I've ordered from them before. The quality varies a lot. Some of the stuff is pure crap in terms of quality and i'm surprised he can get away with selling such low quality stuff. Some of it is good. The rest is made with a TV DVD recorder and then duplicated via a copier. Yet they charge up to $25 for some DVDs I believe. Unless they lowered the price.

When you use the form to send them an email they have this somewhat rude notice that all the excessive emails must stop.

They have a lot of stuff that's impossible to find, but that's about all.

First Class and GGG tried forever to get them to stop selling their videos and they did, but then they had a big sale on them before they stopped doing so. It was a customer email mailing list.

Then they claimed to OWN the copyrights to half a dozen MFX titles. Uh huh. The same titles are sold by both MFX and First Class. I THINK First Class licensed some movies from MFX to sell in europe. I sure hope so, anyone know? Some old MFX releases are still sold by First Class in Europe.

I don't see how you can call them a total scam. Perhaps you are outside the USA and your DVDs were lost or held by customs? That happens all the time. I'd ask them to just resend or give you a refund if he won't.

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I placed an order for about 12 Subway DVDs on the website. This guy RZ then emailed me saying that he was "not willing" to charge my credit card, but might be willing to trade the DVDs to me for American DVDs. I thought this was quite strange, but I offered to give him his choice of hundreds of Red Light District, Platinum X, Private, Sineplex, Sinsational, Anabolic, Evil Angel, and other DVDs, most new in their boxes with shrink-wrap still on. He wrote back and rejected this offer, told me to "scram" and never come to his website again (???), and for no reason virtually screamed at me for writing him "overly long" emails (even though my emails were 3 to 5 sentences at most. Gosh this guy has a short attention span). Then, he apparently changed his mind, and he wrote back saying that he would send me the videos I had ordered in exchange for some Evil Angel DVDs. I agreed to this, but considering how aggressive, eratic, and down-right crazy sounding his emails had been thus far, I said that although I was glad to go ahead with the trade, I was a little apprehensive that if I shipped everything first (constituting a few hundred bucks worth of DVDs) there would be nothing to stop him never sending me mine. THus I proposed mailing him one Evil Angel DVD (a Jules Jordan), having him mail me one I had ordered, and once I received this I would immediately mail out all the other Evil Angel DVDs. If he didn't want to go to this bother, I told him that the easier and better option (which I would strongly prefer) would be for him to simply charge my credit card, which is what I had tried to get him to do in the first place.

He then, although my email had onloy been one short paragraph, RZ replied, "Would you please stop sending all of these long emails. I am not interested anymore. I have a business to run."

I replied asking why, and reiterating that I would be glad for him to charge my credit card (like most websites do), and he replied:

"RIGHT RIGHT, I could tell you were a trouble maker
from day one.
I already have ober 10,000 customers.
and they dont send a zillion emails either
please go bother someone else."

What in the world is up with this RZ guy? He seems like a total paranoid and Schizophrenic freak! He claims to run a professional website but refuses to charge credit cards and prefers to "trade." However, he is totally unwilling to receive any email longer than one sentence as part of negotiating this trade. I tried to give him a few hundred bucks worth of business, but all that I got in exchange was nasty emails from him.

At any rate, sorry to go on so long (my emails to RZ, were 1/20th of this length), but I just have never been treated this badly and unprofessionally by any business in my life before, and I feel the need to tell people about this. What gives?

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Do they sell original DVDs? I'd suggest any site which sells copies and isn't clear about it is inviting consideration in the unflattering terms that mediasmarts2 suggests.

The mere fact that they wouldn't just fill mediasmarts2 order unequivocally tells its own story.

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 2/12/2007 12:32:27 PM

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If they're DVD-R then 99% of the time they are copies. You'd think people would know this, but then again some people don't know what a DVD-R is. You'd also have to be crazy to expect retail Japanese and foreign releases for $10-$15. I'm not talking about us releases of foreign titles.

I worded a few things wrong. I really meant that it is possible for some company to have sent out a package and had it get lost in the mail or held by customs. This happens all the time and it's wrong to call any company a SCAM when this happens. Although the poster did not do this. Most companies would resend or offer a refund.

I don't even know why I said "I don't know how you can call them a total scam"!!

They've been up and running for years and i'd imagine if they had that many problems they'd be down. These days it's hard to rip off customers non-stop due to chargebacks and all that. Or maybe it is?

In my honest opinion, anyone selling crappy TV recorded movies at $25 is a rip-off artist, plain and simple. It costs them 50 cents per disc plus the work.

The guy is a jerk, sure sounds like it. I hardly doubt this guy has 10,000 regular customers. And this is most likely a one man operation. I can't believe anyone would treat a potential customer like that..

Oh and another thing. What's happen about lovelot is they also were trying to claim that SG was selling movies that THEY own the rights to. I don't know who to believe..

