Just Over 18 #4

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Den Member 911 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 3:54PM Check out TT Boy's rant about critics! VHS Movie Review TT Boy's Rant Den [Link]
BIGmike B-I-G-m-i-k-e 2335 Posts 3/01	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 4:17PM Cool. I haven't seen much of TT Boy, I believe three times(?). So I don't know much about him, but he sure seems to dislike critics/reviewers. You said it accurately though: Remember, TT Boy's last name is boy! judging from those kind words he offers critics. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, but expecting a different result. - Albert Einstein Edited by - BIGmike on 11/9/2002 4:18:18 PM [Link]
Manolo Member South America. 148 Posts 2/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 4:54PM I don't care what TTboy says, as far as I'm concern he is the Best Porn Director of the Year. [Link]
MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 5:11PM Fascinating... :) Mike L. [Link]
Dirty Gweilo Member 18 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 5:42PM Den...Let me state that I'm a fan of your site and a 2 year member. I'll also state that your concise reviews are great when I'm looking for a breakdown of what's being displayed on various pornvids. Even though I'm not into rough sex & choking, I totally disagree with your crusade against it. When I first saw you panning some vid for this, I thought it must have been a truly dispicable scene. Then I saw the sex in question and I shook my head in confusion. The choking, while not a turn on, was very loose and not at all endangering. Later, you included a link on your site stating why you're so against it. According to you, if it's done on video (even lightly), some drunken git might accidentally choke his partner to death. I'm sure glad you're not a member of the mpaa. What I find a bit odd is that you've never made a peep about extreme blowjob tapes like the Gag Factor series. These porno's have guys "throat fucking" women mercilessly until they gag, cry, and puke. These tapes have receive very positive reviews from your site... Sorry if this seems to be an attack on you Den, but I think you should be less reactionary. Look at the various scenes and subtract points (if you must) based on the severity of the actions. Don't just knock it down out of hand. Edited by - Dirty Gweilo on 11/9/2002 5:43:01 PM [Link]

Brandon Iron BrandonIron.com 3832 Posts 3/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 8:43PM Hi Den, I distictly remember you commenting post-SERVICE ANIMALS 10 that you would not "waste your money on any other tape that had Brandon Iron in it." This was because of my brutal treatment of the girls with whom I work. I am in JUST OVER 18 #4. My name is on the box. You are either a liar or a hypocrite. Which is it? Brandon [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 9:19PM Well, with TT Boy's rant, that makes three performer/producers that have included bits in their movies about reviews and reviewers. Jim Holliday and Jill Kelly used to insert comments about reviews and reviewers also. Negative comments. DenverDon [Link]
BIGmike B-I-G-m-i-k-e 2335 Posts 3/01	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 9:41PM Jim Holliday and Jill Kelly used to insert comments about reviews and reviewers also. Negative comments. You know I really like Jim Holliday's work, it's fun and different than most porn. Fun being the key word. Fun is good, good is fun. I haven't seen Just over Eighteen 4 yet, but like all of RLD's discs, I'll probably be buying that. RLD is the one studio that I can actually get all of the releases from without going to the poor house. Seeing is how they're at around 50 releases and I own over half. So in due time I will probably be getting this... The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, but expecting a different result. - Albert Einstein [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 9 2002 : 9:53PM BIGmike, I have enjoyed Jim Holliday's work also. It's just that I noticed in the commentary/narration that Jill and Jim did in between the scenes, they would add the negative comments about reviews and reviewers. DenverDon [Link]
Den Member 911 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 12:22AM Dirty Gweilo's post: Thanks for being a customer. I appreciate it. Not to be funny, but what is 'member of the mpaa.'? Gag Factor series. You are correct on this. It took me awhile to catch on, but please check out my 08/15/2002 review of Gag Factor #9 Review I think it is important to point the 'roughness' out and maybe I can present it a new way. But, I will point it out. Thanks for the post and the constructive criticism. Den [Link]
