Lady turning the tables on the guy after he cums

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Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Feb 27 2008 : 2:32PM Such a scene I have not yet seen. But it would be interesting to see a lady swallow the guy's cum, clean him up with her mouth, and then proceed to give him a thorough blow-job despite his anxious gasps and groans and wry facial expressions. Or better yet, the lady jumps on him with her pussy or ass and bangs him despite his obvious difficulty handling her so soon after cumming. This would be an erotic suprise for the viewer and a spectacular finish to the scene. And perhaps this wouldn't necessarily be the finish to the scene. From my own experience I can say that being back inside the lady has a way of quickly rejuvinating that tired cock. And any lady who has the gall to take advantage of a man like that may quickly find herself at the receving end of a furious pounding from this man who will be trying to work up a second orgasm with her. Such a scene would probably be very satisfying to watch for traditional men who feel that they've been unjustly done by feminist women. The woman who turns the tables on the guy and makes him squirm after he cums would symbolize all those feminist-leaning women who divorce their guys after having kids with them and make these guys pay through the nose for alimony and child support. A lot of guys squirm like that after having sex with their ladies in real life. And there is nothing more these guys wish than to be back in charge of the lady's pussy and/or ass and bang the crap out of her. A guy rejuvinating his cock with a lady who takes advantage of him and banging the crap out of her second time around would certainly satisfy such fantasies of many horny real-life squirming-men in a symbolic kind of way. Edited by - Dan on Feb 27 2008 [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Feb 27 2008 : 9:16PM Such a scene would probably be very satisfying to watch for traditional men who feel that they've been unjustly done by feminist women. The woman who turns the tables on the guy and makes him squirm after he cums would symbolize all those feminist-leaning women who divorce their guys after having kids with them and make these guys pay through the nose for alimony and child support. A lot of guys squirm like that after having sex with their ladies in real life. And there is nothing more these guys wish than to be back in charge of the lady's pussy and/or ass and bang the crap out of her. Click to expand You've got some emotional issues, don't you? [Link]
Wiseass formerly known as Member 94 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 1 2008 : 2:06AM LOL... I doubt many of the raincoaters that post in this forum are free from "emotional issues", so I wouldn't throw stones on that topic. I DO like the idea of scenes that involve "turning the tables", although not for the same motivations as Dan. I like the idea of a typical porn star with a huge cock pounding away at a girl with a tight pussy. Except, he gets too aroused by her tight pussy and needs to pause frequently to keep from cumming early. She's impatient to cum, however, so she takes control (shifting the action from missionary to cowgirl, for example) and fucks HIM at a frantic pace. This makes him blow his wad inside her pussy. But, she wants to cum, so she keeps going (great visual here of his cum running down his cock as she slams against him). Eventually, because he's shot his load, he loses his hardon and his cock just buckles under her pussy. So, she playfully demands that he continue, and she gives him a great BJ/HJ to try and get him back in action. When he finally gets his erection back, he re-takes control and fucks her ass doggy-style until he finally cums again, this time on her face. That would be a great scene. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 1 2008 : 11:39AM You guys and your fantasies....you actually believe all the women orgasm in porn don't you? [Link]
Wiseass formerly known as Member 94 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 1 2008 : 12:02PM Actually, no. The girl "wanting to cum" is just to give some motivation to the action, so it isn't so obvious it's just what the director told them to do. [Link]

Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 3 2008 : 3:06PM LubeNLuv wrote: You guys and your fantasies....you actually believe all the women orgasm in porn don't you? Click to expand Perhaps porn women don't often have real orgasms during their scenes. But there is no reason why these women can't or shouldn't have such orgasms. From my own experience I can say that a good pussy massage with a well-lubricated flat of my hand has made all the women I've been with orgasm. I haven't yet met a woman who won't orgasm for me during such a mastrubatory massage. The lack of real female orgasms in porn scenes is probably due mostly to ignorance about female sexuality and lack of massage skills best suited for female anatomy. Only one time I've seen a scene from a Brazillian movie where one of the guys kept going after a lady's pussy with his hand at every opportunity and masturbating her clitoris throughout the scene. He never actually brought her to a clitoral orgasm because of all the interruptions of changing positions and another guy porking her. But he did make her look a lot more sexually excited and ready to fuck than any other porn lady I've seen in a while. It's routine for guys to make a show of their orgasm at the end of the scene. And I see no reason why porn women shouldn't make a female-orgasmic show at the end of the scene too. All it would take is a guy putting some lube on his hand and masturbating the lady's pussy with the flat of his hand until she orgasms. