> i take everything everyone says as what they mean. If someone says that a place i like to visit is a waste of time, i have no reason to take that in any other way than to mean exactly that, she thinks this is a waste of time.and with her schedule it probably is. My dollars are limited {like everyone's} so why should i support someone who says that? Again, if she says "Too Busy, I'm On Twitter, Won't Be Here Much" that's a different story. >I'm sure she doesn't either, so that's a push. unless others feel the same and drop her. way too many choices out there and for her to do this is in this way is, imo, a bad move. > RE: The IR pissing Match: Was totally not aware of that. However, wouldn't the smarter way to go have been something like "Due To Racist Idiots and Groundless Accusations, I Am Removing myself From ADT Immediately.Thanks to my fans,i've enjoyed talking to you, please follow me on Twitter" but she didn't do that. >Just because i disagree with a point of view, i am not being disrespectful. FUCK I HATE P.C.! and i know what you're thinking, it isn't the same. me disagreeing with a point of view is totally different than telling your fans that they are a waste of time. and BTW, the posts i have seen from her in response to fairly mundane things leads me to think that several posters are correct, she's a bitch who hates everyone who thinks she's not the GOAT. Edited by - jetpacksam on 12/16/2011 3:26:04 AM
^ apparently everyone else caught another meaning for her post , and it wasn't related to her fans but the presence of too many trolls/idiots/mean guys in the forum you understand differently maybe because you just want to understand as such
No one here is bigger than ADT whether you are a director,performer,reviewer,fan or whatever the hell you are.If you feel you no longer "feel" this place,then bye-bye.And on your way out,make sure the door does'nt hit your ass.
Wow, some of you guys are really something. You're complaining that Kristina should be more thick skinned and let comments she doesn't like hearing roll off her yet when she says pornstars posting here is a waste of time you get all pissy and mad. Why is it okay for some of you to get pissed at something she says but not okay for her to get pissed at what's said here? Just because you buy, rent, or illegally download a pornstars movies that doesn't mean you have some sort of right or obligation to just say anything you please to them. Well...actually you do have the right but why you want to be a jerk and not care about their feelings and say bad or negative things? They're out there trying to make a living and do their best it just isn't fun to hear some of the stuff fans throw out at them. Yes, it's a reality of the job and it's bad enough that non-porn fans give them a hard time but one would think supposed fans would cut them a bit of slack. It must incredibly tiring for someone who actually works in a profession to constantly hear from people who never did it a day in their lives claim to know things better than they do and people who don't know them claim to know their reasons for doing things and what type of person they are. Lastly, she's a woman. Most women are more sensitive to comments, remarks and such than guys. Some of you need to remember that. Sure she has sex on camera and might say stuff you don't like but she's still a young woman and more senstive than most of horny old agnry men here who can be insensitive. Kristina took the time to come on here and let you know what she's up to try and interact with you when she didn't have to because she thought it would be a cool thing to do. Now she's part of the long list of pornstars who don't anymore because they feel the same way she does but just didn't say it.
@jetpacksam This is the same as a someone you know from work getting in a fight with the boss and storming out of the building yelling, "Fuck this office!" Would you think this person was talking about you or all the bullshit? You say you hate PC, so what is "Too Busy, I'm On Twitter, Won't Be Here Much"? No, she said she's done with this site and what you suggested she say is PC. @Laurie Cameron Fan I agree. Also, by a block user button, I mean one that the keeps a trolls posts from popping up on the blockers particular computer. Basically, trolls can post in a thread but the people that blocked them can't see it. I don't know if such a thing exists.
I still think that mods could bit more proactive in terms of shaping the discourse. Frankly, looking at the abomination that is the Bree Olson thread, for example, I think demands it. It isn't just flare-ups. At very least consider a black-out function for useless posts.
^^ Agree also,them sort of comments are bang out of order,what a muppet.Why people can't just keep some things to themselves i don't know,thats the problem with the internet though,loads of idiots loose with keyboards to type any bullshit that pops into their little brains.
"But...but...but she should take it! she needs thicker skin!" see how stupid some of you sound. Yet Kristina does it, and is speaking the fucking truth while at it, and you all get pissy. hmmm. ----Dread----
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Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 12:58PM
double post, please read next page... Edited by - chuckthefreak on 12/16/2011 6:57:01 PM
Katiesummersxxx is a performer ,I don't know if she got implants but maybe she was talking about herself , maybe she was happy with her new boobies and just wanted everyone to know , I don't think she wanted to harass Kristina
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Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 2:20PM
The part you might've misunderstood, I was talking about how Kristina went all Loco on a posted called Ashlii in another thread, when she/he merely expressed her opinion which wasn't even really that bad.
