First of all, to the people who complain about IR threads, this thread is a positive thread for IR fans and this is the first thread I have ever opened here. This isn't about who does or who doesn't do black guys, so I don't see any reason why you will even view this if you aren't a fan. This is for the IR connoisseurs. We all know that every field has people who made major contributions...in Peace movements we have MLK, Ghandhi, Teresa and others, in Math we have Euler, Fourier, Laplace, Physics has Newton,Einstein, Gauss, Maxwell, Chemistry has Lavoisier, Marie Curie. Now back to topic: who do you think made major great contributions to IR in the last 3 decades. I'm not just talking about performers. In my opinion, here are the names: Marylin Chambers, Tanya Foxx, Sean Michaels, Jenna Haze or Sasha Grey, WCP ( some might say Jules Jordan Productions). Marylin was the first major star to have tried IR on camera in the late 70s with Johnny Keys and she shocked(literally) the porn industry and was disowned by her own family. Tanya Foxx was the first to risk it all by openly putting the industry on hot seat about IR in the mid 80s. Sean Michaels opened doors to people like Marcus and Lex. Jenna Haze is the first major star of the new generation to do IR...by doing so she encouraged many newbies to explore the genre without worrying about hurting their careers. WCP deserves a lot of credits too. So what is your list like?
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MrLongStiff Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 7:47PM
In my day it was Ray Victory. If he was around today and looking like he was during the 80s, EVERY American new White pornstarlet would want to do IR.
When I mentioned Sean Michaels, I was thinking about Ray Victory too but Sean had longevity going on his side. Ray left too soon and young so Sean wins it. You are right when you say that Ray Victory was the male black pornstar most girls have been attracted to the most.
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LLvladk Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 31 2009 : 7:36AM
Nina Hartley, Lex Steele and the first major studios to give it a chance.
Janine lindemulder hands down all girl scenes a perfect 10 go to guys and bang interracial from that moment on she really broke the ice
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 3:11PM
I agree that Janine doing interracial was big just like it would be big if girls like Jenna Jameson, Stormy or Jessica Drake do IR however her two scenes didn't leave any long term impact on the IR genre. The reason being that she disappeared from porn not long after that. I mentioned Janine, Jenna , Stormy and Jessica because they are the barbie doll princess kind. It's very rare to see that type doing IR Edited by - Llvladk on 1/1/2010 3:54:31 PM
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
Are you smoking yet? 252 Posts 12/09
Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 3:48PM
I thought when Sara Vandella did IR it was a big deal; And i think Asa Akira doing IR (Black Male/Asian Female) is a big deal, as i think most people would agree she is one of the "it" girls right now.
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The Mac Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 5:59PM
Also you forgot to add Savanna Samson to that list. She is the only current Vivid contract star to do IR in those Vivid movies. I hope Savanna leave Vivid and started her own company.
Lili Marlene brought the heat and nastiness and broke "barriers" (IR, anal queen) without even trying, in the early days before porn was considered glamorous.
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 2 2010 : 12:26PM
Remember Ed Powers? He used to use Jake Steed in his Dirty Debutantes movies and convinced some white girls to give Jake a shot; it would later turn out to be thier only IR scene. Jake later revealed that some of those same actresses would not even give him a freindly glance when he would say hello to them on the street a few days later (Claudia Chase). Anyway, Ed Powers gave Jake Steed enough work in the mid ninties that Jake Steed Productions was able to succesfully launch in 1997 and Jake brought many beautiful women to the world of IR porn like Mariah, Jennie Rivers, Brianna Banks and the goddess Adriana Sage. Without all the work he got from Ed Powers, Jake Steed may have never had the porn connections and cashflow to start his own porn studio, one which brought high quality IR porn to the public.
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90nine55 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 2 2010 : 12:35PM
Maybe Janine will be doing more than just her recent Brazzers scene. It would be great if she would do a new IR or gangbang scene! Time will tell!
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 2 2010 : 1:07PM
Jake Steed was really having those issues? He could have fooled the girls into thinking he is hispanic if he wanted to. That is what Ramon has done and if he had banged girls like Hannah West and Missy Stone who are still very categorical in their refusal to do black men. Too bad Jake's career was cut too short.
Man Jake Steed and Ed Powers are legends in my book. I love every one of Jake Steed's scenes such a good performer.
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 2 2010 : 1:44PM
I may have heard of this girl before but can't put a face to that name. I guess she isn't that big a star after all. Anytime a famous beautiful "barbie doll" kind of girl does IR, it gives it a major boost. That is why I agree with The Janine choice even though she is now ruined with the tattoos. The following names can give IR major boost in the future: Stormy, Jessica Drake, Nikki Hilton, Nikki Jayne and Jesse Jane. Jesse Jane gives indication it's a possibility in the future but I will surprised if Jessica does it. I know Stormy is a No No. Edited by - Llvladk on 1/2/2010 1:49:36 PM
I think you'll find Savanna Samson is a fairly big star and known name. Here's a picture of her to help jog your memory: [Image not found DB] She's a really good performer, in fact I'd place up her there as one of the best. She has a great scene with Herschel Savage in Milfwood USA where a particular anal scene showcases her 'willingness to please' persona which is a great turn on to her fans. She did an IR double penetration scene in Savanna's Been Blackmaled if I remember correctly to. Eva Angelina must be mentioned in this thread, E for Eva and Evalutionary come to mind!
