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| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | |
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| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | I would consider the filmmaker who did Chameleon: Not the Sequel more of an 'artist' than the guy who produced Adventures of Buttman but that's all a matter of taste. Similarly, how anyone could refer to Fuck Slaves 2 or Annette Schwarz is Slutwoman as generic is beyond me. To say Silvera, who directed the amazing Kink, is hit and miss is to state the obvious considering the production rate that modern porn demands. Stagliano has a fair number hits and misses in his filmography as well, you have to judge an artist (or 'craftsman') by their best not their worst. None of these films match your description of the typical 'interview and fuck' gonzo which is basically a style ripped off of Stagliano anyway. |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | Modern producer aren't artist any more so than the guy who install the pistons in engines on a Ford assembly line. He is a technician. Art touches us on the human level, some of the sex filmed in the seventy's were on that level. It was "sex on camera", beautiful bodies doing sexy things. It wasn't a facsimile as we have today. Any authenticity today is provide by our imagination. I believe that given a more relaxed on set atmosphere, and the director being less intrusive most healthy male could preform a sex scene on camera. The difficulty is performing "porn" on camera. Viagra allowed force to replace lust and athleticism to replace passion. Edited by - ntfighter on 12/19/2008 5:32:41 AM |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 |
On the other hand, a great many modern porn directors make very clear that they are NOT artists. Again, this is not taking into consideration whether or not I personally like their work, but it's all relative. When a person tells me they're an artist, I tend to examine their work through the lens of aesthetics to determine whether or not I like it. When a person simply thinks of themself as a craftsman, I look at their work for proficiency in their craft and their ability to create a satisfactory product. |
| Knuckle Kids Deactivated User 287 Posts 4/08 |
As far as Stagliano's offerings are concerned I never watched many, as Angela Summers only appeared in a few of them. I wouldn't use the term artist or craftsman either as it doesn't do the man justice! I would call him a visionary. I also liked the fact that he sank alot of cash into a show in Vegas, if for no other reason than his rational of "being able to take his daughter to work with him" |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 |
That said, all the fake female moaning and screeching and all the incredibly scripted male dialogue like "suck my dick, baby" is so obviously faked it's embarrassing. Porn doesn't move me because I see no real humanity in it. I only see a very obvious form of performance, and not a very successful one.
I would strongly recommend checking out The Awakening by Paul Thomas and even more so, The Last Rose by David Stanley. Both movies contain a fair amount of truly emotional and thus extremely powerful sexual encounters. |
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| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | I'll take a look at this movie: The Awakening by Paul Thomas, but I fear I will be left cold by the director insistence on showing the entire genitalia of the participants in every shot. In medium and long shots the actor will comport themselves in unnatural position to achieve the director goals. There is rarely anything beautiful in these position. The director is not interested in the curve of the hips, the swell of the breast, He's shooting porn dammit! Case in point: lots of movies feature women with the most maddening asses and amazing bodies, but the cameras shot is so tight on the ass that all perspective is loss. All that is captured are moving butt cheeks, sometimes one cheek at a time. Its a dogs-eye view. It's not the way we would admire a women with a lovely ass in the real world. This is porn being shot and directed by technicians. The guy who put in my cable isn't an artist, unless he added something of his humanity to the equation, gave me multi colored cables braided in an interesting pattern. As I mentioned Imho people are wired to respond to sexual situation as an observer/voyeur, but the cues that we would respond too are missing. Porn is analogous to watching a WWE wrestling. Edited by - ntfighter on 12/19/2008 2:25:22 PM |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 |