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i used to get alot of stuff from them, and never had a problem.

then one time i order like 8 dvds, and it was almost 3 weeks and i still did not have my dvds.

so i sent "rz" an e-mail, and he told me my dvds had been sent. i did get my dvds in the mail, but i just didn't like rz's "tone", in the way he answered me.

i guess dealing with lovelot is still "hit or miss".

lovelot.com also has something on their "mail order" section that states "all mail orders have been stopped, we are not accepting new mail order customers".

its just too much of a hassel dealing with lovelot nowadays.

its a shame because they have some really hard to find stuff.

but i live in nyc, so anything lovelot.com has to sell, i can walk into a store and buy, with no worries about if im being ripped off or not.

by the way lovelot.com still does (i think) sell "ggg titles.

be patient though. you still might get your dvds.

it took more than 3 weeks for me to get mine.

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But I do feel that while, yes, people should be a little more streetwise about their internet shopping, there will be a lot of customers who aren't savvy enough to put two and two together about the too-good-to-be-true prices, the crappy web design and the highly original approach to customer services, and these customers need to be protected from a site that leaves out that crucial piece of information about the provenance of their unusually cheap movies.

The other side of it is - given the products on sale, how likely are unhappy customers to complain to the banks in sufficient numbers to have card processing facilities taken away from Lovelot? Can you inmagine it: "Dear Mr Visa, please get me my money back because this guy didn't send me the pirate scat videos I ordered..."

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on 2/13/2007 12:54:19 PM

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Hi, just wanted to let you know new
DVDs have been added, and the sale is still on, but
the Sale will not continue too much longer.
Thank You for your time!
Regards

Shop Software (Lovelot)

but
the Sale will not continue too much longer.

wonder what that means......

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i m in germany

after ordered them on 21th february. i wrote a few days after an email if the order arrived and the dvds have been send?

NO RESPOND.

today its the 21th march the dvd s still didnt arrive. i wrote email to ask what is going on.

his respond

oh, everyone got thier orders.
I will send it again.
Regards
RZ

I CANT BELIEVE
so he didnt even send them out i ve been waiting 1 month now

Edited by - hotshot on 3/22/2007 2:19:55 AM

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I ordered a couple of titles from him like 3 years ago and after 3-4 weeks, I emailed him asking about my order. Never got a response to any of my emails. The like a year later a package arrives with the low resolution fuzzy copies of the original DVD's. For gods sake, how difficult is it to pop the orignal dvd in your computer, fire up dvd decrypter and click the copy button to save it on your hard drive, then use a burner/duplicator for making copies? Its not rocket science.

Luckily I have been able to find every title overseas in Europe from companies like hc-medien, absolumentx, dvd marketplace, ...

Never order anything from Lovelot. Its a waste of your time and money.

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But yeah, you'd be amazed at how often packages sent overseas get lost in the mail for no reason. I have no idea why this happens, but it does and it's not always the senders fault. Also, many countries do not provide tracking numbers unless you pay for express mail. In most cases express mail is much to expensive.

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One of them actually had the fast forward icon on the screen...it started fast forwarding, then i saw the play button icon and then it started reversing again back to where it started!

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for 150 Dollar ( 105$ actually (coz discount)

That i got copies is one thing (all on Sony DVD-R mediums)

But that the quality is that awful is really terrible.

The DVD quality is really messed up i guess he just overwrites them on normal DVD discs from "video"

As far as i know selling Copies is here in Europe and also in America not legal. But i wonder how he is existing that long.

So yea i would call it i scam. There s nothing on his site standing about "copies" (of course not or i doubt his shop would last long.)

But the problem is the movies he offers i dont know any sites atm who sell the new Kav Amateur movies. Only the main site who offer 60€ for 1 movie.....

His movies are hardly watchable because of this quality.

Edited by - hotshot on 3/30/2007 3:32:13 AM

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1st email after i received the DVD-R copies.

> The "DVD's" arrived
>
>
> That i got copies is one thing (all on Sony DVD-R mediums)
>
>
> But that the quality is that awful its really terrible.
>
> The DVD quality is messed up on the KA amateur movies. While the 2 Babes
> is quite good the KA movies are not watchable.
>
> I accept the Kaviar Babes. But the Kaviar Amateur arent acceptable the
> quality is too awful.
>
> Make a suggestion so we both can find a way for a solution.
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His Reply

hello, which kaviar amatures is bad?

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My reply.

The movies i received: Kaviar Amateur , 86,88,85,87
Kaviar Babes: 15 + 18

Kaviar Amateur 87 this disc any of my dvd rom's Toshiba, DVD LG newest DVD burn model both can even read the disc.
86 and 88 both got verry bad quality. 85 hasnt good one but is not that awful like 88 and 86.

