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RoccoFan
Member

337 Posts
2/02
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 10:41AM
I've brought this up before, but I really don't think anyone is taking seriously what I believe to be a solid decline in the talent pool of male performers.

I know the vast majority of you are just concerned with the female talent, but for me and I suspect a large number of you, if the wood is whack the whole thing goes down the tubes. The whole point of porn (I my opinion) is the fantasy of you being there and plowing into that ass. The male performer is only holding your place because your flight was delayed or something. How can the fantasy possibly be good if my stand-in is small, thin, flacid, has no come shot to speak of, or is otherwise disappointing?

The last real performed with genuine staying power (in a business sense) has been Brian pumper and a couple of guys from New Sensations whose names escape me. Outside of the following who else provides the kind of wood necessary for high quality porn:

Rocco - THe King
Nacho
Lex
Brian Pumper
Brandon Iron- The Crown Prince
Mike Stefano
Sledge Hammer
Mandingo - getting better but has a past dotted with inconsistent performances
Erick Everhard
Jean Yves Lecastle
Mr. Marcus

I might have missed a few, but the fact remains that all these guys have been around for at least five years. Where the hell is the new talent.

RF

P.S. Manuel has fallen out of favor because HE FUCKS TOO DAMN FAST. I'ts not a friggin race!

Boat Drinks!!!

RoccoFan

Speelie
Senior Member

Fort Collins, CO
1191 Posts
5/01
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 12:54PM
I'd put in a vote for the latest Mr. Everywhere, Greg Centauro, who is turning up in every Rocco and Christoph title. Most of the Euro girls seem to get really turned on when they work with him. Lauro Giotto is another relatively newcomer (npi) who also is doing a good job. And on the "old standby" list, you can always include the reliable Leslie Taylor and Czoky Ice.
KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 2:02PM
I would like to add
Mark Wood(damn I love him)
Mr.Pete
Ben English
Lee Stone

you are right though, a porn chick lasts a year then she is replaced by the new model that just turned 18, but you see the same men forever. But I think the guys have a much tougher job for a lot less money and franlkly I am sure most girls would rather get it from a guy who knows what he's doing!!

http://www.kamiland.com

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 2:27PM
I personally wish they would replace all males with robots.
AlexPanzer
Deactivated User

1593 Posts
6/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 2:54PM
Fuckbots? Or Pornbots?

And you forgot Steve Holmes.

 
M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 3:09PM
Tony Ribas
KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 3:16PM
Tony T (he's new)
platinum6969
Platinum Pictures Inc.

53 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 4:29PM
RoccoFan wrote:

The male performer is only holding your place because your flight was delayed or something. How can the fantasy possibly be good if my stand-in is small, thin, flacid, has no come shot to speak of, or is otherwise disappointing?
------------------------------------------------------------
Hot Damn! Somebody else said what I have believed for a long time. Here are a few of my favorite male performers.

Hakan Serbes (My absolute Favorite)
Rocco
Mr. Pete
Lorenzo Loretto (our own Platinum Pictures Inc. performer)
Brian Pumper
Valentino

Now matter who is on your list I hope others will pay a little more attention to good male performers.

Walter Burns
Legendary Quoter

IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no.
7564 Posts
11/02
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 4:46PM
I must say I am a little bit perplexed by this thread.
I present a Male Performer of the Week every week on the Star Crossed forum. Not only have I seldom seen any of you make a comment on a male performer in those posts, but, much more on topic her, I can tell you that I never have a problem with finding suitable candidates for that series. Sure, I have plenty of problems finding good pictures of the performers I would want to present, but the list of possible candidates is as long as my arm.
I have posted 48 of them now. Sure, not all of them are "miracle workers", but I believe that almost none of them cannot perform. And then I haven't even picked some of the big names, such as Rocco, Tom Byron, Peter North, T.T. Boy, Michael Stefano, Mr. Marcus, Lex Steele, Mark Davis (I really woulkd like to pick him, believe me), or some big European names, such as David Perry, Philippe Dean, Ian Scott, Christophe Clark, Jean-Yves Le Castel, Richard Langin, Nick Lang, ...