There were a number of avant garde short films made in the late 60s/early 70s which were nothing but a series of ECUs of details of the body while engaged in sex. They were beautiful and truly did sensualize the human body and all all of its parts. I hate close-ups. I really don't feel they do anything for the scene. I'd much rather watch faces and minor body movements than repetitive shots of dicks going into pussies. There's nothing in that. An expressive face is so much more powerful than zit covered ass cheeks. As for The Awakening, I'll admit that it sadly does not manage to get away from all the porn conventions and a number of sex scenes are shot in a very standard typical porn way. However, there are other times in the film when Thomas is truly able to break free and really makes his characters feel human while they are screwing. Like him and his films or not, but I'd say that's an accomplishment. Edited by - john lyons on 12/19/2008 3:00:29 PM |
| lilmissmackenzeepierce Senior Member 1148 Posts 10/07 | "im the girl your mother warned you about" |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 |
Have you ever needed a cup of coffee to get yourself up in the morning (not hard, awake)? Well it's the same thing here. It has nothing to do with whether or not the person enjoys doing it, but we all need an energy boost from time to time. |
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| lilmissmackenzeepierce Senior Member 1148 Posts 10/07 |
"im the girl your mother warned you about" |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 |
I agree with you though that a better attitude on set and more attention to sensuality would improve things all around. Bill Landis (aka Bobby Spector) said that the best set he ever worked on was Gerard Damiano's, who kept things relaxed and free, but also produced some of the best films of the 70s and 80s. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/20/2008 4:52:38 AM |
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| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | The difference is the kind of male that was being sought, and the males who are in demand now. The former stud was sexually aroused and able to perform in a real world application, the latter unaroused but tumescent could perform with a women or a tree with equal lack of passion. Yes its difficult to be a porn star, there's no pleasure or fun in it. Viagra has been a boon to the fans and to the business overall. We most likely would not have modern porn without it. The #1 reason not to do porn today is that if anyone is enjoying the experience it is purely by accident. |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | |
| ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07 | This is something has always given me pause, this idea that there is a requirment to stay hard for long periods of time. I don't get it. I don't presume to know all the problem that might arise on a porn set, but this one Seems to be a problem created by porn movie making culture. These guys are supposed to Shoot "Gonzo" minimum everything, basically it's people fucking. Maximum time from penetration to cessation, Add normal and expected breaks for the participants and techs. Everything else is added by the "Man" I'd love it if producers, whenever possible, shot within the limits of human sexuality, or that there was just one or two who would give it a try. Guys having to needle their dick to meet the demands. Talk about getting a woody. Their dicks are just out there by itself, waving around. That's fucked up right there. |
| Analholic New Member 3 Posts 9/08 | Initially, I didn't join the site to write on its Blog. I'm blogged out from writing on other sites of various interest. Most important, I feel compelled to comment on this topic. I'd like to piggyback and/or focus on the subscription male enhancement pill portion of this discussion. I have several genuine friends in the Adult Entertainment Industry, performers, producers and directors. In the early days of Porn, 60s, 70s, actors had fluffers to keep them erect. For younger audiences that don't know. Fluffers were girls (often non performers) that were paid by the studio to use their oral skills to keep a male performer erect before he went in front of the camera to perform. An aside, One of Porn Legend Sinnamon early sex scenes was as a fluffer for an early Wall to Wall, Gang Bang. I forgot the actress name. She broke Spontaneous Ecstasy Record. You can hear the director yelling, "Sinnamon You're not supposed to make the guys cum". Every guy Sinnamon Fluffed she made them cum. I must've CUM everytime Sinnamon made one of her patrons CUM. Furthermore, during the 60s and 70s studios had Stunt Cocks. The Stunt Cock was a Stand In for the male performer in the event he couldn't get wood. The scene was generally shot with close ups of the torso in and out motion, not the Stunt Cock face. Male performers of that era were not under the competitive pressures they are today. Meaning, financial, talent, and production competition amongst various studios. Noted studios of the era weren't cranking out several releases every month compared to today. Film production was more expensive. Many people writing on this blog are under the impression its EASY to be a MALE Porn Star. It emphatically is not. When the Klieg Lights Shine and the camera(s) roll. You