31PM There are success stories out there even in the current climate. While I don't particularly care for their content, LegalPorno (through their parnership with PornBox) has set a new standard for content access and revenue in the last few years. Instead of paying a flat fee for a companies entire back catalog, members pay the same nominal fee for a handful of scenes of their choosing. This content is assigned value based on the inherent production cost (or time on the shelf), so their producers know instantaneously what is profitable and what is not. Their success is obvious based on their output: multiple 'expensive' scenes (gangbangs, DAPs) every week. The key to the system though is that it's better than pirated content. To thieves, the options are crappy streams or large timely downloads. People are even willing to pay membership fees to file hosts for faster speeds, so the money is out there. But assuming that people (thieves or honest) download files for quality and to insure against their future lack of availability, this requires them to maintain large amounts of disk space which gets costly in itself. With PornBox, everything purchased is right there and streamable at high quality direct - forever. Download is still a choice, but the point is that it's not necessary. There's obviously a euro variable in there that may have an effect, but since no US companies have adopted a similar strategy, the degree can't be known. Anyway - no I don't pirate content, but I understand it, and the market being what it is, it's definitely a lot harder to find anything I like. I'm willing to spend my cash when I find it, but more often than not I'm headed back to the library instead of shelling out any new dollars. Producers need to wake up and take control. Plenty of money still to be made. Adapt or die. [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 1:29AM They have no worry about if a particular (perhaps expensive) scene doesn't make enough money. They can churn out whatever they want and if it makes money, obviously that's great for them, but if it doesn't, they're not sleeping on a park bench next week because they can't make rent. Porn producers who only produce porn don't have that luxury. If they spend a bunch of money on a scene and it doesn't sell, then they're fucked. They won't have money to spend on another scene, and that means they're out of business. There's not a lot of wiggle room when the industry is selling so few scenes/films. That's why a lot of companies aren't willing to take a chance on a scene that costs the kind of money that those LP scenes cost. [Link] |
| Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13 | Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 4:46AM [Link] |
| rhodium Member A cracked polystyrene man 183 Posts 6/11 | Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 8:23PM Tube sites aside, I still believe they have a stronger business model on its own. What you've described sounds more like industry excuse-making and finger-pointing. Self-pity and wailing at the new landscape isn't going to make any money. DVD sales and unlimited membership options aren't either. Capitalism is based on the best ideas winning, and no one needs to sleep on a park bench if they've got one. Bring a better business plan, attract investment, take a shot. [Link] |
| LPee23 All-Star Member Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. 248 Posts 1/15 | Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 9:33PM A few other companies have taken this approach too, for example, needapee.com. Their watermarks are hard to miss, they consist of nearly invisible but slightly opaque alphanumeric string right in the middle of the image. One guy posted once how he pirated some of their videos, and later he received a cease and desist letter from the company's attorney mailed right to his home address. You can bet he didn't pirate any more scenes. This approach actually seems to work. LegalPorno does it in a way that is not obnoxious. If all sites did this, it would seriously stem the tide of new pirated content, and I wouldn't mind the identifiers being out there. If this were adopted across the board, it could significantly boost profits, and go a long way towards turning the industry around back towards the boom years. [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Jul 15 2016 : 12:17AM It may be excuses or finger-pointing, but that doesn't mean it's not true and valid. What's the difference between LP and others? They were willing to break the law, and fuck over everyone else, until they had enough money to launch their "better business plan". [Link] |
| Mass Facialties Deactivated User "Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 3:16AM [Link] |
| metroxxx Member 21 Posts 6/16 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 4:06AM + Metro Makes Great Movies. + [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1736 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 5:40AM Edit: I should perhaps add that by "the usual places" I mean those that make full files available for download, not shitty tube sites. Edited by - shalalin on 7/19/2016 5:45:55 AM [Link] |
| Real Deactivated User 300 Posts 1/16 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 10:02AM If it helps to identify the original crime and the account that belongs to it then that could help a lot in pursuing a legal action. [Link] |
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| RedDevil87 Senior Member 1044 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 4:35PM [Link] |
| lex von v Senior Member 2511 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Jul 19 2016 : 5:29PM a) to my knowledge, the video at LP is prepared on a per-user-bases, which takes some additional server load, as individual files have to be prepared for the user (or they have to be created on-the-fly while downloading). That is some non-standard delivery software that also has to be maintained. b) (and that is probably the main reason): at the software company I;m working, the most pirated versions out there are purchased with stolen credit card numbers. The software gets delivered on-line, and days later the credit card processor revokes the payment. All you have is an email address and a fake physical address, and that license now is put up at all the usual places hours later. Who do you sue? I reckon it;s the same with the porn sites: if they are known to have watermarks/user tracking, some fake credentials are used. [Link] |
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