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cross
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I Love Beef Curtains!
1072 Posts
6/05
Posted - Mar 19 2009 : 11:58PM
Are scenes getting too long these days?
I've been watching a lot of Evil Angel stuff these days, Jay Sin in particular and the scenes are all pushing around 50mins. Im not complaining, believe me there's some hot fucking in these movies but I wana get thru more scenes per session if you know what I mean. Theres just so much good porn out there and I can't seem to figure out how to see it all...
junglew
Senior Member

1042 Posts
12/02
Posted - Mar 20 2009 : 4:24PM
Scene length seems to still hover around the 20 minute mark and that is fine with me. Have seen some Evil Angel stuff and that is not my experience. Never seen a 40 minute scene much less a 50 minute scene. Am not familiar with the Jay
Sin you speak of.
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Gentleman Jon All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

1881 Posts
6/05
Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 12:03PM
I've complained about this before myself. Really long scenes aren't a problem with girls I really love. And with girls I know I'm not into at all, I'm likely to skip the scene anyway, no matter how long or short it is. But with girls that I do like, but don't love, it can become a problem. There are girls that I can happily watch for 20 minutes, but start to get bored when their scenes run over a half hour.
My thought process for choosing movies is often something like this: I'll see that there are two movies with a girl I love in them. In one of the two movies, the girl that I love will be the only girl in the cast that I like, or am familiar with, or want to get more familiar with. The other movie will have the girl I love, plus two other girls I like. So it's an easy decision to choose the second movie to watch first. If all the scenes in that movie are about 20 minutes long, then I know that the movie should have about an hour's worth of solid wanking material. But it does not follow that if the movie with one girl I love and two I like has scenes all in the forty minute range, that there will two hours of solid wanking material. Maybe. It's possible. But not necessarily. I may find myself getting bored with the long-running scenes with the girls I just like, and antsy to just skip to the scene with my fave girl.
Ideally, the girl I love would have a long scene, while the girls I only like would have scenes about 20 minutes long. But of course, the girls I only like may be the girls that other absolutely adore, and vice versa.
Even with the girls I love, I think I would often rather see them in two shorter scenes than one long one. Or at least, break up the long scene with changes in partners or settings.
fu_q All-Star Supporter
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Marv Montag (@PornOfYore)
2506 Posts
2/09
Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 2:26PM
For me, once a scene goes ove 20 minutes, I start to lose interest unless it's something spectacular.
This is also why I generally don't like movies to go over 2 hours.
wraithlead
Member

264 Posts
12/08
Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 9:43PM
length of the sex part isn't a big deal. i think that's why i like watching on my computer instead of my dvd player and tv. i like the ability to skip around.
i'm a member of a few sites, and was a long running customer of deluxepass. i've seen a lot. because of the selection, and the ability to skip around (my cheapo walmart dvd player is too tedious), i prefer computer porn.
the big deal for me is the length of the lead in. I was watching some scene, my memory sucks so don't ask, and the girl was in an elevator...then walked down a hallway...the into a room...then slowly walked across the room...into another room...then looked out a window...18 minutes in, she saw the guy across the newest room, sitting on a couch. now, i like the strip tease then fuck movies. but this was fully clothed, cheesy music, bad small-hallway camera angles. the sex was hot after that, if i remember right, but that's ridiculous.
 
Offender
Member

158 Posts
12/06
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 7:22AM
I know what you mean. Some older movies I have (i.e. mid-'90s) the scenes only seem to last about five minutes or so, it's almost like you blink and you miss them. (And if it's a scene you like it always goes by way too fast.)
But movies these days, it seems like most scenes are 20 minutes plus, and it just seems like too much of a good thing most of the time, unless I'm really into it.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 9:42AM
Really depends. I think a 20 minute scene can be plenty if the sex is hot. If they're just gonna waste time with bullshit like showing a closeup of the penetration for 18 out of 30 minutes, the scene may as well be shorter and cut out most of the close penetration junk.
SexyHard
Member