bagWan New Member 4 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 12:50PM There was an article in the New Yorker about pornography that featured a description of a shoot with TT Boy. Article was by Susan Faludi called Waiting for Wood (94/95??). Faludi commented about how rough he treated the women in the shoot. She used him as an example of what happens when your role in life is to be a piece of wood at the ready, a piece of 'furniture' on the set of a porn shoot. Edited by - bagwan on 11/10/2002 1:16:02 PM [Link]
Markus76 Member Germany 43 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 1:28PM I think it isn´t okay to talk about TT Boy or Brandon Iron so bad. Okay, you don´t like rough Sex but why you make jokes about TT Boy? Your Reviews aren´t perfect every time and nobody tells stories about you. But what is the problem about spanking, gagging or slapping? Mostly the girls know what they do and they get paid very good. And don´t tell me lies. Every man likes it if a girl gets a little slapped and she is on the knees at you. Markus76 [Link]
MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 2:02PM Markus76 wrote: I think it isn´t okay to talk about TT Boy or Brandon Iron so bad. Okay, you don´t like rough Sex but why you make jokes about TT Boy? Your Reviews aren´t perfect every time and nobody tells stories about you. But what is the problem about spanking, gagging or slapping? Mostly the girls know what they do and they get paid very good. And don´t tell me lies. Every man likes it if a girl gets a little slapped and she is on the knees at you. Markus76 Click to expand Well, now wait a minute. CAVR has a right to its opinion just as TT Boy does. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be wise for Den to take the high road here, but the fact is that CAVR is giving equal time to both TT Boy and Brandon Iron and allowing his customers to decide the issue on their own. Den's joke is no worse than TT Boy getting in front of a camera on a mass distributed adult video and saying "Fuck You" to CAVR without any intelligent or constructive argument against CAVR's understandably stated choking and roughness position other than yet more girl slapping. I respect TT Boy. I also greatly respect Brandon Iron, but they have to come to expect this king of negative feedback for what they produce without resorting to public name calling. While Den may be sinking to TT Boy's level a tad, I still think CAVR has a legitimate and well thought out position. Mike L. [Link]
BIGmike B-I-G-m-i-k-e 2335 Posts 3/01	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 2:05PM I think it isn´t okay to talk about TT Boy or Brandon Iron so bad. I, personally, have not seen much of TT Boy to make any real judgements. I know Brandon gets a little pissed at the negative comments he's received... But when you do what they do, and in no way is this meant to be negative, they have to realize that some people aren't gonna like the rough stuff. Granted, some titles are obviously geared towards the rougher side, like Service Animals , but not titles like Just over Eighteen . I love Joey Silvera, I may not like everything he does... I love Red Light District, I may not love everything they do, but... you get the point. I knew going into Service Animals 10 that there'd be rough sex, I just didn't know how rough. But a title like Just over Eighteen , isn't a title you'd expect to see rough sex in. I have not seen Just Over Eighteen 4 , but I'm sure I will. I really think that Brandon is a great performer, a bit too rough sometimes, but always solid when it matters. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, but expecting a different result. - Albert Einstein [Link]
Markus76 Member Germany 43 Posts 8/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 3:19PM Hi again, the Problem is, i haven´t seen any Service Animals because i can´t get the in Germany. I don´t know how hard is Brandon Irons there. But i have seen some Slap Happy Films. There is i think the face-slapping mostly played and not to rough. I think the same problem was with Rough Sex from Anabolic. The Sexscenes were for me normal. It was normal anal, Blowjobs and so on. The only disgusting thing was the real hard slapping and disgrating the woman. This was the point they banned it in America and not for the Sex. But here in Germany you can rent movies you won´t see and i think when you see that you mean TT Boy is a little lamp. I mean Piss, Scat or other things. Markus76 PS: I really hope Red Light holds her standard and i am looking for more good movies from them.m [Link]