must be able to get wood on cue, (within five minutes tops) many people on set, various distractions, people talking on set, laughing and joking, the director starting and stopping at various times for whatever reason, to answer his/her cell phone, give additional direction to performers. Albeit, there may not be any chemistry between you and your female partner. Your partner may be uncooperative to even give you a hand job if you're experiencing wood problems. In 1999, I had the distinct honor, and pleasure of meeting Legendary Male Performer TT Boy when he filmed Black Street Hookers 5 & 6 in Washington D.C. Many are unaware Black Street Hookers in the early days was shot with real prostitutes and porn actresses were used when TT Boy couldn't get prostitutes in the selected city and state he visited to perform on camera. The two (2) misguided reviews written on Black Street Hookers 5 & 6 are as wrong as 2 left shoes. I met TT Boy at the 55 Club (a gentleman's club) next door to the Adult Video Store I owned with partners, In & Out Video. Fast forwarding to make my point. Upon entering 55 Club, TT Boy was immediately recognized by his male fan base. Everybody that recognized him ran up to TT Boy giving him Props and telling him how much they enjoyed his work. Just about everyone quipped they could perform on film the same as him. All except one person (Yours Truely) asked him if they could be in his movie. There were about nine (9) to twelve (12) guys standing around talking to TT Boy trying to get in his movie. TT Boy said, "You want to be in my movie. You have to be able to get your Dicks Hard." TT Boy instructed them to get their Dicks Hard. Everyone had a puzzled look on their faces. All the guys stated in unison, "What do you mean get my Dick Hard. You're Crazy. There aren't any women around. Disturbed Voices saying they weren't on set". "We are not allowed to touch the EXOTIC DANCERS". "What the Hell do you mean get our Dicks Hard". TT Boy looked at them again with a knowing look and Shit Eating Grin. Went into a Zone for about 3-5 seconds. TT Boy said, "You Mother Fuckers want to be in my movies this is what you've got to be able to do". Within 3-5 seconds of being in his Zone Grabbing the Front of His Pants, Cock Rock Hard and Fully Erect. The guys were Shouting Oh Shit, WTF!!!!!!! How in the Fuck did you do that?! They were in Awe. TT Boy stated again, "You Mother Fuckers want to be in my movies this is what you've got to be able to do, get wood when I tell you to do it". All the guys said, "fuck that I can't do that". Lesson Learned!!!!!!!!! Porn isn't Fucking in the privacy of your Bedroom with your girlfriend. Most of the Renowned Male Porn Performers have the SEX DRIVE of a RAPIST. For lack of a better word. Meaning, they have higher levels of testosterone than normal men. Trade Secret, TOP MALE PERFORMERS have very strong Pubococcygeus Muscles built by Kegal Exercises. Strong Pubococcygeus Muscles allow them to achieve erections at will by visualizing technique, (Zoning) and pumping blood into the penis via Kegals. Sustain erections for longer periods of time, control when they ejaculate. Ability to cut off the flow of ejaculation at will. Just like tapping a brake to stop your car. Strong Pubococcygeus Muscles give the Male Performer Total Control over his body from the benefit of stronger ROCK HARD erections. Credit where its due. Thanks fo Xavier Hollander of Playboy Magazine exposing this Trade Secret over twenty (20) years ago in her Playboy Column. I've been doing Kegals for Eleven Years. I have complete control over my body. Achieving Erections are 100% Mental. If you think about not having an erection while trying to perform, chances are you will not get wood. The Great Wallenda of The Flying Wallenda Family didn't Fall to his Death until he thought about Falling. Every male would like to believe they can perform in adult entertainment movies. The reality, most cannot, even with Viagra and Cialis. There are many reasons for erectile dysfunction. Psychological / Mental, lack of sleep, depression, anxiety Hormonal, testoterone Vascular, blood flow Viagra and Cialis only take care of blood flow addressing the vascular penile dysfunction. Both are nothing more than Blood Thinners. Abuse of either can cause major, major health issues. A safer alternative is a healthy lifestyle regular exercise and eating habits supplimented with natural herbs used everyday or several times a week to combat, as well, correct Mental Stress, Hormonal, and Vascular dysfunction. Not the Over The Counter Garbage they sell on TV. My point of contention, Yes there is the Viagra / Cialis generation in Adult Entertainment. Genuine performers use it little if at all. Again, there are safer alternatives Natural Herbs that work better and are safer for ones health and well being. Viagra nor Cialis will make a weak performer the next Rocco Siffredi or TT Boy. Edited by - Analholic on 12/29/2008 12:13:40 AM |