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 5 2008 : 11:31PM Dan wrote: LubeNLuv wrote: You guys and your fantasies....you actually believe all the women orgasm in porn don't you? Click to expand The lack of real female orgasms in porn scenes is probably due mostly to ignorance about female sexuality and lack of massage skills best suited for female anatomy. Click to expand No Dan. The reason for lack of real female orgasms in porn scenes is that a) you can't tell the difference anyways, b) you'll buy a DVD full of fake orgasms as quickly as one full of real orgasms and c) porn isn't about two adults giving sexual pleasure to one another. It's about making money. Taking time for real orgasms isn't in the script. The coupling isn't for pleasure, it's a job. [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 5 2008 : 11:40PM some hardcore psychological issues have been highlighted in this thread. think of it as the first step toward serious therapy. Edited by - ma meeshka on 3/6/2008 5:14:32 PM [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 6 2008 : 1:10PM LubeNLuv wrote: No Dan. The reason for lack of real female orgasms in porn scenes is that a) you can't tell the difference anyways, b) you'll buy a DVD full of fake orgasms as quickly as one full of real orgasms and c) porn isn't about two adults giving sexual pleasure to one another. It's about making money. Taking time for real orgasms isn't in the script. The coupling isn't for pleasure, it's a job. Click to expand If showing sexual pleasure is not the main theme of porn movies. Then why do the studs always make such a big show of having an orgasm at the end of each and every scene? Sure, the main purpose of film producers is to make money. But in order to make money they have to provide something the viewers want to see, which is the portrayal of sexual pleasure. It's true that women don't ejaculate the way men do. And women need to express their emotions more during orgasm in order to communicate their orgasmic pleasure to the viewers. But that doesn't make women's orgasms any less enjoyable to watch than the orgasms of men. Porn is all about showing sexual pleasure for the benefit of the viewer. And porn films that do this best are porn films that end up being the most popular among viewers and profitable for the film-makers. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 6 2008 : 1:17PM ma meeshka wrote: some hardcore psychological issue have been highlighted in this thread. think of it as the first step toward serious therapy. Click to expand I suppose, watching porn films can be therapeutic too, especially if the action in these films mimics real life in some symbolic way. Perhaps it's time to create another category of porn films called 'therapeutic porn' in addition other categories, such anal, orgy, gang-bang, etc. [Link]
MissJanet Member Germany, Europe 110 Posts 3/05	Posted - Mar 6 2008 : 3:12PM It's true that women don't ejaculate the way men do. And women need to express their emotions more during orgasm in order to communicate their orgasmic pleasure to the viewers. But that doesn't make women's orgasms any less enjoyable to watch than the orgasms of men. Click to expand Oh holy mother of the arthouse film! Do you honestly believe that a woman would want to express her emotions during an orgasm (whatever that means) while fucking some stuntcock with people standing around and making jokes about the situation? I doubt that anyone can pay that much money and I also doubt that the viewer want to witness such genuine emotion from random people they watch fucking. Edited by - MissJanet on 3/6/2008 3:13:31 PM [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 6 2008 : 5:16PM Dan wrote: I suppose, watching porn films can be therapeutic too, especially if the action in these films mimics real life in some symbolic way. Click to expand i meant that watching too much porn has made you need therapy. Dan wrote: Such a scene would probably be very satisfying to watch for traditional men who feel that they've been unjustly done by feminist women. The woman who turns the tables on the guy and makes him squirm after he cums would symbolize all those feminist-leaning women who divorce their guys after having kids with them and make these guys pay through the nose for alimony and child support. Click to expand this is sick. not only do you misunderstand and misrepresent feminism, but this veers off into delusional fantasy. borderline psychotic. [Link]