673 Posts
6/07
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 10:01AM
This is an annoyance for me as a reviewer. If I'm watching porn for fun, I'm happy to skip a scene, but when I need to watch the whole thing, the long scenes can be a real pain.
Dubious_Leftovers
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And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
1423 Posts
3/09
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 11:20AM
Yeah, I agree that the optimal time for a scene is between 20-25 minutes. All the chunk of sexual image you need at once, at a good pace... Bam! Done.
There are top companies now that make scenes that go on for 40-50 minutes, and inherently the action gets repetitive and my mind and libido tend to wander. As hot as the performers are, there's only so much of them doing the same motion on your screen you can take at one time.
I appreciate the push for better value for money, but I think too long scenes work to the overall films' detriment.
goldenballs
Member

343 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 3:20PM
The problem I have with all these long scenes, is that the sex portion of the scene seems about the same length as always, about 20-25 minutes.
But the opening tease sequences are getting longer and quite frankly boring in many cases.
Many scenes now have close to 20 minutes of chat, striptease, playing with toys, oiling up the body, all before the guy even appears, and then has to go through the whole tease routine again, worshipping the girl's ass, pouring more oil etc..
By the time the girl gives the guy a BJ I'm bored.
And I find this formula is becomming the norm even for shorter scenes now.
Many Bangbros scenes for example are about two thirds tease and one third fucking, with the total scene length about 25-30 mins.
presto_nl
Member

103 Posts
3/09
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 3:31PM
I love long tease scenes! Perhaps more interesting than the hardcore fucking itself.
ninja1
Senior Member

2939 Posts
1/08
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 3:56PM
^^^The "extended" tease scenes often miss the mark too. I'm into legs/hose/heels fetish. It's infuriating to see a superlong tease scene with a girl in a super sexy outfit, and the cameraman devotes all that time doing a lame interview (focus on her face) or closeups of her ass or boobs. I got nothing against faces or asses or boobs, but why not use those extra minutes to show viewers somethings we def won't see in the HC portion? She's gonna remove those shoes as soon as the male partner appears, so why not show them to us during the tease portion? Legs/feet always get cropped out of the frame during the HC portion, so why not show them during the tease portion? It's like these camerapersons are trained to do things in a consistently lame way, because practically all of them do it wrong.
IMHO
goldenballs
Member

343 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 7:05PM
You're right ninja.
Partly why I find overly long tease sequences to be boring is becase of the lack of variation or creativity in them. Same thing everytime.
I would say I'm a leg man, as much as anyone else is an ass man or a boob man. Yet there's still not enough focus on legs in porn, even in a few of the leg themed films I've seen they're more often than not just foot fetish films (such as the Jack's Leg Show series).
I guess I could watch an hour long scene, if it was a good hour long scene.
cross
Senior Member

I Love Beef Curtains!
1072 Posts
6/05
Posted - Mar 29 2009 : 8:42PM
I will quite happily watch a 40 minute scene if its hot but more often that not they're real repetitive - Of course if I'm into the girl I'll watch it regardless. I like say 10mins playing/tease and 30mins of mixed up fucking
sound67
Member

15 Posts
3/09
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 12:39PM
It's simple math. Advertising a long running time on the cover sells DVDs. Longer scenes cost no more money than shorter ones - more scenes do. Nuff said.
In the classic 70s and 80s films, sex scenes took no more than 7, 10 mins max, each. Ahhh, those were the days. Of course, you'd have to have some sort of script, and real directors at the helm. And much closer to real life, too. ;=)
Today, it's 10 minutes tease, 20 minutes blowjob, 25 minutes intercourse and 5 minutes of a guy jerking off. And there's your 60 minute scene.
Tom
 
goldenballs
Member

343 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 12:57PM
I'd love to watch a scene like that with 20 minutes of blowjob, but I can't think of many.
I've noticed pussy eating seems to almost be overtaking BJs these days for screen time.
A couple of minutes BJ followed by 5 or 6 minutes of pussy licking/fingering seems typical now.
And breaks in the scene for pussy eating/fingering seem to be more common while BJs mid scene seem to be less common.
I'm not in favour of that myself.
Dan
Senior Member

