I feel a slight rant coming on, but I'm going to hold it down and see what other people think. It seems to me that the bulk of porn available centers on nudity. "Duh" you may be thinking, but to me skin is skin and boobs are boobs. After all, they say that clothes make the man, why not the woman. My point is this: Why are porn studios so hurried to get T&A on screen? All around me I see boxcovers and pictorials where a woman is drop dead gorgeous in a really tight, well fitting, and flattering outfit. But the outfit hardly ever gets any attention.
My chosen example here would be Chasey Lain. When I first saw her on a Vivid boxcover I was totally blown away, but when I saw the film I was totally turned off by her fake boobs, etc. The outfit on the cover wasn't even in the film. It was probably just a promo photo shoot, and by viewing other boxcovers I think that Vivid probably does this a lot.
Am I the only one who thinks that a woman looks better, sexier, and much more attractive with her clothes ON than with them off? Once you have seen a star with her clothes off there really isn't much overall difference visually between one scene and the next except for: A)other stars in the scene, B)the setting, and C)their clothing.
I'm not saying that I don't like nudity by any means, but why not leave the clothes on and keep it interesting for a while.
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DenverDon Benevolent
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Posted - Apr 28 2003 : 1:55PM
darkangel, welcome to the forum.
I did a quick search of topics here in the forum for "clothes". It returned 8 pages of topics, 3 pages in the General Porn Talk, and about 2 pages in the World News & Nonsense.
Okay, a lot of them are not on the topic of what you are asking, but a hell of a lot of them fell into the LMAO category.
It has been talked about in many threads, in many different ways.
Yow - Someone is preaching to the choir! I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly. This is one area where Europorn definitely has an edge. They tend to dress and groom their girls beautifully. Try some of the Dorcel or Private titles. And to any American pornmakers that might chance upon this thread... yo! Listen up!
I became a Jules Jordan fan due to the Girls wearing sexy outfits in films like ASS WORSHIP but was very disappointed by films like Space Invaderz 'cos the girls get naked too quickly and too often.
Aybesea makes a very good point about Euro porn being a better example of our 'eye candy' needs.
If you compare LeCastel's Euro gape releases like the 'World Class Ass' series to the poorly lit, badly edited, blink and you'll miss it, Assman series, you'll see what I mean.
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DenverDon Benevolent
Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02
Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 9:44AM
Well damn,
I just re-read my post, and though I gave a reference to a search, I didn't answer darkangel statement.
I like them dressed up sexy as hell, and presented well. And since I am now coming in late on this, I'll second ayb.
And Thanks DenverDon for pointing out some other threads to me, but still in those threads they talked about how important the clothes were. If they are so important I am wondering WHY it isn't given more attention. What makes a director choose total nudity during a scene vs. clothed? Money spent on costumes? Time spent on fittings? I feel that there is probably some reason, or maybe not. Is the cost more than the reward? To me I would say that it isn't, but I'm not a pro (and I'm not trying to tell someone how to do their job, either).
I agree with what has been said thus far, and I certainly prefer much of Euro porn to State-side porn. The question I'm trying to stress here is the "WHY?" Are there any familiar with the creative processes in the industry that wish to help us out?
I hope that I've made my questions a little clearer and you can see where I'm trying to go with this.
And on a related point, one thing that annoys me about some directors/editors is how they jump cut scenes so that one moment the girl has clothes or lingerie on, then the next second suddenly it's all off.
I hate that - I wanna see girls stripping slowly, and generally moving around and changing positions. One reason why I'm going off Private (esp. Adamo and Kovi) is that they cut out the clothing removal and position change footage. All that's left is sequences of pumping bodies in fixed positions.
In my opinion it is definitely the clothing and how the girls are styled that very often makes the difference between a good and an outstanding porn DVD. Although it is always nice to see a beautiful girl in all the naked splendour it do not think it is necessary to get naked very soon. That includes for me that I will not mind if the hard fucking does not start until well into the seen and should still show some clothes on.
Although I am really a fan of Redlight District it is currently Jules Jordan who caters best to my needs. Female clothing can do so much to emphasize the highpoints of the body of a woman. There are bras that are just to sexy to be removed too soon and the same is true for (transparent) tops and panties.
So, you directors and studios, here are your loyal customers expressing their needs. Invest in some sexy outfits and dress the cuties up to make us happy.
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shameless Deactivated User
Moscow 1313 Posts 1/03
Posted - Apr 29 2003 : 2:49PM
I could not have summed it up better!
...but now lets hear what producers have to say, why they still shoot that much naked girls.
I have little to add, but I do want to help make it clear to any of our friendly professionals who may be reading this that this really is a universal sentiment.
Seeing clothes come off is way, way better than never seeing them at all.
I hear ya loud and clear! Overall, longer teases with sexy outfits are very welcome in my opinion. I think the Buttman movies are pretty good when it comes to this as are Jules Jordan's vids. I'd like to see it more in wall to wall-vids like Ana/Diabolic and RDL stuff though. It's surprising how little of that you see in features and couples porn, they often have really sexy, glossy covers but little of that stuff going on in the actual scenes.
The desire to be teased with clothing, etc., before getting down to the nitty gritty has been pretty widely agreed upon, but is rarely put to good use in most films.
... so why aren't the porn makers teasing us more?