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killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 1:30PM
@Derek117: You drew exactly the incorrect conclusions that I predicted you would draw. Please read my post above, as it's clear by your most recent post that you didn't read it before.
Derek117
Senior Member

1605 Posts
1/06
Posted - Dec 13 2008 : 8:34PM
I just re-read your post, and don't want to "re-fine" the question. I understand that people who escort don't believe the law is right.
Where I'm going with this is that if you "chose" to break the law--even one you disagree with--then you should "expect" to be arrested. Which is a good strategy, if you're trying to change the law--like the US Civil Rights movement of the 1960s. But, I don't see escorts trying to change the law--just ignore it. Which means they're breaking it.
Second: with so many porn people in court for non-porn related things like rape, reckless driving (road rage), income tax issues, real estate issues--does the common adoption by people in the industry of a "I only obey the laws I like" attitude work against these performers with a judge or jury?
I don't want the industry folks branded as "criminals"--but prosecuting attorneys certainly do. And, I'm wondering if acceptance of escorting is hurting everyone.
I'm talking "industry strategy" and image, in these times when so many people are finding themselves in court.
And, all of this is probably a New Thread not having to do with Luke Ford.
Edited by - Derek117 on 12/13/2008 8:55:48 PM
Edited by - Derek117 on 12/13/2008 8:58:30 PM
Dave_K99
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497 Posts
12/07
Posted - Dec 14 2008 : 12:52PM
It's a matter of personal ethics I suppose, which aren't necessarily the same as the law.
I doubt there are more than a handful of people on the planet who've never broken any law, especially when you look at obscure laws that are no longer enforced. People break laws all the time without even knowing they're doing it.
My view is that a crime that doesn't hurt anyone else isn't much of a crime.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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18631 Posts
4/08
Posted - Dec 14 2008 : 1:05PM
You're referring to FOUR people. Out of how many in the biz? Besides those four, I can think of one or two others in legal trouble right now for non-porn stuff. Maybe three others.
Out of how many? Thousands?
I don't imagine those numbers are higher than any other industry. Probably lower than many others in fact. You can't possibly expect it a fair statement to say that no porn person should do anything wrong, because that will criminalize the industry. Talk about pressure!
People are going to fuck up, in porn or out of porn. That's just life. People will commit rape, people will have road rage, people will skimp on their taxes, people will get caught up in real-estate schemes. That's how it goes. It's unfortunate, and it shouldn't happen, but it does happen. All the time.
It's unfair to say to someone "you work in an industry that the government wants to paint in a bad light, so you have to be held to a higher standard than everyone else on the planet." Now, we can say that to porn people, but we shouldn't be surprised if they then fail our ridiculous expectations.
 
Dave_K99
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497 Posts
12/07
Posted - Dec 14 2008 : 1:13PM
Google "sex-workers rights", there are plenty of escorts campaigning against the current system. See Proposition K, the attempt to decriminalise prostitution in San Fransisco, for example. Most of the activists who created and campaigned for the proposition were active or former sex-workers.
This coming Wednesday there's the National March For Sex Workers Rights in Washington. It doesn't look like they're just ignoring the law to me. I'm not sure what else they can do to change either the law or society's attitude towards them.
Considering the fact that their job is both illegal and socially unacceptable to many people, I think they've got a lot of guts to come out and expose themselves like that. I don't think you can blame most escorts for wanting to stay under the radar.
8090_REX
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52 Posts
11/07
Posted - Dec 15 2008 : 12:58AM
Pretty amazing; Debi Diamond just came back to shooting porn scenes and has already became a prostitute. Her AD is already up at Body Miracle. She has joined the ranks of the other major prostitutes Teri Weigel, Memphis Monroe, Kathy Willets, etc. I mean even Farrah gets out of jail and starts to turn tricks. I thought with the economic down turn it might to tough to get 2k to 1k per hour. Must be all the financial sector folks using bailout money for the government, because the most lucrative place to go is always New York City.
astroglide
New Member

1 Posts
12/08
Posted - Dec 15 2008 : 7:45AM
I think Luke Ford points fingers at the PW's escorting to take the attention off of the fact of him escorting to Hasidic Jewish gays.Think about it, isn't that a possible theory?
Kimi Lixx
Senior Member

2012 Posts
6/01
Posted - Dec 15 2008 : 12:14PM
Breaking an unjust law, and trying not to be arrested for it, doesn't mean you're ignoring it.
People helped slaves escape. They knew they'd be in BIG trouble if they got caught. They knew there weren't enough people on their side to change the law. They knew that if they got caught, it wouldn't necessarily help their cause, and would be that much less help available to the slaves. They did their best to not be caught while doing an illegal thing.
I'm not comparing voluntary sex work to slavery, so nobody needs to get their knickers in a twist over that. I'm just pointing out an extreme example of something I believe we can all agree on as an unjust law that deserved breaking.
Likewise, I'm sure that plenty of people over the years who have stood up, or in Rosa Parks' case, sat down, for what they believed in, really did not want to be arrested. They just wanted to live their lives free from an unjust burden.
2pac4sure
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39 Posts
7/08
Posted - Dec 15 2008 : 8:46PM
I think it should legalized and regulated with STD testing [viewable result's on the internet, both Pornstar prostitute and potential client]. It should also have a 40% tax levied against it. This money would be used for any medical and/or treatments for local prostitutes (street walkers) that is needed. There all in the same industry and should take care of one another. No reason anyone should suffer who provides at any level.
Schmse
Senior Member

I'm not here, this isn't happening!
2571 Posts
6/04
Posted - Dec 16 2008 : 2:58PM
I just read Angel Dark is esorting in London... Well, due to financial crisis the prices in the city may be lower now...
Keebler Elf
Member

235 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jan 7 2009 : 8:20PM
LOL! Like she'd admit to you if she did!
Rumours of her issues with drugs have been around for a long time, same with rumours of her escorting (while her hubby watched!). I've seen at least one review of her escort services.
That's in no way to say she's still escorting (or doing drugs, for that matter). But for you to so conclusively claim that she doesn't escort is nothing more than wishful thinking of your own self-importance in being "in the know." Fact is, you have no idea. Only she knows what she's been up to (and potentially her clients!).
As an aside, from how seriously she takes her privacy, I'm sure she'd be delighted to know that you, as her "confidante", is telling the world what she's up to these days...
Too funny.
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