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SteveKub
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Posted - Nov 11 2015 : 2:06PM
I'm in the camp that doesn't particularly like facials. They seem stupid to me.
In order, I like (1) anal creampies (understand not all girls will do it, but some do and it is fucking hot), (2) vaginal creampies, (3) cum in the mouth (let some drip out, but then swap or swallow), (4) cum on the asshole or pussy, (5) cum on the ass cheeks, (6) cum on her stomach, (7) cum on her tits (preferably not fake balloons), and (bringing up the rear) (8) cum on her face.
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Posted - Nov 12 2015 : 2:12AM
Yeah, facials weren't even standard in porn until the late 80s.
MutantMo
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Posted - Nov 14 2015 : 8:33PM
I was getting fancy with my words all I meant it's been done for a very long time. I was born in the 80s so it seems like ancient history to me. 90s porn is vintage to me...
Edited by - Mutantmo on 11/14/2015 8:35:45 PM
MaddyOreilly
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Posted - Nov 22 2015 : 2:42AM
Um, swallowing does not pay more.
 
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Posted - Nov 22 2015 : 8:42AM
Hi Maddy, great to have you post here. Love your scenes.
sprayedwithjizz
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Posted - Nov 22 2015 : 2:34PM
A facial is a work of art. It is the ultimate reward squirted across the face of the babe as an expression of gratitude for the amazing blowjob. She licks and sucks and slobbers and strokes, and finally you are ready to fucking unload in her face. She sucks faster and harder and he finally pulls away to keep the rhythm going till you burst your hot seed on her face and open mouth! And it's a spectacular creamy load, that you know you've been holding for a few days as your nutsack swells with the load as it ejects with ropes of jizz flying through her hair and coating her nose, eyes and chin. The more heavier the load, the more proof that the nut was charged enough to splatter a face to soak it completely in jizz, a total facial plastering.
wanderson
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Posted - Nov 22 2015 : 10:07PM
If you do not pay more then why we have so many girls who don't eat, simply because they don't like it,
support the campaign, not only because I love to see girls swallowing but also because I think the wills of the actresses should be respected, that would make the scenes more authentic.
and another thing is ridiculous are the fake swallow when the actress intentionally wasted much of the load, swallowing a small part,
they think we're idiots, is obvious that they do not like to swallow.
just to cite examples of girls that do this:
Rachael madori, keisha gray, asa akira, morgan lee, marsha may, aidra fox, sara luvv ...
and actresses who love swallowing:
AJ applegate, remy lacroix, jada stevens, lola foxx, marley brinx
Edited by - wanderson on 11/22/2015 10:09:05 PM
Edited by - wanderson on 11/22/2015 10:45:53 PM
SgtSausage
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 2:51AM
they should use the penis as a pen and draw the word cum on her forehead instead of just splashing all over her face without direction and purpose. it's more civilized.
daron
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 3:33AM
And......still there is no current site or series devoted solely to oral/deepthroat creampies in porn where the girl finishes the guy off and swallows! I've started a thread on here Oral & Deepthroat Creampie Thread to list these in porn and hopefully encourage more of them. WE MUST SAY NO TO ANNOYING SELF-JERKING FACIALS! As porn fans, we need to speak up about this! Thank you Maddy for bringing some attention to this serious issue!
Edited by - daron on 11/23/2015 3:35:44 AM
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 12:08PM
Thanks for setting the record straight.
jeffandersonn
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 12:20PM
so as i said before this new generation of pornstars suck......at least most of them.
till 2008-2010 almost every girl swallowed at the end of the scene. and if there was more than one guy they swallowed all at once. how i miss Chelsie Rae! Mia Bangg...bobbi starr...hillary scott, jamie huxley......damn
Mass Facialties
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 12:26PM
^

You and that ultimate_sperminator guy whine about the same shit OVER AND OVER again.
overrated guy
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 3:13PM
Is this a joke
My only contribution for this thread will only be as follows....
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Wild Billy
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Posted - Nov 23 2015 : 9:54PM
Me too!
 