Vivid was finally shammed into doing IR with their contract players in the Blackmailed series ie. Savanna, Monique and Jamine. The major star in the 80's, Ginger Lynn did one IR and the racist probably made such a big fuss that she didn't do anymore till her comeback. Yes, Jake Steede was an unusual case and we have Ed Powers to thank for that. Now we have Ramon to thank for his preformances. Have been to Cuba. Everyone knows that Cubans are part Hispanic and Africian. The darker Africian Cubans are still discrimationed against in Cuba today. Funeral by funeral the world makes progress. Let's hope for a better decade. Wayne In Dallas
I think Gina Lynn's name needs to be mentioned. GINA LYNN'S DARK SIDE was an important movie in several ways. A big name girl doing IR, one of the first movies where one girl star in all the scenes and is attempting to take her performances to the next level, and it started the trend of other movies doing the same, like Jenna Haze's DARK SIDE, G FOR GIANNA, E FOR EVA, etc., that follow the same formula. Jenna's DARK SIDE may have been more impactful career-wise but Gina's was first and set the standard.
I haven't thought of Gina but it seems like she has kept a low profile the past few years. Did she retire for a while or something? Edited by - Nimrod on 1/3/2010 4:17:13 PM
I think Jessica Drake will do IR before Stormy because of her talk of expanding her horizons. It would be great if Jesse Jane did IR. I think Gianna, Flower Tucci, & Belladonna should be on the list.
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 8:19AM
that would be cool, but the folks at Digital Playground don't even realize that black people exist. males or females. Edited by - teganlovessara on 1/4/2010 9:04:05 AM
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Ida Lupino Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 8:23AM
How can you slam Digital Playground when even black males don't think black females exist?
Just because a lot of folks are incredibly vocal about IR it's stupid to assume that black men en masse don't appreciate Black women. Edited by - Anadin on 1/4/2010 8:35:10 AM
A lot of people make that big mistake. Edited by - DeadManWalking on 1/4/2010 9:38:27 AM
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 9:43AM
Except Stormy Daniels, most of the big name girls (jessica, alektra...) at Digital Playground are open to working with black girls like Jada and Marie Luv. If Stormy don't want work with black chicks, the chances of her doing brothas are 0 %. It's very rare to see chicks who won't consider black women.
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LLvladk Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 9:47AM
I don't think Gianna and Flower Tucci should be on that list. Most girls with Flower's physique do interracial anyway. As For Belladonna, she deserves to be on the list because she is superstar.
Taylor Hayes doing IR was big too however she only did Mr Marcus. She was major competition for Jenna Jameson at some point. Too bad she retired too early.
I don't think Gianna has been important in paving the way for IR in the ways some of the other names mentioned here are...but girls like her and Brianna Love deserve props for apparently requesting to do scenes with black guys in movies that otherwise wouldn't have black performers in them if they didn't. There are lots of movies out there that would've been without any black performers in them if it not for girls like Gianna and Brianna having enough clout to request them.
Even though I know he has black in him, I will exclude Ramon from IR related discussions because he has worked with girls who aren't open to IR like Hannah West, Kristina Rose, Hannah West,Roxy, Missy Stone and Rachel Roxxx.In Hannah West and Missy Stone cases, to this day they still deny he may have black in him and get offended when people bring it up. For these reasons alone, I don't think he should be celebrated as a black performer.
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BrazilianDude Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 5 2010 : 11:42AM
^there is no way to be 100% sure he has black in hime he could be native american who knows? , it's possible (though unlikely) that he doesn't have an ounce of sub-saharan blood in him.
There is no way he doesn't have black in him. At least 30 % and I'm not just going by his skin tone. His facial features and body hair easily give him away. I don't think so many sites list him as Afro/latin for no reason.
Not too get off topic, but i thought that Stormy & Jessica Drake were still contract stars for Wicked Pictures instead of Digital Playground. Also does Digital Playground have any B/G IR films?
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 5:43AM
Digital don't do B/G IR but they do G/G IR sometimes and Jessica wants to do some G/G IR with Jada Fire or Marie Luv. Stormy on the other hand says she isn't even open to G/G IR.
Digital Playground has made "Black Cock Slut" and "A Jungle Story". Stoya has sex with Marie Luv in "Stoya Atomic Tease". In " Stoya Sexual Freak 7" Tori Black fuck some black guy.
