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dkpaine
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What if we had an orgy and nobody came?
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 12:23AM
I'm interested in having a general discussion about producing porn videos. Not saying I plan to do it (nor am I saying that I don't), but it's a subject about which I have some questions, and I figure there's no better place to ask than in a forum dedicated to the adult video industry.
Let's start with what little I already (think I) know...
Porn is only legal to produce in a few places in the U.S. (California, Nevada, and Florida as I understand it, though please correct me if I'm wrong), and doing it anywhere else in the country is a good way to get arrested. Porn stars are typically paid by the scene, though I have no idea how much they typically make. As I understand it, their pay is often commensurate with what they're required to do in a scene, as well as the "star power" they bring to the production. Regular HIV testing is an absolute must, no matter what type of videos you shoot. Anybody can shoot porn, but the most successful producers are the ones who strive for production quality, and who either find a hook or bankable stars (or both) to distinguish their product from everything else out there. It is impossible to make money producing porn today without knowing how to use the internet to market & distribute your product. While there are still plenty of feature length releases coming out every year, the vast majority of porn scenes these days are produced for online distribution.
With those things understood, and over 30 years of watching porn under my belt, I want to get some more specific info.
In addition to getting a better understanding of what porn stars typically earn per scene, I'm curious as to what the average overall budget for an internet scene is. Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands?
Besides making your videos in a place where it's legal, what sort of legal requirements are there for producing porn videos? I assume some insurance is a good idea, as well as a lawyer on retainer in case of problems, but are there permits which must be obtained? In cities where it is legal, are there still zoning restrictions requiring any set, no matter how "closed" and obscured from public view, to be a minimum distance away from certain businesses & institutions? In addition to requiring identification from performers, are there other steps which can & should be taken to ensure that no one in the film is underage?
For those XXX performers here in the forums, what kinds of things do you like to see when you walk onto a set, and what kinds of things immediately make you regret agreeing to shoot for a particular company? What would you like to see more of in your industry, and what would you like to see less of?
Similarly, for producers & directors who are members here, besides looks and reliability, what do you look for in your performers when you hire them? Other than sales figures, are there factors which determine whether or not you want to continue working with a performer beyond that first scene? What about the current market excites you, and what annoys you or makes you concerned for the industry's future?
(I know some of these are very generic questions, but I think it's better to open the floor for discussion & see what comes up, rather than be too overly specific in my queries.)
While there are already LOTS of threads about what fans like & don't like in porn, I think the consumer must always be the first consideration when producing a product. So I'm definitely open to hearing what non-industry members have to say about what they do & don't want to see from a new production company. But for the purposes of this discussion, it's probably better if such input was confined to production- and distribution-related stuff. Putting aside preferences for different types of scenes & different stars for a moment, what technical things determine whether you enjoy a porn scene or not? When it comes to buying, renting, and downloading porn, what industry standard practices work for you, and which ones really turn you off? When you sign up for membership to a porn site, what (besides the name star or specific kink) are you looking for on that site?
I've asked a lot already, but I know there are questions I'm forgetting. Basically, if you have something informative or constructive to say about how porn should be made & sold, I'm all ears here.
Edited by - dkpaine on Mar 25 2017
Edited by - dkpaine on Mar 25 2017
pat362
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 1:12PM
1-Technically speaking porn producing is only legal in California and New Hampshire because both Sates have had Federal court judgements that supported their rights. That said porn is openly produced in many States so unless you are producing child pornography or bestiality than you should be fine.
2-What a porn performer earns per scene is based on multiple parameters like popularity, exclusivity, ability to generate a high level of heat to name but a few. Ultimately what usually decides how much she makes is what her asking price was and whether someone was willing to meet it. That said I imagine your average porn performer gets about 700$ to 1000$ for a standard b/g. Add at least 500$ if there is anal but significantly more if this is her first anal and even more if she also happens to be very popular.
3-Most male performer get significantly less money than their female counterpart. This is one of those industries where the gender remuneration are reverse. Women always make more money than men. That said I expect most guys make 400$ to 700$ per scene.
4-I'll let you figure out how much it cost for location and equipment rental.
5-Same thing for server space or if you are going the route of a clisp4sale store business plan.
The first and possibly most important questions you need to ask yourself is. Why do you want to shoot porn? If it's because you want to fuck porn performers and film it than don't bother. Just join one of those escort sites that advertises porn performers. It's going to cost you a hell of a lot less to fuck one of them even if you can't film it than it would to actually hire them for a porn video. The other question is two pronged. Do you have the money to shoot porn and are you okay with losing all of it when it fails to earn you any profit? I'm talking anything from 15,000$ to 25,000$ minimum.
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 2:18PM
My question for you is, if you were to be thinking of producing porn, what do you bring to the table that no one else has?
snufish
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 4:31PM
You can produce pornos anywhere in the US. If you want to produce porn like mainstream sites such bangbros you need to invest millions. You hire independent content creators who hire talent and shoot it. Bangbros, legalporno outsource their production. The owner for kink bought the armory for $14 mil to produce content in house.
You just dont come in with $10,000 and have a big popular site. You need millions, many top porn sites were started with money made from tubesites.
If you want to be talent you perv. Start a clips4sale and hire girls in your city. Tons of girls want to be pornstars.
ninja1
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 4:56PM
Price is very important to me. I'd pay $30 per month for a "perfect" pornsite that caters exactly to my specific kink with exactly the performers I want to see. $20-25 for an "average" porn site that has 50% scenes I'd download. $10-15 for a lousy pornsite that still has a few scenes I'd download.
Technical Quality - Good solid camerawork, decent lighting, decent editing are basic requirement.
"Philosophy" - I want the porn to look like it was made primarily for the entertainment of the viewer.
I don't want the porn to look like it's merely a pervy pet project to get the owner/producer laid, at my expen$e.
Edited by - ninja1 on 3/25/2017 5:02:32 PM
 
ninja1
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Posted - Mar 25 2017 : 5:00PM

Edited by - ninja1 on 3/25/2017 5:02:15 PM
dkpaine
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What if we had an orgy and nobody came?
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Posted - Mar 26 2017 : 1:03PM
Thanks to everyone who has chimed in so far. Obviously, fucking porn stars sounds like fun. But if I ever did produce XXX videos, it's HIGHLY unlikely I would put myself in them. I'd much rather go the escort route to fulfill that fantasy, and leave the on-camera stuff to the pros. Regarding the other excellent questions raised in your responses, they touch on many of the reasons why I brought the subject up in the first place. I'm a writer & aspiring filmmaker anyway, and as a long time porn fan, the temptation to get into that area of filmmaking has always been there. And having recently become a widower, I've been soul searching for several months now about what I want to do with my life going forward. So determining whether making porn is something I really want to do or just a lifelong fantasy that seems more plausible now is a matter of finding out what the job really entails and making an informed choice based on that research. Whatever I decide, I appreciate the candor & bluntness of folks in this thread.



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