exoticanddarklover Deactivated User 94 Posts 11/22 Posted - Dec 20 2024 : 6:17AM
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You say "porn" and I agree with you aside the white man stuff on a "global level", you know Asians are almost three billions just with China and India already and the World biggest producer is Japan , the "white stuff could go with paying customers of western porn due to disparity with means, but on a global scale? The whites , or better yet, combining the USA and the EU you'll have some 800,000,000 inhabitants even assuming they're all whites and all of them are porn consumers they're still just a fraction of the over 8 billion human beings on this planet.
Plus we're talking of niche porn , and niche consumers , no matter how big the niche is , it's still niche the most part of porn consumer don't watch it and if they do they do it on occasion not as joining members of devoted porn site , and even among those who are fetished with that niche porn not all of them like the same content , there are those who like passionate sex and those who like hard gangbangs.
For example I'm told that one of most followed footbal team are Dallas Cowboys , yet they do not represent all of Sports and there are sport passionate that only watch them when they confront their own favourite team . Consider also that there are Basket, Hockey, Baseball and so on. It doesn't matter how big Vixen media is, their IR content represent only that niche , hell even Vixen Media produces more non IR content considering all their sites (Blacked , Vixen, Tushy, Slayed , Milfy, Deeper and some Raw version of them) , So when we talk about IR we should limit ourselves to that topic and to that niche market.
All that I said was by my personal experience om the site and on this board and most of those who commented there and were against hiring black women said they were black , and the same happened on this very board , you can read them yourself , the scenes were issued in April-May 2017 when Blacked Hire Kira Noir as the Girlfriend of Mr M (Mandingo) in a non sexual part and when Ana Foxx did a lez scene with Kendra Sunderland
And I'm not even mentioning the comments over Dogfart when they published a cuckold scene with Ana Foxx cuckolding her watching black boyfriend with a white lover , go figure
Edit I wrote 800,000 instead of 800 million my bad
Actually really appreciate you bringing up the global aspect. I'm very well aware of the rise and fall of European peoples and societies, essentially beginning with the discovery of and introduction of the printing press to Europe and continuing until today, albeit, in 2024, the world is clearly on track to shift its human epicenter from the western hemisphere back to the east. This is huge across all sectors of today's global market, including americas entertainment industry and in this case adult entertainment. Disney sells its movies to Chinese audiences, as China remains the #2 market for Disney franchise movies. But there's a huge difference In non western and western cultures. Do Indian, Pakistanis, China, and the rest of Asia , or Africa for that matter have different opinions of porn?
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[Link] exoticanddarklover Deactivated User 94 Posts 11/22 Posted - Dec 20 2024 : 6:21AM
LCF wrote:
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You say "porn" and I agree with you aside the white man stuff on a "global level", you know Asians are almost three billions just with China and India already and the World biggest producer is Japan , the "white stuff could go with paying customers of western porn due to disparity with means, but on a global scale? The whites , or better yet, combining the USA and the EU you'll have some 800,000,000 inhabitants even assuming they're all whites and all of them are porn consumers they're still just a fraction of the over 8 billion human beings on this planet.
Plus we're talking of niche porn , and niche consumers , no matter how big the niche is , it's still niche the most part of porn consumer don't watch it and if they do they do it on occasion not as joining members of devoted porn site , and even among those who are fetished with that niche porn not all of them like the same content , there are those who like passionate sex and those who like hard gangbangs.
For example I'm told that one of most followed footbal team are Dallas Cowboys , yet they do not represent all of Sports and there are sport passionate that only watch them when they confront their own favourite team . Consider also that there are Basket, Hockey, Baseball and so on. It doesn't matter how big Vixen media is, their IR content represent only that niche , hell even Vixen Media produces more non IR content considering all their sites (Blacked , Vixen, Tushy, Slayed , Milfy, Deeper and some Raw version of them) , So when we talk about IR we should limit ourselves to that topic and to that niche market.
All that I said was by my personal experience om the site and on this board and most of those who commented there and were against hiring black women said they were black , and the same happened on this very board , you can read them yourself , the scenes were issued in April-May 2017 when Blacked Hire Kira Noir as the Girlfriend of Mr M (Mandingo) in a non sexual part and when Ana Foxx did a lez scene with Kendra Sunderland
And I'm not even mentioning the comments over Dogfart when they published a cuckold scene with Ana Foxx cuckolding her watching black boyfriend with a white lover , go figure
Edit I wrote 800,000 instead of 800 million my bad
Vixen media is "barely IR." It's ultra soft core, idk if that's a good word, but cheesy and overproduced/not as good as gonzo porn or something ln bangbros or dogfart.
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[Link] KingBlacked Member 212 Posts 10/22 Posted - Dec 22 2024 : 9:54PM
Lezzyist wrote:
KingBlacked wrote:
Lezzyist wrote:
dodgerfan wrote:
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Veridical is onto the right idea, even if he didn't quite put it correctly. The main *buyers* of porn are white men. White men drive what gets made because they have the money for porn more than anyone else. Most white men are not going to buy porn with black women, so there is not much money to be made off black women, so there is not a huge amount of demand for black women.
When you look at the industry and see certain constant tropes everywhere, then you know what white guys are into.
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Pretty well said and I agree with you if you are talking USA and maybe Europe. Indian and China have approximately one third of the worlds population just in those two countries so if they are into porn that skews the stats and I have no idea what they prefer.