I want to hear GaySatyr's opinion on these guys.




vodka tonic said:
"She's got more presence than the whole cast of giggling, pot-smoking smutlets from 'All-Natural Platform-Shoed A2M Gagging Lolitas Anal Extravaganza vol. 17'."

DenverDon
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5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 5:03PM
... and some good points you make Walter, IMO.

DenverDon

KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 5:05PM
walter
I am new to the board, I will so check out your thread
Thx!
TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 5:17PM
What's a matter, Kami? Don't you like feasting on fresh meat?

-T.C.

Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 5:38PM
I'd like to add Justin Slayer to this list of all-star porn studs. This black stallion is definitely on the rise with his own production company and he's currently making some of the hottest interracial porn on the scene today.
KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 5:55PM
D'oh how did I forget Justin Slayer! I want to add Monty along with him.

T.C.
I like men who know how to fuck, have seen it all so they don't freak out, and know what they are doing! Just my preference!

oprlvr
Member

101 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 7:04PM
I don't share the opinion that there is a lack of terrific male talent out there. In fact, I think the opposite is true. Most viewers who feel that way are probably only watching movies from a select few of the most popular companies. Each company will use the same guys in there scenes but, as a female, it is sometimes harder for me to find scenes that do not totally exclude the male (with the exception of his dick) so I like to see the best of what most companies has to offer. I'm a particular buyer and I go through reviews and screen shots before I make a purchase to be sure the DVD is going to have a scene in it with cool male talent that I can enjoy.

If you see the best movies from each of the major companies you're going to see a much larger variety of male talent than if you only see every movie that four or five companies put out which all have the same guys. I care much more about quality than quantity. So, I can watch the same male performer over and over and never get tired of him. In the last few months I have become a Michael Stefano fan. He has a major screen presence and (with the right camera style and editing) his scenes are the hottest to watch, including his older work from Armageddon and Extreme.

While I do like all of the major performers that have been previously mentioned, my taste in male talent varies quite a bit. I love the really hot performers like Trevor Zen, Billy Glyde, Brad Armstrong and so on. I also find men like Max Hardcore, Brian Surewood, Pierre Woodman and Tyce Buné fun to watch too. I wouldn't find them that attractive if I saw one of them walking down the street but in the context of an erotic production, their rough language and hardcore sex acts make them a turn on to watch.

If you're only watching the stuff that Red Light, Evil Angel, Zero Tolerance and so on release then, yes, you're going to see basically the same male performers. That's fine because they're nearly all great but if you're looking more of a variety of male talent check out Private, New Sensations, Vivid, Metro, Sin City, Elegant Angel, Hustler, Adam & Eve and more. Not only will you find more male talent but some excellent pornography too. Also, I LOVE Manuel Ferrara's fast-paced race fucking. It might not be for every viewer but it's his own personal style and super sexy!

Lori

 
KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 7:15PM
well put oprlvr!!!!
I am insanely in lust with stephano and I like ferrera too!
DoronD
Anabolic/Diabolic

132 Posts
1/04
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 7:21PM
Can't forget about John Strong and Brian Surewood.On a different subject Kami Andrews is stunning as can be. :-)

Edited by - DoronD on 1/28/2004 7:21:56 PM

KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 7:27PM
aaah shux!
Master B
Member

144 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 9:44PM
i think most of the guys are real creepy, dirty old men, or don't treat the girls well. i won't mention any names but some guys slap, spit, choke, and i've even seen guys step on girls heads while there doing them. i think the basic rule of porn is if you have a big dick it doesn't matter how unattractive you are and that's never gonna change. i would love to see normal sized guys in porn but that will never happen. in the real world most guys aren't 10 inches long.
cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 28 2004 : 10:15PM
I was going to mention Brian Surewood as my favorite 'stand-in', but I can't braid my goatee...hell, I don't even have a goatee...
Mike Quasar
Zero Tolerance

Reluctant pornographer
1765 Posts
7/01
Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 12:06AM
My two cents... in no particular order

Mark Davis
Mark Wood
Tony Ribas
Manuel Ferrara
Michael Stefano
Rocco
David Perry

..and in my own imagination; Mike Quasar!!!

