Superwhore Maddy O Reilly just started a new twitter campaign against facials on twitter. Seems like many girls would prefer to swallow also these days regarding to well known supporters like Veruca James, Dani Daniells and many more. Is it not possible anymore these days to shoot good straight swallow movies to make these girls happy? Seems like some directors have NO RESPECT to certain likes and dislikes of female peformers.
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ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 2:39PM
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Superdeluxe Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 2:54PM
I agree with Maddy. Facials never made sense to me. It's one thing to miss the mouth of wild cum shots that end up everywhere, but what does cum on a womans face, ass or tits do for the average man. Open up and swallow or push out the pie.
Of course it would make female performers happy, they'll be getting paid more. I think that's the part directors are hesitant about.
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Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 2:59PM
Whats with the girls who really love swallowing not matter if other ones are charging more for it? Seems like also they are not allowed in most cases due to Maddys war on twitter.
My interest in porn would be greatly reduced if facials were to fall out of favor. Seeing beautiful women like Maddy having their faces covered with cum is maybe the biggest draw for me. I am glad that even though they aren't her preference that Maddy has done some great facial scenes in the past.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 4:45PM
From what I've read here on ADT they don't get paid more to swallow, some directors leave it to the performer's preference. I certainly think the facial is a cliche at this point and more variety is welcome, in general the better gonzo does have this variety already, it is more the by-the-numbers stuff that always ends with a facial.
Facials belong in the Bukakke fetish if you ask me. I prefer swallowing, cum swapping, and cum play. I don't see facials going anywhere it's kind of a porno staple.
Facials are the best way to finish in porn for me. Unless swallowing entails closed mouth, she sucks the cum out, shows it to the camera, and then swallows. If its that open mouth, he jerks off into her mouth garbage, no thanks.
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Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 7:02PM
An anal creampie is my favorite finish, but women either don't do it, or it's fake. I also like a good old fashion tug boat. When the draw bridge is up, you got to row that boat to shore.
When I think of how this potential trend might lead to surge (no pun intended) in sales for producers, I can't help but think of the number of people who begged and begged for scenes that ended in the girl milking the cum shot with her mouth ... like an oral creampie. That's not a load shot in the mouth, mind you, it's the girl sucking the load with a P2M or A2M blowjob. A sloppy, creamy blowjob. Man, that would be fucking cool!
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Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 9:47PM
No question it's the least healthy act in porn, but since companies accept no liability, it should be up to talent. Either way, the fake shit has to go, it's so silly and the editing to try and make it look real is also horrible.
If this leads to more swallowing, girls stroking/sucking the guy off and (vag/oral) creampies I'm all for it. Obviously, girls shouldn't be forced to do anything they don't like. If a girl prefers to swallow let her swallow, if a girl prefers facials let her get a facial. Girls swallowing or getting creampied is way more fun that facials tho, in my opinion. I doubt much will change tho, I bet most scenes will still end with the guy pulling out, jerking off a cumming on the girls face, with half the cumshot missing the face completely...
Literally the greatest finishing move in the history of pornography was in Sasha Knox's scene in Big Wet Asses #8. She jerked off Mark Ashley into her wide open mouth.
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 4:53AM
It's more degrading/hot on the face. Personally I don't watch scenes to the end so I don't really care. The only chick who has me interested in seeing her get facialed is Nicole Aniston because she's supposed to hate/dodge facials, would love to see her in a bukkake. If dodging facials now becomes a thing then "her first facial" might start being hot to me, but it would still be a long shot. Just like I have a hard time believing an IR dodger is doing it out of sheer racism I'd have a hard time believing a facial-dodging pornstar is dodging it out of genuine disgust. There are probably better avenues to explore for fresh "first" performances, like "her first dwarf" or "her first horse dildo". Or just copy the japanese, they're creative with their smut. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 10/20/2015 5:09:37 AM
Agreed. When you cum in a girl's mouth it's virtually always with her consent. Although the majority of facials are also consensual, there's still that element of 'marking your territory' that makes it nasty. Personally, I like facials and swallowing - I don't see why I should have to choose between them. For me, the perfect blowbang would incorporate both.