dumblonde Senior Member 2352 Posts 7/00	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 3:45PM from Den's review: TT Boy finishes his scene and the camera goes in for a close up and TT Boy looks into the camera and says: ................................................................. This is for the critic out there, one of the critics talking shit about me. F..k you punk. F..k you! You little bitch ass. You a little bitch aren't you. Watch this. Look. Look. Look. C'mere Pulls her by her hair and slaps her face. What you gonna do f..ker. She laughs at TT Boy as David Luger asks her if she liked her birthday present. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh brother. This speaks for itself really, but I thank Den for pointing it out. I certainly will avoid anything with TT (temper tantrum?) Boy's name attached to it. TT (Torch-Tweaked?) Boy has more issues to worry about than reviewers who don't care for his stuff. What does he expect? If he can't take it, he shouldn't dish it out. Especially to smaller, weaker girls that he hires to take his abuse. It makes him look like, well, a little bitch. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 3:59PM DenverDon wrote: Jim Holliday and Jill Kelly used to insert comments about reviews and reviewers also. Negative comments. Click to expand I find this rather amusing as Jim Holliday used to be a critic himself. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 5:39PM LOL flash. I didn't know that Jim Holliday used to be a critic also. DenverDon Edited by - DenverDon on 11/10/2002 5:39:41 PM [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Nov 10 2002 : 8:49PM I believe it was in the 70s that he was a critic but I could be wrong on the years. [Link]
Jeff @ IAFD Webmaster IAFD.COM 931 Posts 6/00	Posted - Nov 22 2002 : 1:08AM Brandon Iron wrote: Hi Den, I distictly remember you commenting post-SERVICE ANIMALS 10 that you would not "waste your money on any other tape that had Brandon Iron in it." This was because of my brutal treatment of the girls with whom I work. I am in JUST OVER 18 #4. My name is on the box. You are either a liar or a hypocrite. Which is it? Brandon Click to expand What if he got the tape as a screener? [Link]
tricia_devereaux Evil Angel DVD Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00	Posted - Nov 22 2002 : 2:56AM Den - mpaa = motion picture association of america Don't worry about the prima donnas. They spend all day telling themselves how good they are. [Link]
Darth-Morpheous Deactivated User 1701 Posts 3/02	Posted - Nov 22 2002 : 4:50AM I agree with you Tricia. They are a bunch of super liberal nuts! They have no understanding of the American people. [Link]
Den Member 911 Posts 9/02	Posted - Nov 23 2002 : 12:27AM tricia_devereaux wrote: Den - mpaa = motion picture association of america Click to expand Thank you Tricia, I didn't know. No, I am not a member of mpaa. I am a member of XRCO and proudly take part in the nominations each year and I vote. Den [Link]
AztecGold11 Member 514 Posts 8/05	Posted - Oct 4 2005 : 1:46AM Perhap certain critics think they are St. George on a Crusade to slay the Wicked Dragon. St. George was at least honest and fair. Edited for personal reasons. Edited by - AztecGold11 on 10/4/2005 9:10:06 AM Edited by - AztecGold11 on 10/4/2005 9:41:22 AM [Link]
m_burlock Member 375 Posts 3/04	Posted - Oct 6 2005 : 7:38PM Markus76 wrote: I think it isn´t okay to talk about TT Boy or Brandon Iron so bad. Okay, you don´t like rough Sex but why you make jokes about TT Boy? Your Reviews aren´t perfect every time and nobody tells stories about you. But what is the problem about spanking, gagging or slapping? Mostly the girls know what they do and they get paid very good. And don´t tell me lies. Every man likes it if a girl gets a little slapped and she is on the knees at you. Markus76 Click to expand The problem about spanking, gagging or slapping is that it's overwhelming the market. That's turning those of us who don't like it into the minority. Which is making it harder and harder to find and purchase a 100% spank, gag, and slap free "movie". A fetish has become a rampaging bully. Also, it's popping up where you'd least expect it. You purchase or rent or get given a screener "movie" expecting/hoping for a good wank fest but as you watch you're rudely suprised by spanking, gagging, or slapping. Violent fetishes such as those used to be limited to speciality "movies". Now they're everywhere, in the majority of the "movies" released today. Fast-forwarding doesn't remove/erase the problem. It interupts the wank fest and spoils the mood for those who don't like it. Some seem (I could be wrong) to assume that porn CAN'T be hardcore porn without spanking, gagging, slapping, choking, hair pulling, and mouth to face spitting etc. That that is what hardcore porn is all about when it's not. And they tell us to go watch "features" or softcore porn if we don't like these things. As if that's what we like. As if either your at one end of the spectrum or the other, no inbetweens. Porn isn't black or white it's a rainbow. And no one colour should overtake the entire or the majority of the spectrum. m_burlock [Link]