Kaviar Babes: 15 + 18 (both have good quality)

After that i got no more emails from him
untill i wrote and asked if he received my email....

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His email

> body else complained about the quality of the movies.
> what do you suggest?
> If the movies play, then the quality ois DVD quality.
> I will send the defective DVD again.
> I do not understand what you are saying is wrong with the movies. The
> picture quality is bad?
> That is impossible

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My email.

The sentence with "nobody" is wrong. I ve red many times in forum that ppl also complained about it. (got link to proove) But thats not the topic.

I ve payed you 105 Dollar for DVD-R. The quality of 88 and 86 is horrible. If you have better quality i would suggest to resend them again.
Or you can resend (with the87) one of the new Ka 89 or Ka Babes 18.
If you really dont have better quality of 88 and 89.

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Than he replied this

RZ:

> $107 would not even get you one KA 89.
> I do not know why you are complaining.
> And you will have to order somewhere else from now on.
> So good luck. I will replace the movies but you are banned.

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My Answer:

Dont worry. i wouldnt order them anymore for 105 dollar selling cheap DVD-R 's. If i would know that i would never order from your dodgy shop.

I m sure BMG (anti piracy) and other companies like SG MFX would be happy to hear about your buisness here.
You can be glad i m not reporting your copies!
Send me the movies i ve asked for and i m done with you!

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His Answer

> I am scared.
> I own copyrights to over 200 movies.
> The content can not be published therefore is
> not protected under any copyright laws.

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My Reply:

There is no Copyright you own over SG and MFG Media.
I would be really careful with that. And what you are saying here.

They clearly forbid it. You can have the link to the froum where it has been allready said long ago.

You send cheap DVD-R's out.
Copyrights over DVD-R's. You just made my day.

You got 105 Dollar for cheap copies. There stands nothing on the site what says about it. 25 Dollar for a DVD-R is a joke.

Originally written by

SG Video Customer Care
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I noticed here at this place that some of you recently reported bad experiences with our material. I would like to inform you - and I hope the forum's moderator agrees to our philosophy - about a few facts regarding SG Video's productions:

1. There are no authorised download offers of our movies accross the net. All download opportunities you find is illegal and piracy.

2. We do not produce any DVD in the american NTSC norm.

We started a campaign against piracy now.

Piracy is a serious subject of crime and we are not willing to tolerate it any longer.

If any of you guys here ever bought a copied version on DVD of our movies and was disappointed by the quality, please contact me and let me know through which shop it was bought.

For now I would like to thank you for your attention and look forward to your reply.

Christian
SG Video Germany

Christian, SG Video Customer Care
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His Answer: (that was a great one)

> who gives a fuck what they say.
> They stole my brazilian movies and put their label on them.
> Brazilian Kaviar Amateurs.
> You got what you got. You are just cheap I think and looking for
> free content by theatening me. Now you get nothing
>

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my reply:

Brazilian Kaviar Amateurs is an official movie from SG.

You got payed 105 Dollar.

I m done with you anyways. Dont make me report your copies to Companies who would really like to hear from you. Trust me i can do that dont mind what movies i ve ordered. You better send them out and i will forget about this.

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His answer:

> yeah, I am going to report that you are a fucking idiot

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My reply:

The only one who is an idiot are you. By treating your customers like that.
Knowing that you are playing a risky game here.

I think it was clearly enough from my site.

You have 4 weeks to either refund the money of 105 Dollar and i will send you your DVD-R copies. Or resend the not working movie back with refund.

Big greetings

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His reply:

> I do not have any customers like you.
> and I do not want them. You get no refund.
> So quit trying and go back to bother other people

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This was the last message to him after this one he didnt answer back:

Again a flop.
I' m not the first one you have problems with.

The one not working movie isnt really a problem. Than the Copy.

You wont hear from me anymore.
You will have other things to do.

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Based on his site there was no information about Cheap DVD-R copies (of course). Even the bad quality of the movies wouldnt be that big problem than cheap dvd_r's for this price.

*badass mod on*
Now i m just wondering to really report him. I m for sure not the only one who would like to do this.
*badass mod off*

Since i m not really a bad person thats the only problem i have with is reporting his stuff to Companies like SG and MFX after his rude replies like that you probably can understand me.

Edited by - hotshot on 4/2/2007 6:34:21 PM

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Selling DVD-Rs is one thing, but selling them for near retail is crazy.

I don't know who to believe. Lovelot claim his Brazilian Scat Amateur titles are owned by him. On his website they're called "Brazilian Brown" or something.

The strange thing is, is that the SG titles are actually directed by the people at MFX! Same actresses and everything. Does SG have a license to distribute them or something? I'd assume so since the quality is really good and they're pressed DVDs and not DVD-Rs like Lovelot.

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