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| xxaru Member 128 Posts 6/07 | Getting hard isn’t a problem now with all the chemical enhancements available. Although I’d hate to get to the point that I needed Viagra/injections just to get it up. In my experience, the problems usually have to deal with being able to cum on cue. There’s nothing worse than having everyone waiting around on set watching the clock, while waiting for the guy to cum. |
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| RFrog Member 396 Posts 10/07 | 2. Fear of STDs. I don't work well with condoms. 3. Unplanned pregnancy. There's always the What If. Also, porn as a career?! No thanks. I'd get burned out. But an occasional job, just for fun? Sure. If a girlfriend wanted to make some money and she twisted my arm, then maybe I would. It would be kind of thrilling. |
| Analholic New Member 3 Posts 9/08 | Clarification,there were Naked Women performing on stage at Club 55. That would've been his stimulus TT Boy definitely has a Predilection for Ethnic Women. Certain he was already aroused eye-balling the women on stage while talking to us and began his Kegal Exercises which pumps blood into Corpora Cavernosa, the main blood holding chamber of the penis. This is where 90% of all blood is retained each and every time we gain an erection. The Corpus Spongiosum is the chamber used mainly when we urinate and ejaculate. High and/or low levels of Testosterone has everything to do with Libido,(Sex Drive). Medically it has been proven Serial Rapist have abnormally High Testosterone Levels, perhaps twice as high as normal men. Clinically when men complain about their lack of interest in sex or being unable to perform. Physicians will check the testosterone levels. If the levels are sufficiently low they can be treated with testosterone injections or patches. I have been aroused and erect after I learned to do Kegals without physically touching a women, being in the same room with a women. Without aid of any Erectile Dysfunction medication. Which I don't condone. In my fifties I can get erect just thinking about sex using visualization technique and Kegals in under one minute. In my fifties, I still Pitch a Tent every morning. What kills libido, (sex drive) excessive masturbation to Porn. Do I need to clarify?! Unhealthy living, stress, poor nutrition, medical reasons. There are Foods, Vitamins and Natural Herbs that replenish the body, as well, aid in the production of semen. A Nutritionist can provide more finite detail. I've talked to women, looked at women, fantasized about women in public on the subway, at work, walking down the street, every situation imaginable without touching them fully aroused with a Hard On. That my Friend is indeed Sex Drive and High Testosterone Levels. TT Boy being able to get erect at will is not Rare nor Unique. It is conditioning and Technique. The Penis is a Muscle. If you build that Muscle learning proper conditioning methods and technique you will be able to get wood at will, control your ejaculation, and prolong intercourse. If you haven't condition yourself to run a marathon all you'll ever do is be able to sprint. Every male experience Erectile Dysfunction at some point in their lives. Again, Erections are 100% Psychological. Yes, there is a Culture in Adult Cinema today that permeate the use of Erectile Dysfunction stimulents to perform. All performers aren't dependant on them. The same as all performers don't do Kegal Exercise and live healthy lives. Addressing a few private emails I've gotten on this subject. I Do Not recommend any Natural Herbs, Vitamins to anyone in Private or Online for Erection Health Maintenance. I'm not a Physician. There's always the tendency for abuse. Most important, what work for me or someone else may not work for you. Check with a Health Practitioner or Herbologist in your locale Anyone wishing to test their Pubococcygeus Muscles. Get Erect, however you do it. Place a wet washcloth on the shaft of your penis and try to bounce it up and down. If you can bounce it up and down that's a good indication your Pubococcygeus Muscles are strong. If you cannot bounce a wet washcloth on the shaft of your penis that is an indication your Pubococcygeus Muscles are weak. I do Super Kegals twice a week along with a four (4) hour regimen of normal Kegals every other day. I perform Super Kegals with Blue Jeans folded across the shaft of my penis, 10 Reps, three Sets. To see Strong Pubococcygeus Muscles at work: See 'Buttman Bendover Brazilian Babes 1'. The 2nd scene with Katia, Rocco, and Felipe at Corcavado. At the house Katia sets on Rocco's lap fondling him and the scene after that Rocco is aroused using the strength of his Pubococcygeus Muscles to move his shaft back and forth and side ways. Within a later scene Katia is between Rocco's legs. Rocco is fully erect telling Katia to "come hear" moving his Penis back and forth with his Pubococcygeus Muscles. You can see Filipe trying to do them. He has no success in trying. Trust this helps to all that inquired. |
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