^^^ his opinion lol i explained my name in another thread. but i wasnt trying to cause anything i was only saying that she didnt seem that nice, and i didnt expect anyone to say she was a nice person which no one did. but i dont know her personally just from what i see on here and twitter. i said she does take care of her fans but only when they buy stuff for her. but the whole amazon wish list is another arguement. jman's response to me was great and made me realise that she could be a great person, but then her response to me changed that. she ccould of just asked what i didnt like about her and been cool about it.
Really? I see a lot crybabying and oversensitivity after getting a little slap in the face from a porn star they didn't feel they needed to respect. (Great post overall though, Draxxx :) I will be the first to boohoo about Kristina leaving, though. That's a damn shame.
^ I'll try to explain that in a simple way , by choosing to do porn a girl makes a life changing choice, she will be harassed in many ways in the outer world , people who think they're entitled to judge her, people who really think she fucks random guys anytime anywhere no matter what. People who can have her fired because of her past , people who can force her to move in another house because of her "dubious morality" , some of them might be forced by a judge to leave porn or lose the custody of their son (happened actually) .In many cases they have hard times with friends and family. Lot of shit , so if some of this shit happens I find only natural if a star gets touchy , I would do the same very likely. She might hope to find a comfortable place where she's loved instead of judged , namely among her fans , a place where what she does and what she is would be appreciated, a place where she feel she's making if not happy at least satisfied, those who like her. but.... surprise there's not such place , not anymore,the haters are everywhere anything you do is not enough anything you say is wrong anything you did could criticized and judged in a way even worse than that outside of porn. In a post someone wants her in a blowbang someone wants her heavily humiliated , chocked , gaggled , others want her performing anals , then double anals then to be gaped ,she said hey I'm doing all of this, I did it , I want to be appreciated I want your love.(aside of course the money they're workers don't forget this) Would she get this? no someone else will jump in saying she's an idiot , double anals are gaysh and that she will have some medical problems just by doing anals (a problem apparently existing only in the USA in Europe there's no concern about this)so she should cease immediately. Other come to say they don't like her at all What about all those who think that if you criticize and attack a pornstar means that you're praising them? so she might ask why I'm I staying here , I can get my share of shit on my own out of here, a big share, so why I have to stay here? just answer, why?Just a question would you say to a woman in real life she's not nice? Would you criticize her wish list? Is her entitled to wish whatever she wants? so why did you said that to her? I never had a problem with her and I'm not even a big fan, I like her for sure but I'm not a praiser , I just respect her.
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/16/2011 4:20:47 PM
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Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 4:22PM
12/16/11 Two days have passed and Kristina's account is still active. She is probably sitting back and laughing her just fucked ass off at all the attention her thread is receiving. If Kristina has left the building, I for one will miss her little self shot pictures she posts. At the same time there is plenty of great stuff being posted at ADT for me to keep busy.
i would ask her why she is not nice and listen. maybe things have happened in her past that she feels she needs to act strong. im a listener rather than a talker. the whole idea of asking people to buy her items that cost 1000s of dollers or what ever currency you use, is rediculous just for some panties she wore and a few signed things. but like i said thats not just her, its other stars that is another issue
^ She don't have to be nice she just have to be herself , it's us those who should adapt, just like when you met a new girl and want to hit on her you should adapt your approach to what she is , you cannot expect her to be nice with you , if you do she'll be gone. same here we should adapt to people personality especially the stars, we don't know each other , we don't know the limit we can push a joke. We don't know for example what was the cost of a performance how demanding it was , maybe when you criticize a stars for a scene she might get touchy for some reasons maybe she had issues with a stud or the director or she was ill , we don't know , many of us tend to forget that to do porn is a job in many cases very demanding. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/16/2011 4:52:57 PM
I'm not the type to adapt to someone so they'll like me or exchange words with me. I'm sure a lot of people here feel the same. The ones that adapt are the ones kissing ass. You can either kiss some ass or give a $1000 a hour to her to keep her as a friend. There's a name for that mental illness. Not sure if there's a medication though. That's what I've been saying and you ^ just said it too. Everyone should "adapt."
