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flow
Member


31 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 7 2004 : 5:37AM
Gentlemen:
I want to discuss a problem which makes me really mad, upset and disappointed:
1. The videographer films too near
2. Most of the times one only sees a part of the action barely the whole action.
Take one example: "double Decker 4 from Zero Tolerance. Eve Lawrence together with Vickie Powell. NOnsense to film with two girls, the result is that one can either see right nor the other. Eve is one of the cutiest girls ever. Most of the times you see two genitals slipping in and out. Very rare you can see her entire body (worth to see!!!!) If you have the chance you see her wonderful body for few seconds, the camera goes to her face, than again to her pussy and remains there lot of time. Than you will see her face etc. etc.
Why we look at porn movies? To see dicks and pussies doing their work or is it the actress we want to see with bodies to die for, figures we don't have at home, right! Why don't respect these so called videographers the rights of their customers.
See a film with Pandora Dreams or Katja Kassin, all the same crap, the film contains close-ups most of the times. The whole body is not important only the genitals.
What do you think, about starting a campaign against lousy videographing.

Topic Moved by - saki on Aug 13 2004

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Aug 7 2004 : 6:54AM
I also cant' stand too much close-ups, I want to see more full body shots. Some directors don't get that part and think we fans only want to see close-ups. In my opinion they should all take lessons from Stagliano on how to work a camera the right way like get all the right angles.
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Aug 7 2004 : 9:10AM
A "campaign against", and "rights of the customers"?

How about voting with your wallet?

DenverDon

Pornochicks
Member

www.vickiepowell.com
61 Posts
3/04
Posted - Aug 13 2004 : 5:55AM
I think a campaign against lousy camera work is a minimum. She should look back at history and see what various British Kings did against people that performed in a sub-standard maner - beheading.

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ogulame
Member

25 Posts
8/04
Posted - Aug 13 2004 : 1:14PM
I have to agree, full body shots are much more appealing, otherwise they should just clip and paste the same scene a thousand times since a lot of closeups look the same. It's the full shot that makes it different and worth it.

But yeah, it would help to pay with your dollar, but u generally have to see it first to know if there aren't full body shots so that doesn't work.

 
neondon
Member

134 Posts
5/04
Posted - Aug 13 2004 : 1:52PM
I will pay $2-$3 for a rental. If it is too close too much, there will not be another $30 -$30 coming.
mango
Member

80 Posts
12/02
Posted - Aug 13 2004 : 4:17PM
I have posted several comments about bad videography here. I am glad you have noticed this as well.

Photography 101 has not been taken by these guys who shoot porn, except for PRIVATE and clones, those dudes for some reason that I have not figured out, can't do, or are unwilling to do gonzo.

I have received a couple of replies that it costs too much money etc, but this is a total joke. A wide angle lens up close to a face distorts the facial features and looks ugly. This is basic photography.
But these so called "directors" with a bare bulb light and a hand held vidcam have about the same idea of movie making as an insurance agent strolling around the zoo. It really does not cost much to add a soft+box to the lights, back up with the wide angle to give views of the entire scene, and then shoot the close+up of the face from afar with a flattering short telephoto. Two cameras and some editing can't possibly break the budget.

They shoot upside down heads which gets the brain nauseous,
put the camera and her butt at dog eye level and leave it there, which makes the neck get a cramp. They make a mistake in thinking that erotic stoke material is all about the hours of in-and-out closeup insertion that they can capture. Every hole looks the same after awhile. If they need 4 different scenes for a flick, each will be a total clone of one another, in every way. You can set your watch by the timing.

THE TOTAL MORON PORN DIRECTOR GIVES US DISEMBODIED DICKS, PLUGGING ANONYMOUS HOLES WITH WIDE ANGLE "FACIALS". They never care to think eroticaly, but just easy acrobatics. The director needs some personal creativity that he has to go to the line with, and that may expose him or her. I think they are afraid of that and it reveals a kind of prudishness, which they will deny, but is also the center of the problem, I think.

A good example of a really bad director is Chico Wang and his "Discharges", as he calls them. He admitted in a thread here that he really does not have a perverted or pornographic mind. He is a lousey photographer, has no erotic creativity, never goes out on a personal limb, and essentially is left to imitate others, and do sequels to the material that others have paved the way for. How this dude got hired to help Anabolic/Diabolic stay above water is beyond me. Good Luck, Chico.

There was a porn series in the 70-80s called THE COLLECTION. 8mm loops that were about 5 minutes each. They had the basics of all erotic material.

1.Setup
2.Sex
3.Shock
4.Reaction
5.Beauty

They are classics.
It is very possible to do porn with a low budget but it takes some talent and brains. If you keep paying for how many different dicks can be observed pushing into one anonymous hole you will keep getting that kind of stuff.

Kahn Tusion of Anabolic gave an interview with ROG of Rogs Reviews where he described his distillation of porn as revealing a little bit of shame. I agree, with the Supreme Court of the United States in its wise opinion that while they can't describe pornography exactly they know it when the see it.

Edited by - mango on 8/13/2004 4:38:15 PM

Edited by - mango on 8/13/2004 4:49:21 PM




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