Not in this lifetime

Quaze

bigbuttlover
Member

Los Angeles
253 Posts
4/03
Posted - Jan 29 2004 : 4:28PM
I think these guys are the best

Rocco-The Best
Michael Stefano
Jean Yves LeCastel
Steven Holmes
Ben English
Mark Wood
Jean Pierre Armand
Mandingo
Erick Everhard
Brett Rockman

Guys who just need to leave the business cuz they blow!
Alex Sanders
TT Boy
Wesley Pipes
Peter North
Jack Napier

Valentino??? This is the ugliest guy in the history of porn!

M.B.
Senior Member

1679 Posts
2/01
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 2:55PM
The "these guys should be in every movie list"

Lexington Steele
Erik Everhard
Rocco Siffredi
Tony Ribas
Manuel Ferrara
Nacho Vidal
Mandingo
Ben English
Brandon Iron
Mr. Bigg

The "I refuse to even rent if these guys are in it list"

Mark Davis
Joahcim Kessef - never even see this guy get a hard on, let alone keep one.
Max Hardcore - small dick
Julian St. Jox - small dick for a brother
Trent Tesero - small dick
Rick Masters
Devlin Weed
Christoph Clark
Dick Nasty
Steve Hunter
Jack Napier - can't get hard
Alex Sanders - small dick
John Strong


Edited by - M.B. on 1/30/2004 10:40:38 PM

Porn Scout
Deactivated User

3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 3:03PM
I would add Anthony Hardwood and Scott Lyons to the second part. Anthony Hardwood ought to be called nowood, in reference to his undersize penis, and Scott Lyons is just too ugly and skinny - the guy is seriously freakish looking, it's distracting.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 3:13PM
hardware puts on moderator hat
I direct your attention to the following excerpt from the Forum Etiquette rules:
If you don't like somebody, fine. Calling them ugly and freakish isn't called for.
 
astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 4:02PM
Well, as much as I hate to say it, Dick Nasty is actually rising up on my list a little for the older guys out there. He really seems to be a nice guy (I sadly never made it over to talk to him at the ADVDT party) and looks like he's having fun. I'll also give him credit for doing things most other guys won't such as getting pegged.

As for Master B's comment about how horrible all porn guys are, I can't think of one I've met who wasn't a nice guy. Although intense onscreen, Nacho, Manuel, and Steve are a riot and you can tell that they really care about the girls. Mark Davis was extremely personable The same can be said for Everhard (who I've only seen in pasing as he talked with a friend, but I've only heard one complaint about him) and Lex shows some great care in his scenes.

I think most of the complaints about porn studs arise more out of jealousy than anything! I know I'm jealous that I can't get a job like Rocco's since I'm better looking than him and make him look like a small boy.

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 8:18PM
Me, too, brother, ME TOO...
Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 9:51PM
I was wondering how long it would take for guys to start posting about the male actors that they can's stand, and to do it in a discourteous way to boot. A couple of days ago, I posted this in another thread:

"What amuses me is that some posters here on ADT can say the most crude, impolite things about male actors/directors/producers, and nobody blinks an eye, or accuses the posters of trying to stir things up. Some comments that have been posted about men , that I can remember off hand:

His cum shot is weak.
He's too old, when is he going to retire?
I can't stand looking at him, he's fat/balding/going gray (take your pick)
He fucks too fast.
His dick never gets real hard.
Why is it that black men's dicks never get that hard?
He's too handsome, so I won't watch his films
He's too ugly, so I won't watch his films
He fucks like a robot
He hires ugly chicks
Does he take Viagra? His dick stays hard after he cums.
His camera work sucks.
His editing sucks, I could do a better job.
I hate the way he does his little intro interviews in his films, I could do a better job.

And on and on and on . I know occasionally one of the women posters will state that they don't care for a particular male performer, but they will say exactly why, and will do it politely."

I brought this up in the other thread, because if someone says a negative comment about a porn actress who posts on ADT, other posters will be all over their case, telling them to take back what they said, because the actress in question is viewed as a valued member of ADT. Yet, it's rare that someone will extend the same courtesy to a male actor/director/producer, many of whom have been reading/posting on this site for a lot longer than most of the actresses.

I'm glad to see a moderator remind people on this thread to cut back on the insulting remarks. If you don't like someone, fine, but you don't have to broadcast it to the world to read about; just don't watch their movies.

