I don't like POV movies, but the importance of camera angle and how the guy positions the girls body is very important. I want to see ass up, face down and alot of focus on the girls body.

Of course POV sucks in that you can't see a guy burry his face in her ass.

But damn, Velicity Von never looked so good. Her face in the trailer looks fuckin gorgeous.

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As you mention, when only the top of the ass is visible, and you only see the top of her butt crack, the shot is not a turn on for me.

While I like Rodney Moore's movies, from those I've seen, he also doesn't do the ass shots properly. I remember an early movie he did with Shanna McCullough, "Rodney Blasts the Stars", I was looking forward to seeing some good shots of her great ass, but was generally disappointed.

I think the general principal is to make sure as much of the ass is visible as possible.

I like the ass shots when the guy is almost lying down on his back, and the girl sits on his cock in the reverse cowgirl position and leans forward slightly.

I saw Luccia in a movie called Latin P.O.V. 3 that had some good shots of her in this position. Not all the ass shots were great, but there were some good shots of her ass in this position, some screen shots here :

Latin P.O.V. 3

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There are really just a set range of shots and angles that really work for POV. It does limit things, but fans of POV know what they are getting into. They want an exprience like they are having sex with these girls so it is understood that some things will be sacrificed.

You say you don't like POV in general probably because what you've been exposed to is the messed up stuff like I showed in the Ferrara caps.

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At least some of his scenes. I've noticed he's recently been letting his bud Scott Nails hold the camera sometimes.

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The only thing POV is really good for is blowjobs (mostly because a lot of porn girls have gorgeous eyes) and even then, I still prefer the POV angle to be mixed with a variety of other shots....at least every now and then.

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You went to some effort on this, and it was nicely done.

I'm not a POV fan in general, in part because of the excellent points you make. I generally like more whole body shots and different aspect views than what POV can give. (I'm not a fan of POV blowjobs at all.) But done right, doggie POV can be very stimulating.

And your examples were dead on.

The first two shots of Velicity are breathtaking, and I'd jack to them every time.

I was looking forward to Manuel's flick, only for Sonia Carrere, but seeing how the scene seems to have been shot, I don't know now. In addition to the poor body positioning and camera work, there also seems to be some composition issues with respect to light and shadows as well.

Good job.

BSD

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The Shyla and Aubrey scene was a bit of a directorial gaffe- Manuel has the girls positioned across the room from one another, and any kind of heat whatsoever is lost while ambling back and forth several times to attend to each of them. The camerawork seems inept- rarely holding a shot for more than a few seconds.

The Jennifer Stone scene seems short and I could have sworn there's some dubbing throughout. Shot in a bedroom this time, the camerawork is a bit better and the lighting's just serviceable.

The Sonia Carrere scene also felt short and not very well planned out. Shot outside, the natural light washes out flesh-tones and the camerawork is again frenetic.

Naomi's scene is shot inside with quite a bit of natural light coming in through a glass partition. Again, there's excessive washout. I found myself more concerned with how extremely lean Naomi has become- just doesn't look like the same girl. The camerawork is just ok here.

The last segment of the pic features Chloe Delaure shot in a hotel room. The footage is a bit dark and very grainy- On top of that, there are stretches of footage that are out of focus.

The bonus scene with Sharka Blue appears to have been shot in the same Hotel room as Delaure's segment and it is again dark and grainy. Manuel apparently gives up the POV approach about halfway through the scene and sets the camera on a nightstand to catch the remainder of their session.

Somewhere about halfway through this vid I found myself wishing Ferrara had just scrapped the POV approach and shot a straight-forward gonzo release.

I'll agree with the initial poster that this was indeed a waste of a great cast- I thought Shyla Stylez, Jennifer Stone, and Sonia Carrere (all very sexy here) in a Ferrara flick would be a sure-fire winner... not so.

Ferrara's done some great stuff- Brianna Love's Oversexed and New Whores On The Block (#1) are well worth picking up, but after a very disappointing NWOTB #2 and this turkey...

I dunno, maybe he needs to slow down a bit.

Apparently, I need to slow down and wait on some reviews...

*** Note- Fucked On Site was shot in widescreen.

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I won't go out of my way to watch Manuel's POV movie based on tritone's critique, because the tritone knows his stuff in this regard. But also, Manuel's unshorn cock is just unattractive. I don't enjoy watching girls suck a cock that isn't cut. Just my own "point of view"

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On the other hand, if you are simply suggesting that your opinion of what makes a good porno movie differs from Astroknight's, then I have to wonder why you think the rest of us care.

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Christoph Clark,

Edited by - ze_dude33 on 1/5/2007 9:40:19 AM

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Yet he glosses over this constatnly and instead focuses on "chemistry" with the girls and the male performer. Yes, the girls performance is important in the movie, but for POV you need to get the "craft" right first. If a POV movie is dead on perfect POV with my standard of approval, it should get 3 stars off the bat. Then you add on to that (or subtract) based on the OTHER aspects of the movie.

Example:
Perverted Point of View 8 - Rated 2 stars by him even though Tony T. absoultely nails the POV in this one. The problem is, Astro takes this for granted because he hasn't been exposed to the crap POV and just assumes anybody can do it right.

On the flip side, he is very fond of the Jack's POV series, which I agree is sometimes good, but it also misses a bunch too with too much male interaction, too many male body parts in the frame, and frequently screwing up the doggie position.

My point is, we need somebody like me who is going to call these movies out on their mistakes for the sake of the true, extreme POV fans.

Edited by - tritone on 1/5/2007 10:55:43 AM

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Edited by - wodgers on 1/5/2007 2:54:40 PM

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You're an articulate person. You could quickly and easily edit together your posts in this thread, make some minor adjustments, and post the result on the site as your review of the movie. I've done this several times.

Reviews don't have to be blow-by-blow (no pun intended) descriptions of the sex action in the scenes. Mainstream movie reviews aren't written that way -- there's no reason why yours has to be. Just get your thoughts out there where they'll have the most impact.

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I hope he reads this thread and learns that the way he shoots POV ain't up to scratch, and improves.

I'm really interested in the serendipitious POV month at Evil Angel. I've advocated 'theme' months at Evil Angel for a while, but it doesn't suit their model apparently. Now maybe this situation is a good reason why some theme months might help - at least one of us has noticed a huge problem in the way a film is shot and can contrast it against another director's film. Which brings me to my question - how did Rocco fare in the POV December stakes, with his POV release?

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