Melvyn
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 4:26AM
One might call it paint-by-numbers.
Dread
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Edited by - dread on 11/24/2015 10:15:25 AM
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 10:29AM
Shouldn't that be paint by "members"?
DrownedBurrito
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 3:43PM
I feel so strongly about this that I decided to make an account to voice my opinion. I am so full of contempt towards the mainstream porn industry for the overuse of facials; it's the most bland, cliche, generic, soulless act of finishing one can perform. It'd be one thing if at least the females were generally the ones taking control and administering the facial upon themselves, but no. I have to watch a man jerk himself off while the girl just sits there and waits, as if that's supposed to turn me on? What in the absolute fuck is wrong with this industry?
Sure, not every guy is into the girl and so on and so forth, but frankly it happens way too many times for that to be a valid excuse. Find better matches for the guys so they'll be able to keep their hands to themselves and let the girl take over and finish him off, or something. Surely with the vast fortune and success the industry has measures can be taken to make it so guys are jerking themselves off less and less. Girls taking the loads in their mouths, pussies, or ass (if it can be safely done) is overwhelmingly superior to facials, especially if the guy's just jerking himself off. What's worse is there are actually people who prefer to watch the guy finish himself off, I just can't understand that, nor do I want to.
I hope this campaign sees large success, there needs to be a revolution to end this tired practice once and for all.
daron
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 4:45PM
You speak the truth! It has been well documented that the reason for the boring "self-jerk finishes" is primarily because of the jaded male performers being unable to cum through any other means other than jerking themselves off. Pretty sad, right? We have suggested the alternative, have the guy jerk if he can not cum from any other means, but HAVE THE GIRL FINISH HIM OFF AS HE IS ABOUT TO CUM. Simple solution, but still we get the same old boring self-jerk facials that porn companies think all fans want, which is not the case.
As fans, we need to be active in letting the porn companies/producers/directors know that we want to see something different after all these years and a trillion and one self-jerk facials. Hopefully Maddy can help bring about this change.
MADDY FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 10:01PM
^ As you say, the real issue is that the male performers are usually incapable of getting off except when they jerk themselves off. Perhaps inevitable due to the conditions that they are shooting under or the use of Viagra and other 'enhancements.' I've also read some directors say they need to do it because otherwise the female performer may not place the shot 'properly.'
The issue for me there is why then do so many scenes by Passion HD or Nubiles, etc not end that way? They're scenes end with the woman finishing off the guy more often than not.

MorganKane
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Posted - Nov 24 2015 : 11:38PM
^In my opinion, I find it difficult to believe that the claims about aim from directors is true. I mean, cumshots where most of it misses the girls face completely seems to be happening fairly often.
charn
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 8:35AM
It's near the end of its life, like the car industry, internet, etc.
stinkfist
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 11:48AM
Surely im not the only one that likes to see facial scenes,an old fave that springs to mind is G for Gianna with Gianna urging the guys to spunk on her face that was priceless and loved the Cum For Cover series and of course Mason's Massive Facials series then some epic scenes that Peter North shot through to Jules blasting his demon seed all over a pretty face totally covering some girls and nearly gluing their eyes closed,i would not call giving a girl a facial "degrading" or a souless act,next rimming will be getting outlawed and anyone who has partaken in this act will be branded then burned like a heretic :)
I can just as happily watch scenes were the male talent cums on the girls tits/ass etc or swallowing mnovies but i really do love to see a pretty girl get a massive facial.
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 12:07PM
IMO, there's definitely an element of degradation about a facial - surely that's the appeal of them and why I don't, personally, have a problem with guys self-jerking.
 