Man in nature those who didn't adapt are extinct It's not a medication it's the usual way to live not only with Kristina but with everyone, kissing asses is a different thing but being assholes is way too common ,especially on this board lately I'm not saying this of you it's a general new trend here
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/16/2011 5:13:38 PM
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Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 6:56PM
That has got to be one of the most ridiculous demands/requirements I've heard to be a forum member. There is a reason why this is called a "Public" forum, and not WorshipKristinaRose.com/forums. People are entitled to express their opinions, just like she is....so long as it doesn't cross the line. Line that's followed in general, and not the imaginary standards/line Kristina and her certain fans have specifically set for herself. The issue here is, Kristina jumping into ANY thread on these forums, wherever there is a mention of her name and anything mentioned that she doesn't like..and throwing tantrums and getting into pissing contests. NO ONE has to adapt to what Kristina Rose likes to hear, and doesn't like to hear in a PUBLIC forum. She is a good performer, but she's not the best thing since Sliced bread...far from it. She isn't the only porn performer who posts on these forums, we have girls like Dana DeArmond, Bobbi Starr, Jenna Haze who have been posting for years...as well as plenty of newer girls. So if we have to adapt to Kristina's moods and likes, then should we have to do the same for other stars as well? What kind of credibility would that give to a public forum, which is widely respected and popular. Ask yourself that, and start looking at it from both point of views, because you seem very biased atm. In case you missed what I said about the topic, I'll post it again:Edited by - chuckthefreak on 12/16/2011 6:58:04 PM
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 8:40PM
I deleted my post after I cooled off a bit. I may still repost it, it is a dosage of reality but not into getting into fights here. Too easy to get sucked into it.
Edited by - peoples temple on 12/16/2011 9:22:18 PM
about the meeting thing if your talking about me, im male lol. i explained my name in another thread. i should have thought it out more carfully lol. maybe she thought i was female too which had something to do with it
^ I thought you were female for a while, but figured it out not long after. You did name yourself after a woman, after all. Just assume people think you're a gal from now on. :)
As a long time Kristina Rose fan I am disappointed to hear she feels the site is waste of time for performers. Having been a member here for over 10 years I would have a much different opinion as I've watched the site grow leaps and bounds with super participation from the industry itself from directors to performers to PR people. There is no doubt twitter has become HUGE for the porn girls to say a lot and tout their films to dancing gigs to yes wishlists. I still think ADT offers a great way to stay in touch with fans who enjoy their work so I'll miss hers and any stars lack of posting on the site. This site is by no means perfect and there are topics which can generate a lot of heat and I think we know which ones- IR, boob jobs and I tend to stay out of those. As for why her profile is still active you can't delete a profile which is my understanding, there can only be deactivation and I've already emailed the powers that be regarding this. Hopefully she'll decided to come back and post because the site is better for her participation.
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Dec 16 2011 : 11:17PM
Well, let's just say you put it over all of us with your deception which was obviously intentional from the outset. If someone wants to deceive the website they can easily do so using an opposite gender. Not only do you take a female name but you post a photo of a woman as your avatar. But you are exempt of blame because you later explained it after deceiving us, that will free you from any guilt. I will say this about Kristina Rose, she at least posts her name as the person she is. The non industry posters do not and should not have to do so. No reason for you to pull your trick. The more I post about this the more irritating I get and I was defending you after your spat with her.