As for my own likes, I prefer the styles of Rocco, Manuel, Steve Holmes, Nacho, Mark Davis, Michael Stefano, Erik Everhard, Greg Centauro, Ben Brat and a few others.

Yeah, there are guys I don't like seeing on film, some of them are even listed in prior posts on this thread, but I'm not going to say which ones, because it's not in anyone's interest to go over what are only my personal preferences anyway.

The only male actor whom I have watched, in numerous scenes, and just couldn't stand, was Phillippe Soine (I believe he doesn't perform anymore). To me, he looks like an ill-tempered French taxi driver . But, enough said.

skronker
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Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 10:03PM
I like Mark Davis -- I don;t care what anyone says. He gets a lot of mileage out of his girls, esp. the young and innocent fawns he initiates into the realm of the jizz-spattered ..... But let's not turn this into THAT kind of thread ---- >>>>Just wanted to say Cobalt that Surewood is MY stand-in, so back off! He's mine, brother!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ..... the wine is kicking in! Yay-uss! Amen!


wabbit ... wabbit ....

Edited by - skronker on 1/30/2004 10:04:03 PM

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 10:12PM
*giggle* I'm down to the last Heinie. (There's a dirty joke in there somewhere...)

I still can't braid my goatee (because I still don't have one), but he's so damn me...I made up my mind after Breakin' 'Em In #4 w/Brooke Balentyne -- he was my stand-in...MINE. God, he fucked her just like I wanted to. SOLD!! To the deviant in 'Bama. BAM BAM!

I even forgave Tony Tedeschi's turkey-neck ballsack. Oh, shit, I'm thinking of Assault that Ass #2 w/ Amee Donavan. At any rate...Damn, I am SO FAR BEHIND on my porn viewing.

You wascal...

EagleSpirit
Member

Somewhere Doing Something Stupid
439 Posts
7/03
Posted - Jan 30 2004 : 10:38PM
Well IMO any male who complains about male talent (myself included) should take a good hard look at it. Being a male performer might sound like fun, but is it really? Fucking, Fucking, Fucking sounds great but so does eating lobster every night, (for us non vegetarians). There are many times "we porn viewers" might think about how it could be done better, but if you're not willing to take the stage, shut up. If you are willing to take the stage, get a bus ticket to LA and sign with World Modeling!!
RoccoFan
Member

337 Posts
2/02
Posted - Feb 1 2004 : 9:51AM
You have got to be kidding. This guy took classes at the Jack Napier school for male porn stars. I could give a rats ass if he has his own company.

Let me be clear. Guys who didn't make the list in the original post are those that dont have cocks that can drill through dry wall. It's called a Hard-on for a reason!

Boat Drinks!!!

RoccoFan

Cindy Papa
Member

93 Posts
3/03
Posted - Feb 1 2004 : 1:16PM
Will Watch:
Peter North
John West
Mandingo
Billy Glyde
Julian
Frank Towers
Brick Majors
Brian Pumper
Vince Vouyer
Randy Spears
Omar

Will Go Out Of My Way To Avoid:
Dick Nasty, Tony Tedeschi, Kyle Stone, Blake Palmer, Mark Wood, Mr. Pete, Steve Holmes, Chris Cannon, Tony Everready, Wesley Pipes, are just the ones of the top of my head...

Asmodeus
Lord of Lust

az-mo-day-us
6338 Posts
10/01
Posted - Feb 1 2004 : 1:37PM
Hey RF, do I detect a hint of jealousy? Don't hate Justin cuz he's banging hot babes and getting paid for it, just be happy for him. If you can do better, feel free to contact Evil Angel, RLD, or Ana/Diabolic - I'm sure they would be happy to give you a shot if your man enough.
KamiAndrews
Deactivated User