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 8:30AM
I know I'm dating myself, but it seems like back in the day, if a girl swallowed, it was like the ultimate show of love for her partner. Maybe today, things are different and cumming all over a girls face is more about domination and exploitation and that submissive fuck doll BS. Again, the cum shot used to be called the "money shot" again that may be back in the day. I've seen some really well done scenes that were erotic and very well done. then another scene with the same girl getting gang-banged by four guys and it looked more like a sexual assault, I guess that's why they call it acting. There are many female actors that have made it very clear what they will and won't do. I guess the problem is, that if one girl won't do it, the producers will find some girl who will. I've gotten the impression that many of these girls burn out a lot faster than they'd probably like, and there's plenty of new talent waiting. Also there's plenty of choices out there for everyone.
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 8:44AM
I'm guessing that this will be one of those threads where all the marginalized deviants come out to play? All this blasphemous talk about getting rid of facials. "It ain't fittin', it just ain't fittin'!"
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 10:24AM
I miss some of the old porn where there was actually a story and some awesome performances by the actors. I'm not sure what POV means but some of this stuff is samo-samo, in an office, or on a couch, the old interview scene. "Hey wow, you're hot what's your name? " I'm Suzi. How old are you? I'm 18 I love to fuck and suck, Blah Blah Blah. Then she's down on her knees sucking him off for 15 minutes, and he (all you see is his dick) cums on her face and maybe in her mouth, fade to black" I remember the old 8mm black and white stuff at stag parties. Damn I'm old :-)
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 11:58AM
^ POV means point-of-view. It started out as a way to put the masturbator (i.e. the viewer) into the scene as "what it looks and feels like to the person receiving the BJ/sex as he's looking at the girl." Mike John has been the only one who has ever really gotten POV right. He created POV as art. Today, POV has deteriorated into a way to cut expenses by eliminating the cameraman, and giving the male performer a hand-held camera to shoot the scene himself. Another variation on this has the performers setting and moving cameras around to film themselves (again, cutting out the cameraman). Most of this type of POV and stationary camerawork, in today's no-frills cost-cutting porn environment, is absolutely dreadful. When POV is used as part of the mix of camera angles, by people who know what they're doing, it can add nicely to a scene. You'll become more sensitive to good vs. bad POV over time. Typically, if you can see additional camera angles other than POV or stationary camera in a scene, it was probably created by an adult (e.g. director, cameraman) who knows what they're doing. Long live the facial cumshot!
I agree Maddy has taken some great facials. The whole 'facials are stupid' doesn't really fly though. I mean, compared to what; foot fetishes? Squirting? Sex Toys? It seems to me one could say that about any almost any sexual act. To each his / her own, but to say 'facials are stupid' seems a bit... stupid. I too like facials & swallowing, but it was facials that really peaked my interest in porn. Seeing Marlyn Chambers take a facial in Insatiable and was all it took for me and guided what I viewed since back when I was renting vhs tapes. Ashlyn Gere, Debbie Diamond, Crystal Wilder and Juli Ashton were all my favorites at one time because they took facials. I will look forward to seeing Maddy, Veruca James, Dani Daniels swallow loads in the future but it saddens me they won't be getting their faces painted any more
Facials in porn are great, and they're not going anywhere. Edited by - SkyHigh on 10/20/2015 5:43:20 PM
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jzalski Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 20 2015 : 2:29PM
Thank you very much for explaining everything to me.
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Ashlyn Gere and Juli Ashton were great favorites of mine. along with Tori Welles who did some scenes with Peter North that were classic IMHO. Found Tori's Twitter page and like all of us she's gotten old but has maintained her tough outlook on life.
Massive fan of facials and swallowing.I hate cumshots on the ass.Don't care for creampies as well.I would be devastated if this campaign sees more of the latter two.I am okay if we see more swallowing though .