Wiseass formerly known as Member 94 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 7 2008 : 5:18AM No, it's not "borderline psychotic", it's just someone with a different VIEW of "feminism" than yours. It's not my view, but I know plenty of men who see things that way, and they are not "psychotic" no matter how much you might want to label them that way. That said, I have no interest in porn that deals with feminist or anti-feminist agendas, but I do think it would be cool if Rocco pounded the hell out of some girl's pussy, shot his load all over her face, and then had her "turn the tables" on him and rode his shriveling cock for her own pleasure, only to have him regain his erection and pound her up the ass in a second turn of the table. It would just be FUNNY as HELL. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 7 2008 : 12:19PM ma meeshka wrote: this is sick. not only do you misunderstand and misrepresent feminism, but this veers off into delusional fantasy. borderline psychotic. Click to expand Feminism is not some formal religion that has a holy book and strict rules for understanding relations between men and women. There is no single ideology of feminism, and there is no single way of representing it. Feminism is just a loose collection of like-minded people who have only one thing in common. Which is that there is war between the sexes. Men are opposed to women. And there is nothing wrong with women taking advantage of men. Because men have been taking advantage of women for a long, long time. Whether you choose to call it feminism or not. The fact is that many, many men do end up living bachelor life-styles while having to pay alimony and child-support for families that in many cases treat them as strangers. And many men in this situation do feel that they've been given a raw deal by the women they've had relationships with and by society which makes the rules for their relationships. Porn movies are made mostly for men. And it makes sense to make porn movies that pander to their feelings and attitudes in life. Not all men have marriage problems. And not all men have the same frustrations in life. But marriage problems are quite common in western societies. And making porn movies that are in some way therapeutic for men with marriage problems makes sense in terms of potential sales and profits for the film-makers. [Link]
ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 7 2008 : 7:23PM Dan wrote: Feminism is just a loose collection of like-minded people who have only one thing in common. Which is that there is war between the sexes. Click to expand wow... the first sentence approaches some kind of sanity, but then the second one takes a sledge hammer, raises it high above the face of the first sentence and smashes it down. again and again. are you 100% serious? let's pretend that this logic is cogent. how do you account for male feminists? do you realise that men and women both embody masculine and feminine traits? are you absolutely, totally serious that you think there's a war between the sexes? [Link]

ma meeshka Iconoclastic Member 3939 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 7 2008 : 7:29PM Wiseass formerly known as wrote: No, it's not "borderline psychotic", it's just someone with a different VIEW of "feminism" than yours. Click to expand yes, and it's different to the degree that it's not even feminism. feminism, by and large, has fuck all to do with divorce. that word doesn't even belong in the sentence. why is there an implication that 'feminist-leaning women divorce their guys after having kids with them and make these guys pay through the nose for alimony and child support'? i genuinely want to know, because this defies any kind of logic i'm aware of. strike the first part from that sentence and it makes sense. as it stands, it just makes no sense. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 10 2008 : 1:45AM MissJanet wrote: Oh holy mother of the arthouse film! Do you honestly believe that a woman would want to express her emotions during an orgasm (whatever that means) while fucking some stuntcock with people standing around and making jokes about the situation? I doubt that anyone can pay that much money and I also doubt that the viewer want to witness such genuine emotion from random people they watch fucking. Click to expand If men can orgasm during a sex scene. Then so can women. And if the orgasm is real. Then so are the emotions associated with it. And there is nothing wrong with expressing these emotions in a porn film. Just because it's porn, doesn't mean that it's bad and people have to hold back their positive emotions. