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| christianx Senior Member  1883 Posts 9/04 |  Posted - May 29 2015 : 4:46PMRashida Jones and two other feminist do-gooders did a documentary on teen porn in Miami. They used Hussie Models (Riley) and documented 5 porn chicks - Ava Taylor, Stella May, Ava Kelly, Brooklyn Daniels, and Lucy Tyler as they started and did scenes in their first few months in the business. Fascinating look into the Miami porn industry. Deals mostly with Stella as she interacts with her family and boyfriend and ultimately quits porn. Some great Facial Abuse clips and soundbites, and some classic male porn dude snippets too. Overall the movie is good times all around. But probably doesn't shine a very nice light for our industry. There is no easier industry to attack in this country than porno. [Link] |
| The Ghost of Cal Jammer Senior Member 2207 Posts 7/09 | Posted - May 29 2015 : 10:19PM [Link] |
| youngrphoto Senior Member 3539 Posts 3/14 | Posted - May 29 2015 : 10:38PM Review: ‘Hot Girls Wanted,’ About the Choices Actresses in Pornography Make New York Times By MIKE HALE MAY 27, 2015 “Hot Girls Wanted” is a documentary with a provocative subject and title but an uncertain tone that vacillates between weary outrage and motherly concern. Hanging out with young women — from 18 to their early 20s — who have chosen to work in pornography, the directors Jill Bauer and Ronna Gradus and the writer Brittany Huckabee face a challenge: respecting the right of their subjects to make the choices they do while abhorring those decisions. The resulting film, which played at Sundance this year and has its commercial premiere on Netflix on Friday, doesn’t really make a serious attempt to reconcile those viewpoints. It’s a reality-television-style slice of life, using unattributed statistics about online pornography viewership and Twitter screen shots for topicality and awkward scenes of one woman’s visits home for emotion. Its default mode is twangy sentimentality, cued by the plaintive songs on the soundtrack (one of them performed in part by the actress Rashida Jones, a producer of the film). But the scenes of a group of teenage and 20-something women sharing a featureless suburban house in Florida, watched over by an apparently amiable, eerily blank young talent agent who is a combination of concierge and pimp, are authentic and effective — banal, sad, funny and weird. The camera lingers on bare floors dotted with open suitcases and spindly bedside tables holding jar candles and boxes of Walgreens feminine douches, trying to enforce a sense of anomie and innocence lost, but the filmmakers didn’t have to bother. The pathos is right on the surface, as the women stroke their tiny dogs and discuss money, independence and the absolute necessity of escaping their parents. “Hot Girls Wanted” traces a narrative path from eager expectation to jaded cynicism — it’s the old Hollywood starlet story — as we learn that most of the women experience a compressed career of a few months in the “amateur” pornography field before being pushed aside by new arrivals. The scarier, even more callous side of the business appears in due course as the women sign on for niche videos to keep the checks coming in. It is, however, made clear that the work is still performance, distasteful and upsetting as it might be for the female performers. There’s an interesting story about class and the American economy in “Hot Girls Wanted,” even if it’s not the story the filmmakers want to focus on: how the women who answer “must be 18” Craigslist ads say they prefer what they’re doing, at least at first, to the dead-end jobs available in their hometowns. As Rachel, an 18-year-old from Oswego, Ill., says in her Miami living room after a shoot: “Are you kidding me? I made $900 in five hours. I’m going to go home and make $8.25 an hour? No. No no no no.” [Link] |
| christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04 | Posted - May 30 2015 : 12:56AM [Link] |
| Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11 | Posted - May 31 2015 : 7:50PM Other reviews critical of Hot Girls Wanted that are worth a read IMO: http://www.vice.com/read/porn-documentary-hot-girls-wanted-exploits-women-just-like-the-adult-industry-456 http://www.literaryramblings.com/hot-girls-wanted-documentary-or-click-baiting I assume in the next days we'll get to read also opinions from Dr.Chauntelle, TRPWL etc. ... [Link] |
| Quorrl Senior Member 2835 Posts 3/11 | Posted - May 31 2015 : 8:47PM |
| ObiBong Senior Member 1162 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jun 1 2015 : 4:49AM *I liked the puppy. *I liked Lucy Tyler and despite still not watching much porn these days, I am now seeking out some of her scenes. Surely not the intended effect. *Like pretty much every porn documentary (and most documentaries period), for people who already know an above-average amount about the subject industry, you're not going to learn anything. The only value here is a lot of what amounts to candid BTS footage, but that's something. *The filmmakers are very, um, judicious in the questions they choose to ask and not ask, to address and not address. The holes in the Stella May narrative are puzzling. Why not tell us why she was so desperate to leave home when the portrayal they give of that home life is so appealing? If her dad doesn't know about the porn, what did he think the cameras following her around were about? You know you're not getting the full story. *Can't believe Christian didn't note the multiple suitcase shots. *Note: The name of the flick is actually "Hot Girls Wanted" if you're searching for it on Netflix. [Link] |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | Posted - Jun 1 2015 : 6:13AM [Link] |
fu_q  All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 2 2015 : 6:20AM Snore... [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 11:34AM 'Much of the criticism has focused on the film's place in a tradition of sensationalising the lives of sex workers and porn performers. Many have also questioned why the media is speaking for them, rather than supporting sex workers to produce their own content. And finally there's been criticism over the way films so often frame sex workers as victims coerced into an industry they don't understand. Instead of obsessing over sex, critics have called for a focus on issues that aren't so easily sensationalised—such as workers' rights and salary protection. They also highlight the wider failure to ask larger questions about what porn says about culture, not just women.' [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 12:02PM [Link] |
| fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 12:31PM All we need is a Sarah McLachlan song to accompany our misguidedly useless anger and woe, and we'll be set...