As a white male I never watch black male/white female porn but I do enjoy black female/white male if the female is a performer I like. I enjoy Nia Nacci, Scarlit Scandal, Nicole Bexley, Misty Stone, Sara Lace, Angel Kelly from back in the day and more of the lighter skin black females.
I think the powers that be greatly exaggerate the amount of white guys that enjoy watching black males with white females. The guys I know that watch porn are pretty much the same as I am regarding this topic.
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I suspect that the white guys who are into black male/white female are among the top buyers, up there with the incest porn spenders (I am sure there is a ton of crossover there). I don't think it's that the powers-that-be think most white guys are into that; it's probably just that a large percentage of people who are into BM/WF go the full mile of actually paying for it. My main niche is skewed in a similar way. It's not that EVERYBODY who wants to watch two women have sex is into incest/pdf-file stuff; it's just that people who are into that actually pay for content more often, so that kind of thing is what gets a ton of emphasis.
The various populations and such end up not mattering too much, because those demographics don't show up too often in terms of dollar signs.
If I could convince more black people, and lesbians, and black lesbians to buy porn, I'd have way more options for my particular interests lol
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I'm black and I do buy porn mostly IR (BM/WF) and non IR (Brazzers, Scores or N.A) and I understand what you're talking about and stuff. But the problem with black people by in porn because it's mostly made by white men or the directors, but not a lot of the black continent, creators or black directors. Anyone remember FUBA back in the late 90's when they created merchandise for black people, (my uncle wore FUBA lot) and maybe if we get more Black people to create porn for black customers then they'll be great.
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That was definitely not called FUBA lmao. For Us By US.
As far as more black performers and etc production positions, another thing I was getting at was that black folk mostly don't have the $$$ relative to the main buying demo. Black folk aren't going to do much of the producing until they are doing a good bit of the buying.
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I know what FUBA means (For Us By Us) because my uncle told me about it because I didn't really what was meant because I wasn't even born around that time when we became popular. As for black not buying porn then why some of them follow porn stars and why black don't even buy it can you ask that question.[Link] KingBlacked Member 212 Posts 10/22 Posted - Jul 31 2025 : 6:50PM
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Unfortunately, it's called demand and more people will buy IR and the more it will be made. In the last 10 years the 3 most popular genre in porn are IR (BM/WF) Anal, and I don't know what's the third one but I know what it is.
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You said demand but what I said was the lack of offer , such kind of vanilla porn isn't made any more not with the consistency it had anyway and surely not with the quality it had , Digital Playground could spend millions for a production like Pirates for example but that was the last , piracy destroyed their market , you can cover the costs and still earn if your feature movie costs say $ 20.000 , but when you invest millions?.
Those kind of movies were high in demand and there was a vast offer of them, today they are very few , the demand is still there but the money is not
There were some black owned porn producers (Blackburn, Third Degree , WCP and some others) but they closed , the explosion of tubesites and high speed internet forced them to close They produced good quality porn of every kind , Black on Black,feature , IR , self producing black directors often way better than the usual white produced IR, they're all gone
And that is the problem , where are they customers gone? I'm assuming that most buyers of Black on Black porn were also black , I don't believe that many whites did that (I did , but then again I was interested in girls , didn't and still don't give a fuck who the male talent is) Blacked covered (and surpassed with quality) the kind of porn they made plus Vixen Media could hire the talents most in demand that the Black Owned company could not , they hired hot girls of any race but not as worldwide famous as Blacked
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For one Third Degree is not a black owned company, WCP still those movies if you look on social media like Instagram like everybody else does. Maybe you don't understand the whole point about it is that the industry has changed over the past year and there is a lack of black on black because some companies aren't shooting that much. Onlyfans it's still the place for it because it shoots that much of that continent now because now onlyfans performers can make more money than doing studio scenes but some people are here don't like onlyfans which I understand because most of them prefer studio scenes. Also Brazzers is shooting more black women now because 15 years ago, they didn't shoot more black girls because it was not at the man for it but things changed since 2020 because of the BLM movement. But sadly, most black girls get harassed on social media because the lack of black men and two more scenes with white guys. Unfortunately, they cannot control who they booked for and some of these people get pissed off for it..
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browbottomhalf Member 21 Posts 7/25 Posted - Aug 19 2025 : 5:22AM
whole life never found black girls hot, unless she's light skin. Now, as long as she's not "too dark" i've been finding them sexy. Girls with more brownish hue instead of black are hot needless to say. black girls are valued less than white girls. Black guys are often on same level as white guys these days in the sexual marketplace. But both, for example, are above asian men. even latina women are deemed less valuable than the precious petite hot blondes. i'm 27. that's the way it is today. interesting. also interesting how not only is there no shortage of black male pornstars, but there's a giant demand for black men specifically, for a particular sub genre. it feeds back into this narrative that white barbie looking girls from the suburbs are like innocent queens and shan't be defiled by a huge black cock, rendering her worth much less on tne sexual marketplace[Link] Hammer1966 Member 27 Posts 7/18 Posted - Aug 31 2025 : 7:20PM
big fan of ebony women but agree not as many now as 10 or so years ago, even the ones now dont do more extreme scenes i long for more jada fires, nyomi banxxx, kitten stars, my favourites right now would be august skye first then like lily starfire, hopefully more comealong but i fear onlyfans has taken alot away from mainstream[Link]