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 10 2008 : 9:02PM Dan wrote: MissJanet wrote: Oh holy mother of the arthouse film! Do you honestly believe that a woman would want to express her emotions during an orgasm (whatever that means) while fucking some stuntcock with people standing around and making jokes about the situation? I doubt that anyone can pay that much money and I also doubt that the viewer want to witness such genuine emotion from random people they watch fucking. Click to expand If men can orgasm during a sex scene. Then so can women. And if the orgasm is real. Then so are the emotions associated with it. And there is nothing wrong with expressing these emotions in a porn film. Just because it's porn, doesn't mean that it's bad and people have to hold back their positive emotions. Click to expand Dan, I mean this sincerely. If you think porn orgasms are "emotion filled events" for both the male AND the female, you reallllllly need help. Your delusional as well as emotionally disturbed. Seriously. It's porn. Not two people expressing emotional love for one another. Hell, I'm betting 95% of the time the guy who is jerking off furiously to pop isn't even LOOKING at the girl on her knees...he's likely thinking back on the last fucking time he actually GOT sexually aroused by a woman. A big portion of the male talent are bi-sexual or even outright gay anyways, so the girl isn't even remotely appealing to them. And the girls....well, again....just faking it. Enjoy the visual appeal however you want, but you are reaching far too deeply for "meaning" in your masturbation fodder. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 4:34PM LubeNLuv wrote: .... If you think porn orgasms are "emotion filled events" for both the male AND the female, you reallllllly need help. Your delusional as well as emotionally disturbed.... Click to expand Perhaps you are too cynical about porn. The fact is that some people are naturally exhibitionists. They get a kick out of having sex in front of an audience. And these people are likely to have stronger emotions while they are having sex in a porn scene than in private. Just because most people are shy and don't enjoy having sex in front of others doesn't mean that everyone is like that. Those who have exhibitionist tendencies naturally gravitate towards the porn industry. And once they are in it, their exhibitionist tendencies grow, develop, and blossom. Edited by - Dan on 3/13/2008 4:36:49 PM [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 4:49PM I have to admit, I find this thread a little.....petty. Didn't really expect it to turn into a food fight. Perhaps the OP isn't very realistic but it's nothing to get your underwear in a kink over. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 5:00PM RandomPrecision wrote: I have to admit, I find this thread a little.....petty. Didn't really expect it to turn into a food fight. Perhaps the OP isn't very realistic but it's nothing to get your underwear in a kink over. Click to expand Reality is what you make it to be. And I see no reason why porn-makers shouldn't create the conditions where orgasms are frequent and natural for both men and women in porn scenes. Just because it doesn't happen now, doesn't mean that it can't or shouldn't be done. That's my point. I have no disagreement with anyone about the present-day reality in porn. All I'm saying is that it doesn't have to stay that way. Porn-making should develop and improve over time. Or else porn will loose much of its audience. [Link]
john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 5:23PM Dan wrote: Perhaps you are too cynical about porn. The fact is that some people are naturally exhibitionists. They get a kick out of having sex in front of an audience. And these people are likely to have stronger emotions while they are having sex in a porn scene than in private. Edited by - Dan on 3/13/2008 4:36:49 PM Click to expand Think of it this way: IT'S ACTING!!!! Sure, there can be some genuine emotion in it but its still acting, it's all fake, it's a role, a put on, GET IT? [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 5:36PM Dan wrote: And these people are likely to have stronger emotions while they are having sex in a porn scene than in private. Click to expand Highly unlikely. [Link]
MissJanet Member Germany, Europe 110 Posts 3/05	Posted - Mar 13 2008 : 6:12PM Dan wrote: And if the orgasm is real. Then so are the emotions associated with it. Click to expand I accept your version of reality. But my version is different. I find this "emotions stuff" disturbing. Talent already sucks, deepthroats, double penetrates, gags, ejaculates, takes it in the ass, get's drilled from machines and what not for your viewing pleasure. Isn't that enough outsell? Getting off is a physical thing for men and women alike. Emotions make it different, maybe more intensive, with longer lasting satisfying effects, but it also makes the participants vulnerable. Porn people fuck each other, but they don't have to have feelings for each other. Maybe there is sympathy, chemistry and some shared sense of humour. Isn't THAT enough? Edited by - MissJanet on 3/13/2008 6:14:52 PM [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 14 2008 : 1:03PM john lyons wrote: Think of it this way: IT'S ACTING!!!! Sure, there can be some genuine emotion in it but its still acting, it's all fake, it's a role, a put on, GET IT? Click to expand Good actors and actresses actually feel the emotions that they portray in their movies. Which is why their emotions often look so genuine in movies. Sure, bad acting is the way you describe it. But I see no reason why porn acting must always be bad acting. If porn acting can be made better in some way. Then why not make the effort to make it better? With the massive amounts of porn being produced nowadays. The only way porn films and porn companies can stand out from the rest and make reasonable profits is to improve their products and be better than the rest. And improving porn acting is certainly one way to do it. [Link]