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| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 12:43PM Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/3/2015 12:46:50 PM [Link] |
| SP_Love Senior Member "Freaky Deakies Need Love Too" 1181 Posts 2/11 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:07PM I didn't see it as a hit piece as it just showed the experiences of 4 amateur girls which obviously does not apply to all female adult performers. The doc provided some statistics such as in 2014 "(insert noun here) abuse" sites had over 60 million combined hits per month (more hits than nfl.com, nba.com, hotwire.com, cbs.com, fortune.com, disney.com & nbcnews.com) My first (and my last) time watching one of these scenes just out of curiosity was the one with Belle Knox (aka The Duke Porn Star). It was the least sexiest porn I've ever viewed in my life so seeing these stats kind of made me go..."hmmm?" These girls are adults, they receive their payment and they make their own choices. With that being said I just personally don't get how so many of us get off of someone else's unwanted pain and humiliation. "It takes courage to enjoy it: the hardcore and gentle...Big Time Sensuality!" [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:22PM [Link] |
| SP_Love Senior Member "Freaky Deakies Need Love Too" 1181 Posts 2/11 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:28PM 60,000,000 of anything is a lot. "It takes courage to enjoy it: the hardcore and gentle...Big Time Sensuality!" [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:29PM I guess I'll watch this doc tonight with a martini. I am curious as to how they cite their sources, at least. Where is the 60 million stat from, for example? Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/3/2015 1:30:45 PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:31PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:32PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 6/3/2015 1:32:24 PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:37PM [Link] |
| SP_Love Senior Member "Freaky Deakies Need Love Too" 1181 Posts 2/11 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:37PM I don't know who or what their source is. It had not occurred to me until now that a good amount of that figure could be just curious porn surfers (such as myself). Good point. Here's another one: websites don't operate for free and they don't stick around for long without a great number of supporters. "It takes courage to enjoy it: the hardcore and gentle...Big Time Sensuality!" [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:40PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 6/3/2015 1:43:24 PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:42PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:43PM Bleh. Edited to delete that racist FA tweet. We don't need it here. :) Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/3/2015 1:47:27 PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:48PM Jacco [Link] |
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| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:55PM [Link] |
| fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 1:58PM ...and the simple-minded who like to feed their need for outrage and empty despair with tidy and canned "social causes"... (It beckons the question: Who's really exploiting those girls, after all?) Edited by - fu_q on 6/3/2015 2:07:06 PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 8:01PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 10:00PM [Link] |
| fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Jun 3 2015 : 11:38PM [Link] |
| Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 1:14AM [Link] |
| Mason Member 872 Posts 7/02 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 1:24AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 10:33AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 2:24PM |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 3:01PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 3:28PM Jacco [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 3:52PM Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/4/2015 3:52:44 PM [Link] |
| Sybarite2006 Member 35 Posts 5/15 | Posted - Jun 4 2015 : 4:15PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Jun 5 2015 : 2:40PM Jacco [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 10:59AM "The viewers' motives in each case are, of course, supposed to be different. Porn viewers watch forced blowjobs because they get off on the idea of hurting women. The viewers of the documentary, on the other hand, get off on empathy. [...] "The most viscerally abusive scene in the film is not forced blowjobs or facial abuse, but the dramatic intervention climax. Sitting on her couch at home, Tressa's disapproving mother and her disapproving boyfriend gang up on her, demanding to know why she hasn't quit porn." [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 3:28PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 4:12PM For someone who is vehemently against capitalism, a pretty steep price, no? Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 6/7/2015 4:17:57 PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Jun 7 2015 : 7:09PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 8 2015 : 8:46AM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 4:59AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 6:34AM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 2:50PM [Link] |
| N00dlesDaddy Senior Member Layla...got me on my knees... 1793 Posts 7/13 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 3:22PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 5:20PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 5:20PM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Jun 9 2015 : 10:48PM Watching this movie, it made me understand even moreso how/why youg girls turn to porn. Nice to see a different take instead of the usual abuse, stripper/hooker wanting to make more money, lost child running away from home type senerios we've seen many times before. The most interesting part of the doc was the difference between pro-am and "regular" pornstars. It seems most "regular" pornstars agents take the girls in with the intent of a long career as possible. Pro-am seems to promote short careers. I guess in pro-am new girls are the big draw. Edited by - draxxx on 6/9/2015 10:49:21 PM [Link] |
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