DrownedBurrito
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 12:17PM
The problem is that the vast majority of porn scenes feature guys giving girls facials, and as I said before I'd at least be a bit more lenient on my stance if females were the ones finishing the guy off, but too many times I have to watch a man jerk himself off while the girl is just sitting there waiting. That shit needs to end, it's not attractive and it's a huge turnoff for me, and I'm sure many would agree. And when I say "soulless" I mean that it's utterly empty of any feeling, the guy's just like a machine entirely focused on getting himself off. If you enjoy watching a guy jerk himself off to completion that's fine, but myself personally I'd rather at least the girl take charge way more often. And even then, as I said before, it'd be so much more intimate and sexual if she took the load in her mouth, pussy, or ass (if it can be safely done). I hope these changes take place in the mainstream porn industry, can't happen fast enough.
stinkfist
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 12:26PM
I never mentioned anything about enjoying watching the guys beat off,just that i enjoy the aftermath of a cum shot with the girls face covered in cum so much so that i also enjoy the fake cum glory hole scenes from Slimewave too.
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 1:58PM
But sometimes (most times, actually) I just want to see girls used as cum dumpsters. That is arousing to me and I make no apology for it. This is PORN, after all, and my personal definition of the term is that it be nasty and, yes, degrading. I've nothing against girls getting guys off in principle but, to me, it feels more like being a voyeur to a real-life couple's sexual activity than a work of fantasy wherein I can treat women however I please. Long live those faces being used for jizz target practice!
DrownedBurrito
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 2:01PM
I can respect that sentiment, and again I'd be more sympathetic if it were the girls finishing the guy off and receiving the load on her face. My biggest issue is that it's almost always a shot of the guy jerking himself off like a machine. I absolutely hate that shit, it's utterly infuriating and pretty much ruins the entire scene for me. Nobody wants to watch a guy jerk himself off, that's the entire reason the girl is there.
daron
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Posted - Nov 25 2015 : 4:21PM
You can rest assured that you will continue to see them until eternity. The porn industry is very resistant to change and is stuck in a rut. It is not an exaggeration to say that self jerked 'facials' represent the great majority of finishes in most porn scenes and this shows no signs of changing, so there will be plenty of facials to keep the fans of them happy.
All I'm saying is it would be nice to see more alternatives where the girl finishes off the guy, by oral/anal/vaginal creampie or even via titty job, butt job, pussy job, hand job, tongue etc etc. There is a lot of fun and extremely pleasurable alternatives and it would be cool if they had more of a place in the industry, so it didn't feel like in EVERY DAMN SCENE, all we are seeing is a guy jerk himself to completion on a girl's face.
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Posted - Nov 26 2015 : 11:35PM
Bill Landis' great autobiographical essay on his time as a porn performer in the early 80s says that he was introduced to the self-jerk method by the great George Payne and that they both had to resort to that method because of their heavy drug use at the time.
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Posted - Nov 27 2015 : 12:43PM
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For today's male talents, I suspect that because they work (i.e. fuck) so much, they have to resort to jerking themselves off to finish the scene. I just assume that when you're a guy that fucks for a living, it's probably more difficult for you to get off, thus the reason why you'd feel compelled to take matters into your own hands, literally. I think it would be almost impossible for some of these guys to cum if it was left up to the girl to jerk him off with her hands. Plus, if you left it up to the girls to do the "handwork," I think cumshots woud be even weaker and more "inaccurate" than what we see when guys are allowed to jerk themselves off.
DrownedBurrito
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Posted - Nov 27 2015 : 1:24PM
That certainly makes sense, and I'd assumed as much myself before making my reply. However, it still happens way too many times in the mainstream. Is it really impossible for the porn industry to find a way to get more guys who are physically capable of keeping their hands to themselves in order for the girl to finish the job, regardless of how often they have sex? Even if the payout isn't as much it's still so much more satisfying to see the female earning the load herself instead of her just kinda being there while the guy goes into autocompletion machine mode. It honestly ruins the scene for me a bit; after all that work the girl does, after that entire beautiful display of sexual prowess in pleasing the guy he just comes in at the last moment and kill steals. I die a little inside every time this happens, it's so...empty and meaningless. It's just watching a guy jerk himself off, as if the girl was just an accessory that may as well not have even been there.
MorganKane
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Posted - Nov 27 2015 : 11:16PM
^^If that is the case, why doesn't male talents based in Europe seem to have that problem? I don't watch that much european porn so it might have changed, but...from what I've seen a decent amount of european male talents seem to have no problem getting off when the girls are the ones finishing the job.
MV007
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 1:39PM
What can I say? Facials get me off. If a scene isn't quite doing it for me I'll simply fast forward to the facial shot and I instantly become harder and am ready to blow. Maddy is one of my favorite stars but I respectfully disagree here.
 
daron
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 6:39PM
Solution: Why can't they at least have the girl finish the self jerking guy off just as he is seconds away from cumming or after he spurts the first drop?
The Heather Brooke oral creampies or Mike Adriano oral creampies are great examples of this. This lets the guy do what he must do to make himself cum and then we at least get to see the girl take charge and finish him off. It is a pretty easy fix to make the ends of scenes more exciting, rather than mostly seeing a guy jerking off onto a bored looking girl holding her mouth open, pretending to look interested.
Mchatruc
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 7:18PM
I don't hate facials, but they are not my favorite. In order of preference, I think the best endings (for bg scenes) are:
1- Cum on mouth w/swallowing 2- cum on mouth no swallow 3- cum on pussy or pussy cream pie 4- facial 5- cum anywhere else ( not a fan of anal cream pie or cum on tits/ass cheeks). However, I enjoy bgg scenes w/ cum swap/kiss even better. And the absolute best ending for bgg is the pussy cream pie that the other girl scoops out with her mouth and then swaps it.
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 7:40PM
^
What I absolutely Love is when in a B/G/G/ threesome, with the ladies in a 69 position, the guy creampies the Babe on top, and immediately upon pulling out , the Cum drips from her Ass or Pussy, directly into the Babe on the bottom's Mouth!! I just find that sooo Hot!!
On the other hand, I also find Massive Facials incredibly Hot!! I think variety is the real point, here!