2056 Posts
6/07
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 5:18PM
Scene 1 in Rocco's True Anal Stories #9 is 55 minutes long. And one reviewer says that this scene is too short.
Whether a scene is too long or too short depends on how interesting the sex action in it is. That 55-minute scene was so interesting to watch because there were two ladies and many guys. But unlike in most scenes, only one of these ladies (Svetlana) gets the full no-holes-barred treatment from the guys at first. While the other lady (Suzan) pretends to be shy and doesn't participate in the action much.
After double-dicking Svetlana senseless, these guys bring shy Suzan into the action and get her to touch the balls of the guy who is banging Svetlana's nice ass. Out of Svetlana's ass this guy pops his big cock. And shy Suzan ends up doing an a2m on him right there and then.
Little by little these guys get shy Suzan to suck their cocks, which she seems to like more and more. The speed and the depth of her oral action on the guys picks up. While a couple of other guys continue to double-dick the crap out of Svetlana's pussy and ass in front of Suzan.
For Rocco's cock Suzan reaches out to suck. And suck him she does really good, while smiling and making eyes at him from below. Nice, big Suzan's ass Rocco shows off for the camera and proceeds to bang the crap out of her pussy in doggy with a passion and vigor seldom seen in porn movies. Two other guys join in the fun. And they all show some real passion between shy Suzan's pussy lips. Nice to see Suzan's sizeable natural boobs fly around in doggy like that.
Inside Suzan's asshole Rocco pops his cock in the RAC position. Some difficulty she seems to have with him in her asshole at first. But fuck her wide open he soon does with skill. And take him she does hard and fast all the way to the balls. Eventually these guys DP the crap out of the no-longer-shy Suzan cowgirl style. Have fun with her pussy and ass these guys really do. So much fun that her ass-guy pulls out and coats her gaping asshole with cum. Which Svetlana promptly cleans up with her mouth and tongue. Another guy coats Svetlana's gaping asshole. And Suzan cleans her up with her mouth. And like that they continue to trade back and forth until all the guys do their deed on the ladys' assholes.
A long scene this certainly was. But dull it certainly was not. Because there was good action, some erotic suspense, and a change of character for lady Suzan. The scene didn't just show similar action on and on. There was some development and progression of the shy Suzan's story. Which made the scene interesting to watch.

Edited by - Dan on 3/30/2009 5:24:19 PM

shellacsabotage
Member

57 Posts
2/09
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 6:10PM
I saw a scene with Lisa Ann & Johnny Sins online recently, and it was 45 minutes long! It took at least 20 minutes to get to the blowjob, and I had lost interest by this point...and losing interest in Lisa Ann is not easy.
jettyman
Member

No matter what size the tits are....play with them....
732 Posts
12/08
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 7:13PM
Just imagine life without fast-forward, at my age I would fall asleep. I like a bit of tease, oral, tit play, pussy fuck, tit play, anal, tit play, oral and facial, 25 to 30 max. If the scenes get any longer, we will all have right arm's like shot putter's...J.
Dubious_Leftovers
Senior Member

And on that fateful day, the hatred consumed me...
1423 Posts
3/09
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 7:38PM
Yeah. Comes down to attention spans.
I think it's been said by some science types (no sources at this juncture, just a simple "they say") that most people can only give full concentration on something for up to 20 mins. Longer than that and the mind starts to wander.
Seems to definitely apply to here. I think that the scenes that work at a longer duration are large orgy scenes, where the camera is capturing many different acts and people within one setting. The 'Outnumbered' series by Eric Everhard did this brilliantly, and kept my attention throughout the then longer than average scenes.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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12377 Posts
9/07
Posted - Mar 30 2009 : 11:33PM
Generally the problem isn't the length per se but the fact that a single position or act is focused on for such a long time. Seriously, sometimes the blow jobs are endless!
goldenballs
Member

343 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 31 2009 : 3:27PM
The one by the pool? lol
If it is, I had trouble watching this scene only last night.
I don't know if it was a buffering problem but the whole thing was very stop start, and I couldn't really skip forwards either, had to sit through the lengthy opening sequence.
It froze up so much I had to give up before they even got to the BJ!
Lengthy intros + computer problems = no fun
shellacsabotage
Member

57 Posts
2/09
Posted - Mar 31 2009 : 11:27PM
Yep, that was the one. I had the same issue.
goldenballs
Member

343 Posts
7/04
Posted - Apr 1 2009 : 6:20PM
I downloaded the Lisa Ann pool scene in the end, that worked fine.
Scene played perfectly, if only I could have made it to the end
I think as I get older, I need scenes to be shorter, not longer!
cross
Senior Member