laramaze Member DO me right or GO home 10 Posts 10/07	Posted - Mar 14 2008 : 1:25PM Having the woman in the position of power is what all Maze Ent films are all about. I'm so sick and tired of seeing girls demeaned or watching a scene where the girl isn't into it, or it's so over the top fake that I turn the crap off. Edited by - laramaze on 3/14/2008 1:28:34 PM [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Mar 14 2008 : 6:09PM Dan wrote: Good actors and actresses actually feel the emotions that they portray in their movies. Which is why their emotions often look so genuine in movies. Click to expand Where do you get this belief from? Are you referring to method acting? In that case actors draw on OTHER experiences in their life to create the emotion. I doubt many porn performers are method actors, to put it mildly. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 12:57AM I doubt many porn performers are method actors, to put it mildly. Click to expand I doubt many porn performers are ACTORS or ACTRESSES PERIOD, to put it not so mildly. They are performers. It's like trying to compare vaudeville to a Tony-award winning musical. Not even in the same damn ballpark. Dan, I think you'd be better off with trying to work out your emotional issues in group therapy than watching porn videos. Use them for masturbation, but not as a means of "getting back" at the women of the real world who have done you wrong. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 20 2008 : 12:17PM BlackSix wrote: .... In that case actors draw on OTHER experiences in their life to create the emotion. I doubt many porn performers are method actors, to put it mildly. Click to expand Everybody can act to some extent. And acting can be improved with some training and practice. Why shouldn't porn actors and actresses try to improve their porn acting? When there is too much quantity. Then quality is what sells best. And in porn, quality includes not just the good looks of the ladies but also their porn acting abilities. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 4:30PM But Dan, you were claiming that the women were experiencing AUTHENTIC emotions, not acting. [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Mar 21 2008 : 5:12PM BlackSix wrote: But Dan, you were claiming that the women were experiencing AUTHENTIC emotions, not acting. Click to expand As I said earlier, good acting is when the actress actually feels the emotions she is portraying. And this is good acting because she sincerely expresses her emotions without pretending or lying to the viewer. With some training and practice people can deliberately make themselves feel various emotions as they wish. And that's what makes their emotions in their acting sincere. The kind of acting you are talking about is insincere acting that involves deceiving and lying to the viewer in some way. And this is the kind of bad acting that you often do see in porn movies. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 23 2008 : 12:27AM Dan wrote: As I said earlier, good acting is when the actress actually feels the emotions she is portraying. And this is good acting because she sincerely expresses her emotions without pretending or lying to the viewer. With some training and practice people can deliberately make themselves feel various emotions as they wish. And that's what makes their emotions in their acting sincere. Click to expand Doesn't exist in porn. Rarely exists in mainstream movies, where music and sound are used more to motivate emotional response from the audience than the actor/actress exhibiting anything approaching real emotion. This CAN be seen sometimes in live theatrical productions or opera where the performer is truly storytelling. The kind of acting you are talking about is insincere acting that involves deceiving and lying to the viewer in some way. And this is the kind of bad acting that you often do see in porn movies. Click to expand Porn doesn't equal acting. It's a performance. Lies and deceit are part of the package of porn. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Mar 23 2008 : 5:13AM I'm not really convinced actors feel emotions the way Dan means, as I said earlier, my understanding is that method actors use real life experiences to create the appearence of authentic emotion in a scene, but the emotion felt is not 'real' because they are not that character in that scene. [Link]