In Kimberly Brix's Tushy.com scene Manuel nails her right in the nostril with some spunk during the pop. She adorably blew a cum bubble out of her nose as the aftermath. I guess he was aiming for her mouth :)
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Posted - Oct 21 2015 : 5:09PM
I can understand the way she feels. Unfortunately, the directors 'call the shots' and the male performer does what he's told to do, the female often has to put up with doing things she'd rather not do. Older porn filmed a lot of scenes in which the guy pulled out of a gal's pussy, he'd spray scrotum sauce all over her bush, use his dick to stir it around a little, reinsert for a few strokes, that was great stuff IMHO. I always like gobs of cum in pussy hair--too bad those days are over--for now at any rate. If I was a director, I'd ask the gal what she liked since her performance is often tied to the way she's feeling about what she's doing. Maybe a gal is like Christy Canyon who hated facials but liked it when a guy came on her big breasts and then she'd act like it was lotion and rub it around. Other gals love to eat cum. One scene I often watch is Dora Venter and Franco Roccaforte. They're getting into the action and Dora tells Franco, 'I wanna eat your cum.' Franco must love to hear that because he fucks her with more vim and vigor and Dora seems to relish eating his cum. Some scenes are done with passion and enthusiasm, that's one of them. Another favorite scene of mine is Megan Murray in Teenage Anal Princess. Sasha cums when they're doing cowgirl and he squirts on her chest and belly before Megan takes the last half in her mouth. The director tells her she has cum all over her and she tells him, I'll be eating it in a minute. There's a gal who must love the taste of cum. Monica Sweetheart was dynamite at facials and swallowing, she considered it to be 'part of the pleasure.' If Maddy doesn't like facials and I can't blame her, ask her where she likes it and do it that way. She'll be happier knowing the end result will be more to her liking and she'll do a better performance. Can''t be that hard to figure out.
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Posted - Oct 21 2015 : 8:44PM
Great post, you made a lot of sense. I can think of a couple of others who were cum junkies but some are long gone and some have disappeared, anyway thanks.
I don't know when the scene was shot but Jovan Jordan posted a pic of Maddy basking in the aftermath of a great facial on his Twitter timeline last night: https://twitter.com/JovanJordanXXX/media
^ While I Love Facials, it is my opinion that it should be up to the individual performer as to whether they want it or not, just like any other sexual act. It'll be interesting to see who else joins Maddy in her "Facials Are Stupid" campaign!
Well, this was the first I'd heard about the Maddy/facial issue. But this particular girl seems to relish facials and swallowing. Of course the "Hottest Teen In Porn" will be 22 in a few more months and has seemed to have disappeared from the scene. I'm sure the hundreds of other young hopefuls standing in the wings would take a load anywhere the director tell them to. I will say this, since signing on to this site, I sure have learned a lot about the industry and how it works.
Making it illegal seems a little extreme; it should be agreed upon up front like the other individual portions of the agreement (i.e. B/G, vag only, no facial, etc.)
Instead of facials, I'd like to see the lady finish her guy with her hand. Not only is this safe sex, but it's enjoyable, and realistic too. I don't think there are too many guys who actually give facials to their ladies in real life. This isn't realistic sex. But having the lady masturbate her guy to orgasm with her hand is very realistic. Because that's what a lot of ladies do with their guys at massage parlors.
Given the utter ubiquity of porn nowadays, I wouldn't be too sure about that. I think it's normal to want to replicate what you see in porn, though, obviously, you need to find yourself an obliging lady. Mrs N is, thankfully, sometimes in an obliging mood and I absolutely love concluding a 'session' in this way.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 3:57PM
To both you guys. Interesting thoughts. I think what I've learned over the past year or so is that there are a lot more young girls watching porn because of its availability and the Internet. I'm thinking of a "porn star" who probably peaked about 6-8 months ago who made it clear over and over how from the time she was 16 that she watched porn every day and masturbated to it every day. She became so beguiled by porn that by the time she was 18 she was already well into the biz. Of course no one stays 18-19 forever and....... My point is that young girls and many other women see this type of activity and figure "Hey if this is what it takes, then OK, I'll do it." Some do it for money and attention, others to keep their man in his bed at home. Although I've been watching porn for many years, I've never been fooled into thinking than it's anything more than men with big dicks, fucking submissive women, even the so-called sensitive, passionate scenes end the same way with the "money shot" either on the stomach and tits or squirting the load in the girl's mouth and her face.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 9:20PM
Maybe Maddy is looking for an "out" from porn and this is the stand she'll take.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 11:13PM
Don't want to be judgemental, but I don't think there's anything 'normal' about wanted to replicate what you see in porn. I guess I can see the novelty but in RL it feels much better to come in a woman's vagina or mouth than to watch it, this is something they do in porn strictly because it is a visual medium.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 11:49PM
^Speak for yourself, I know several girls who like it porno style.
Posted - Oct 19 2015 : 2:30PM
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