It's actually quite sad when any porn babe doesn't wanna participate here at the forum cuz of bullshit drama their very presence causes but I'm sure Kristina will move on just like all the others that have been driven away have done. Edited by - Asmodeus on 12/17/2011 2:17:02 AM
I wasn't talking only about Kristina I was complaining about the whole board trend , also a "public" forum is a place to "meet" people which means that although you're entitled to have any opinion you want , you should behave , without being harsh with those who are already there. I see you arrived in 2010 , this board was very much different before , you say a lot of stars has been here for years , true but they are ALL gone now , why? Just try a guess. Belladonna, Francesca Lè, Jenna Haze, Sasha Grey,Teagan, Aurora Snow and many others were here posting on a daily basis along with MANY others, all gone. I saw a thread in which someone said shit to a performer , as he was a psychologist about her to be a fail in real life (not exact words but that was the meaning) about her not being a good performer , about her not doing anals , you know what? She left. Just opinions in a public board? no he was an asshole a perfect asshole. There are things you can say and other you can't not as a rule of the policy but just having manners ,in real life no man with a bit if urbanity will say to a woman she's ugly or that she's nothing for him, yes he has the right to speak it loud but a right doesn't mean that is proper thing to do at the moment. There are many performers I don't like at all , if they stars in a movie I won't pick it up, but you can't find any name here , I would NEVER say to a woman she's repulsive or not attractive at all especially to those who make a living through their sex appeal , I may be entitled to express this , but is not the proper way to conduct a conversation with them in their own post. Also if I don't like someone for any reason ( there are performers I can't stand although I can't say they're not attractive) then again I won't jump in their thread to say this, and even if I say, I would do just once , but there's people here who keep saying again and again throughout the whole board. Also this board has (had) a value meaning the presence of the stars , the big stars, and the fact that you can ask about them and discover things you never suspected about them , just like when you met someone new.If the stars escape the whole board will drop its commercial value , much less people will come here if there's nothing to see, unless you believe your opinions on how much you dislike a performer are worth a membership Now the members just talk to each others in lame discussion or heated discussions , the stars are gone , just a couple are still here but judging from the hatred I read in another board toward them (and Kristina) I don't think they will last long. This board was a lot much active , when I logged in to read any reply on topic I was discussing in , I usually found them in third or fourth page of the main section , now a topic stays in the first page and even in a position above tenth for DAYS. There's much less people posting here,not only the stars but also much less members , many disappeared , there no point stayiong here without the stars That's why you should have a particular attention when you're talking to the stars. Also, as I said, I'm not a Kristina's big fan, I like her , but there are others I like more than her with no particular reason , I just feel more empathy with them. So said , I read some posts here where she has been labeled as a racist, she replied normally saying she just does IR when offered , they continued and so the heat of the discussion increased. In another topic I read that Kristina is a lame performer, now you may not like her but she's nowhere near a lame performer. In another thread it was said that she's mechanical and with no passion especially when coupled with Manuel Ferrara. WHAT? I'm sure whoever said that has actually never seen Kristina coupled with Manuel or if he did he was heavily drunk or completely wasted. I'm not even mentioning those who said shit to her personally But the point is , what do you expect a star would reply after all this shit? She replied in her particular way (I BTW liked a lot the way she insults , very imaginative)for long while then she give up, just as many others did way before her, she only announced this to her fans , a form of respect in my view, all the others simply left without a farewell.
Performers are no longer active here that much because they see Twitter as superior.A lot of them crave mainstream success and Twitter is mainstream.Unfortunately for them they are not welcome in the mainstream sphere.They will remain that porn girl, end of!
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Posted - Dec 17 2011 : 6:57AM
I think this is probably true because I've seen it on other message boards as well. Twitter gives these women a sense of absolute control where they can advertise their wishlists, get immediate fan boy feedback, and criticize, without worrying about mods, those that disagree with them. Also they don't have to type out long responses given the nature of twitter.
I don't think so , but even if it is as you say then we have to be careful with those who are still here without throwing shit upon them. Here is people who actually think that if you don't say shit to someone you're kissing asses, never heard anything worse here. also twitter is big but in there a star can get as a follower only those who already know her, here anyone who arrives can discover many stars even those he never thought he would be interested in which is exactly what happened to me with Joanna Angel. I always discarded her movies because I don't like a too much inked skin, but read here read there I gave her a try ,I'm still in awe a wonderful performer a much hotter woman. Through her I discovered another most beautiful performer still almost unknown: Indigo Augustine. If I wasn't a regular here I would never picked up any Joanna Angel's movie , as of now I'm picking up anything I can find of her even lez which I don't like at all (with very few exceptions). ADT is a much more powerful advertiser than any twitter , on twitter you can't reach any potential follower who doesn't know you, on ADT you'll get tons of posts about almost any performer , covering 40 years of porn To leave ADT has a cost in terms of popularity , ADT increases your value the more know a star the more she can sell.If some star escapes will lose a great part of the free advertising she has by posting here. So don't think that a star would leave easily, if she does , she gave it a thought many times before quitting. Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/17/2011 9:07:57 AM
We shouldn't have to be forced to "adapt". People should instictively be respectful to one another...but they aren't...so we deal with the consequences. It's a public forum and unfortuantely some parts of the public have no tact, respect and are insenstive to others. That's life, what are you going to do? People have the right to post here and make comments and give opinions within the set rules and guidelines. If someone feels the burning need to tell Kristina she isn't that great, they can do that...but Kristina also has the right to not take it well, tell that person off, or get mad and leave. It's strange reading post after post from people who feel it's okay for them to be free to say whatever but it's not okay for a person (Kristina)have a negative reaction to it. Some people are hoping Kristina comes back...but why should she? Nothing's going to change or be different. There'll still be people here saying things she doesn't like and she'll not like reading those things and she'll still react to them. Despite the moderators' efforts at this point there's enough people who feel it's more important that they be able to say whatever goofy, insensitive, rude, or mean comments they need to express than have the site be more pornstar friendly. That's fine and the site can certainly function that way but it's silly to expect all or any pornstars and people in the business to want to read that stuff and interact with fans like that when they certainly don't have to. It's a two-way street. The people here can talk crap and the industry people can decide they aren't interested in hearing it.