I Love Beef Curtains!
1072 Posts
6/05
Posted - Apr 10 2009 : 6:59AM
...Watched 35 minutes of a scene last night, after a good build up of surfing the web looking at pics, was really enjoying the scene too.
It was dragging on a bit, couple of hot girls fooling around with each others assholes, hot stuff, so thought I'd pop my load.
After I came, curiosity took over, so I thought I'd skip ahead and see what I'd have to wait and see next time...
20 minutes more of the SAME thing, SAME positions, SAME hole etc
These scenes aren't mixing it up enough I'm thinking of hitting it looking at pics and giving buying DVDs
Yeah triple disc 4hour excursions are money earners, but can we really be bothered?????
Not me, not anymore I'm thinking
Edited by - cross on 4/10/2009 7:00:40 AM
 
Royal Tee
Member

665 Posts
6/07
Posted - Apr 10 2009 : 6:05PM
I don't mind long scenes. I just hate it when it 25 minutes of teasing and only 15 minutes of fucking. That's bullshit.
hammer
Member

222 Posts
12/02
Posted - Apr 10 2009 : 6:35PM
Personally I like longer scenes.This way the director doesn't have to fill the whole scene with frantic fucking.Jeeze if I had sex at the speed most scenes are shot I'd probably kill over from my heart bursting
sweatdancer
Member

18 Posts
12/08
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 9:30AM
Saw several of the best tease scenes ever on www.undergroundvideo.com. They were in a video of theres called "Dreams of Salome" It looks like this site specializes in tease and extreme fetish.
rski
Deactivated User

282 Posts
10/04
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 10:25AM
Too long is better than too short though. I have seen some scenes where the girl blows my mind but they only give her a couple of positions and its over, it drives me fucking insane! I would watch 4 hour scenes with some of these babes, complaining about length is crazy, especially when you can choose what part of the scene you like. Everyone has different tastes so they have to cater for that. For instance, it would really fuck me off if some guys said less tease please, as that’s the set up for me, very important.
Maybe its a question of giving the consumer more control of the scene and easier access to the parts they enjoy.
To me there is nothing like a marathon scene that shows the girl you like doing everything possible in that scenario, that is porn done well in my opinion.
john lyons
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1188 Posts
1/08
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 11:25AM
IMO, longer than 6 minutes to too long.
The perfect length, I think, is about 3-4 min. No longer.
JustforKicks
Member

15 Posts
4/09
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 11:33AM
I don't understand the problem? If the scene is to long just chapter skip to the next parts, that's what I do, I skip straight to the sex then later come back for the tease. Or sometimes I just watch the tease and come back for the sex no big deal.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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18634 Posts
4/08
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 3:32PM
Ah, but John, I have a feeling (from some of your previous posts) that you watch porn for a different reason than many "modern-day" porn watchers.
For you (feel free to correct me if I'm putting words in your mouth), it's all about the movie as a whole - with the sex incorporated into it in a logical fashion. You want to see a good movie, and not just a good scene.
For many people in this era where gonzo in so popular (like myself), porn serves only one purpose - to make us cum.
So, for example, when I watch porn, I'm already horny, and I just need something to make me blow my load. So I throw in the disc, fast forward to a really sexy part during the fucking, jerk with all my might for 15-20 minutes or so, explode all over myself, then take the headphones off and fall asleep.
So in that sense, if scenes are 3-4, or 6 minutes, it simply wouldn't accomplish the sole task of porn for many people (unless they cum quickly).
I'm by no means critiquing what porn means to you, I'm just saying that perhaps your ideal scene length should come with a disclaimer or something.
[edit: always with the typos]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 4/23/2009 3:34:02 PM
Stud_Rob
Member

703 Posts
4/09
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 3:39PM
I used to like scenes that were around 12 - 15 minutes but now I like the long ones which are around half an hour.
Aplus
Senior Member

1431 Posts
5/05
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 5:49PM
Well for me, it simply depends on what I see. 6 minutes simply (generally) isn't long enough for me. I like or prefer some kind of set-up or scenario, even if it's fairly basic, and that usually takes a few minutes itself. The ideal time used to be 12 minutes I was once told. And I've seen many 12 sex scenes that more then did the trick. I don't mind 30 or even 40 minute scenes as long as they flow nicely and isn't laced with too much repetitive or repeat footage. Watching some woman get fucked in cowgirl 3-4 different times is overkill sometimes, especially if the guy is pulling out every minute. Ideally my favorite scenes last about 20 minutes and no longer than about 25 minutes. Of course an excessive about of female eye candy and nakedness is more than welcome.



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