Edited by - Anonymous64 on 11/28/2015 7:44:04 PM

daron
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 8:45PM
Now that's a facial :) In BGG threesomes, my personal favorite is when the one girl is sucking or deepthroating the guy as he cums and the other girl is sucking the cum out of his balls at the very same time! That is one very sensitive orgasm. Is there a porn name for that? If not, there should be.
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 9:22PM
It could be, depending on whether some of the Cum lands on her face! Your descriptor sounds incredibly Hot, also! In fact, I Love any combination that involves one Babe licking/sucking the Guy's Balls, as the other Babe Deepthroats and/or licks his Shaft!
A porn name? How about the "Double Shaft & Balls Cum Suction/Swallow"? This may need some creative work?
daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 1:18AM
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You are on to something! What about calling it "The Double Suction Swallow". Can anyone else think of a more catchy name??? We could be making porn history here :)
It is a great technique as it puts both girls to good use for the finish, but you don't see it very often.
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 1:34AM
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I think you just nailed it, daron! DSS also strikes me as a solid abbreviation!
I wonder what might be a good term for this: 1 Girl Deepthroating + 2 Girls Ball Sucking/Licking? I suppose (T)riple (S)uction (S)wallow could work, in this case?

Edited by - Anonymous64 on 11/29/2015 1:46:30 AM

daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 1:55AM
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Haha, awesome! We did it! DSS (Double Suction Swallow) and TSS (Triple Suction Swallow)! These need to be added to the sex act 'dicktionary' pronto :)
N00dlesDaddy
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 2:42AM
^ I truly cannot begin to imagine the sensation of having my balls in a girl's mouth as another sucks me off to completion. If that isn't Heaven on Earth for a guy I don't know what is.
daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 5:53AM
Heaven on Earth indeed! You wonder why it is not used more often in threesomes, it is crazy it is so rare. Who the hell wouldn't want to feel that sensation???
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 2:10PM
^ The only way to create a better sensation would be to have a third girl with her tongue up your ass at the same time. :)
daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 4:39PM
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Damn killbillvol69, I think you just one upped us :) That sensation would be almost unbearably good! What should the catchy porn name/acronym be for that sex act?
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 4:54PM
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He sure did!
How about Double or Triple Suction Swallow + Ass Tonguing? (DSS or TSS/AT)
daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 11:29PM
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Sounds great. Who needs facials, when we can have all these crazy finishing combinations? TSS/AT could also be called 'THE ULTIMATE':
One girl sucking each ball, one sucking the cum out of your dick and one girl underneath with her tongue way up your ass!
Four girls working together to finish you off during your orgasm. Now that's what I call teamwork! Has that actually ever been filmed before? And can anyone else one-up that combination with some more girls involved???
Anonymous64
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 11:44PM
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In the spirit of at least doing fewer Facials, I wonder whether Maddy O'Reilly would be in for any TSS/AT scenes?
Though she doesn't have many scenes out just yet, I've seen Khaya Peake display some mad Deepthroating, Ball Sucking and Ass Tonguing skills! In my opinion, she's fantastic at all three, but since Ass Tonguing seems to be the rarest among the three skills, I'd say definitely Khaya for at least some of the Ass Licking!
What perfect Foursome of Babes (Besides Maddy!) would others like to see engage in a Dream Triple Suction Swallow/Ass Tonguing scene as has been described?


Edited by - Anonymous64 on 11/29/2015 11:59:20 PM

daron
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 11:54PM
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Maddy, would you be down for a TSS-AT and if so, what role would you like to play in the foursome equation? :)
I love the idea of Maddy recruiting a team of girls and breaking some new ground in porn with this combination. Maybe this is the statement we need, to show that there is a lot of other fun to be had than just self-jerked facials! :)
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