I'm not going to do anything,nor I want people to be forced in any way , in fact I said I'd like a little bit more manners I was just putting some points hoping some could think about it and maybe change a bit. It is apparent that I failed Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 12/17/2011 12:04:32 PM
I totally agree with this... I know that this forum is beneficial, because I first heard of KR here and learned of her dancing this past summer from here
@Laurie Cameron Fan.I am not saying ADT is inferior,I am just basing my conclusions on a simple fact that Twitter is the in thing now even for adult performers.The fact is they prefer Twitter and that's fine but they must not shit in a well that once nourished them.
You're trying to do a good thing but it's a complete waste of time. As you see by the responses here some people don't feel they are the problem and think Kristina is/was. If a person doesn't feel they were wrong they aren't going to want to change. This type of board and environment just isn't the type of place where most pornstars will like and enjoy for any extented time on a regular basis. Most of it isn't even a "manners" thing. People just aren't going to always be complimentary to all pornstars, porn makers and the porn biz. It's one thing to be here as a consumer/fan but it can't be fun for people in the biz to read negative stuff about them, their friends, their work and the industry they work in from people who never had to do this stuff and in many cases don't know what they're talking about. Once in awhile may be okay but it's pretty much a constant thing here and other sites like this. Pornstars just have too many options where they have better control of what they have to read and the fans they interact with these days. This is a good site but if you're a pornstar you simply have so many other options where you can create a more inviting/fun/safe enviornment for yourself.
Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99
Posted - Dec 20 2011 : 12:38PM
We can't delete profiles. We also can't possibly monitor every post. Very few people let us know about problems in the Next Deactivated Member thread. Very few people email me about problem posters. I'm happy to delete asshole posts and deactivate jerks. But we need help from community members and performers who are having a problem with someone. Kristina, I'm sorry you find more value in Twitter than our site. A lot of performers have gained tons of new fans on our site and also directly gotten work from directors and producers on our site. 60,000 people visit ADT every day, with a very high percentage of visitors who actually buy porn. I realize there is a lot of BS to deal with, but we are here and happy to help. None of us likes all the idiots on the internet. They are everywhere, not just on ADT. If I were a performer I would use every outlet possible to increase my fan base and introduce myself to more producers and directors. While I may be biased, I know ADT is a great vehicle to market oneself and often an enjoyable place to talk about porn, despite the gnats.
I've been following Kristina's career and her comments on ADT. I think that she is naturally a confrontational person. That's not good or bad it's just who she is. That being said I accept her personality for what it is. As a fan of porn the only thing that should matter is if you enjoy her videos. If yes then say "thank you" and "Kristina, I enjoy your work" and then move on with your life. If you don't enjoy her work then find another performer who you do like and complement them. I think that I've commented on an "IR" thread once or twice when I first joined ADT and then after I saw how you guys roll I left it alone. The "IR" threads and the "I hate fake tits" threads have got to be the most useless time and energy wasters that have ever been created on the inter-webs. What's the f**king point? These threads serve no purpose other than to piss people off. I find no entertainment or joy in them. I hope that Kristina does reconsider. And to keep trolls from destroying this great forum I think that an "ignore" button is a good idea. :-)
"It takes courage to enjoy it: the hardcore and gentle...Big Time Sensuality!"
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Posted - Dec 20 2011 : 7:31PM
I don't post here in the upper forums much but I've worked directly with Kristina on the production of the movies she's done for Vouyer Media and Burning Angel Entertainment, and this has never been my experience. Roads To Moscow / Twitter: @roadstomoscow