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 9:26AM
Just like any other companies, I knew they may have done very few. I wasn't trying to imply they have never done any.
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 4:24PM
You really have to treasure the look of uncertainty on Missy Stone's face as she kneels before a gleaming Ramon` on the cover of "Diesel Dongs 7". It is as if you can read her 19 year-old mind "I dunno . . . is this a black guy? Sure does look like some of those 'brothas' back home in Maryland . . . maybe I shouldn't risk it?"
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LLvladk Deactivated User
121 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 8:36PM
You talk to her on social network and u will know that if she had any doubt, she would have never done the scene.She isn't holding for more money or afraid her stock might go down, it is just a big NO no for her.
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
404 Posts 10/09
Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 8:47PM
No way a nineteen year old from MD would mistake a guy like Ramon for anything but a Black Latino. Maryland is not Montana, there are countless Afro-Latinos there so I'm sure she went to middle school or high school with some of them. She had to have known that Ramon was light-skinned; perhaps it was a case of plausible deniability so she wouldn't have a hard time looking herself in the mirror or lose any sleep at night. I certain that we can all agree that based on that her facial expression of that cover of "Diesel Dongs 7" that Missy knew Ramon wasn't another white boy!!! Have you ever seen such an expression on a dodger before; it is absolutely priceless :0
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The Mac Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 8 2010 : 11:07PM
Well Ramon doesn't count as an Black male perfomer anyway.
ahhh the valentino complex (for those of you who remember him) to the topic at hand i have a question: does doing a token 1 or 2 ir scenes even from a "big" star make a major contribution to interracial? for me it depends on the times. marylin chambers doing interracial in BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR and in some of her later stuff would be considered a major contribution to ir. ironically it may be a bigger deal now then it was back then when the movie came out in 1973. as far as other white female performers go: the 1980s: rachael ryan, tanya foxx, viper, chanel price, gail storm, brandy wine, aja the 1990s: melanie moore, nici sterling, bionca, anastasia blue, vanessa chase, johnnie black, sylvia saint, inari vachs the 2000s: ryan connor, nikita denise, alicia rhodes, venus, renee pornero, ashley long, melanie monroe, missy monore, belladonna, barbara summer, lauren phoenix, trina michaels, kelly wells, nicole brazzle, cherie, katja kassin, georgia peach, jewel de'nyle, cytheria, bobbi star, dana dearomand, gianna michaels, kelly divine, sara jay, austin taylor, jenna haze, nina hartley and let's not forget the amateur/web girls: jan b., lynn carroll, chessie moore, samantha's den, raven black, naughty tonya, susan reno, janet mason take my hand and swear eternal loyalty---to zod!
I heard she fainted in that scene and that added to the shock.Is there any truth to that? Her family didn't speak to her for many years after that scene.
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Stalag Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 8:18AM
Yeah, best ever.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 10:28PM
I doubt many of you know or remember her but I think Lee Caroll doing IR back in the days was a big surprise. It is a very rare scene. She was the Original MILF at a time when Nina Hartley was newbie teenager.
I think the names that sort of standout for me from the earlier years are, Johnnie Keys, Marilyn Chambers, Annette Haven, and Vanessa Del Rio. From the 80's I'd say, Billy Dee, Nina Hartley, Ginger Lynn, Angel Kelly, Heather Hunter, and Sean Michaels. The 90's are Lexington Steele/Jules Jordan, Mr. Marcus, Janet Jacme, Lana Sands, Chloe Nichole, and Tiffany Mynx.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 19 2010 : 10:08PM
Christy Canyon doing IR was a big deal back in the days. America was shocked to see her sucking Billy Dee's black dick.
IR owes Jules Jordan more than anybody. That is the most open minded white guy in porn. I don't understand why Mr. South likes to badmouth such a great man. Edited by - DeadManWalking on 4/23/2010 12:12:28 PM
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Young Herschel Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 23 2010 : 5:08PM
I just saw a BangBros/MOC scene with Ramon & Micah Moore. In that scene the camera guy can clearly be heard to call Ramon "My nigga" as Ramon begins checking out Micah. Then at the very end of the scene after the facial Ramon can clearly be heard to remark that his moneyshot "came from Africa" Based on this encounter, Micah has undoubtedly been blessed by an Black man and furthermore so has Missy Stone in Diesel Dongs 7!!
Missy Stone gets VERY offended when u tell her that Ramon is black. We had some back and forths on myspace and she made it clear she will NEVER ever fuck a black man. She insists Ramon is latino. She recently retired anyway so no big loss. Edited by - DeadManWalking on 4/23/2010 5:41:08 PM
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Master D Deactivated User
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Posted - Apr 23 2010 : 7:42PM
How many times that we have to go threw this, Ramon isn't black or an afro american. Let moved on. Edited by - Master D on 4/23/2010 8:33:26 PM
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