48 Posts
11/03
Posted - Feb 1 2004 : 2:02PM
Justin Slayer is a good fuck :)
 
davecummings
Member

368 Posts
12/02
Posted - Feb 2 2004 : 7:38PM
As a producer/director and wood guy, I'd love to see a whole bunch of new guys in porn so that the more and more women admitting to watching porn (now that VOD and other Interent options make it easier for them to access it) will find some that appeal to their specific likes. Truth of the matter, though, is that MANY guys do indeed try to become porn stars; but, not many can actually do what they are 100% certain they can--perhaps some of us viewers think likewise(???)--namely, be "functional" (get hard quickly, stay hard, don't cum too soon, and cum within a few minutes of the Director calling for it??). As the link to "How to be a Porn Star" at my www.davecummings.com says, it is NOT about looks, dick size, muscles, etc (in that "etc", I also mean load volume--not too many females in real life want voluminous blasts of cum messing them up); rather, it's about FUNCTIONALITY. Be sure to read what I reported about directors unwilling to take yet another "chance" on yet another smooth-talking over-confident wannabe who fails under the stress of having to "produce, not just talk!

And, new guys need to know that if they take erection-enhancement pills that inhibit their specific metabolism and delays them from cumming within a few minutes of being told to cum, it might hurt their careers when directors determine which guys they will confidently use for future bookings---no one likes to wait, and wait, and wait while some pill-user whacks away for 10-45 minutes while saying what we hear so often, stuff like "this never happened to be before, I swear"; or, "I can't understand why this is happening to me", etc, all the while upsetting the waiting girl, delaying the crew from staying on schedule, costing filming momentum flow, costing more time on location (which sometimes translates into add-on late fees for "location rental"), irritating the make-up and catering folks who are put at a standstill waiting for a cum shot that's holing up almost EVERYTHING, including the other actresses and actors waiting to start their own scenes.

It's easy to criticize performers, but there's a reason why there are so few DEPENDABLE guys----it's called "functionality". If you think YOU'VE got it, please take steps to show the viewers what a stud YOU can be:-)))

End of rant (I apologize, but it's the same old thing)

Dave
www.davecummings.com

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

344 Posts
9/02
Posted - Feb 2 2004 : 8:06PM
My favorite guys of the "new talent" are Ben Bratt and Kurt Lockwood. Easy going, the girls like 'em, and they don't require much direction.

Of the current crop of established performers, I don't think anyone can touch Mike Stefano. The kid's amazing, a total package.

Haven't used Tony Ribas yet, but I'm looking forward to. Manuel Ferrara's worked for my company, but I personally haven't shot him yet, I will soon.

Always had good results from Justin Slayer, but he's only doing his own thing now.

Gotta admit though, there's a lot more guys that I won't use than ones I will. It makes scheduling a bitch, as the A list guys are usually booked far in advance.

jewel denyle
Platinum X Pictures

769 Posts
4/03
Posted - Feb 2 2004 : 9:02PM
Well I have to say anyone who put's any of these men down for doing there job is a jerk. First of all without them there is no movie unless you are into lesbo action only. Sometimes guys have an off day but we all do. My favorite new guys hitting the scene are great perfomers and some of the nicest men in porn to date. I love Anthony Hardwood he always delivers and gives me a great scene. Also these guys are great and in my movies.

Sergio
Kris Slater
Mick Blue
Ben English
Darren James

RDL and PXP Contract boyz that will all be exclusive as of March 1st include.

Michael Stefano
Steve Holmes
Manuel Ferrara
Erik Everhard
Tony Ribas
Julian
Sean Michaels
Brandon Iron

And maybe a few others soon.

RoccoFan
Member

337 Posts
2/02
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 3:53PM
I'd like to thank everyone for their input, especially the industry folks.

I make no claims of being a stud. I'm a consumer. A consumer that wants producers to produce product with traits that enhance their products and make for a more pleasurable experience all around.

Special Thanks to Dave Cummings for his insights.

RF

Dick Johnson
Member

175 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 23 2004 : 3:40PM
How dare you guys forget to mention:

TOM BYRON - The Lord of Asses.

He's been such a prolific performer/director, that you if you go to www.iafd.net and try to do a search for all his movies, you get mile-long list that is INCOMPLETE because the server timed-out due to the length of the query results :-)

Lorenzo Loretto
Platinum Pictures Inc.

9 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 23 2004 : 7:25PM
Thanks Baby Boss, in all of our meetings you never told me about this great forum. I'll talk to you when I get back to Philly on Saturday.

Lorenzo Loretto

Baby Boss
Member

7 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 1:26AM
You are welcome Sweetheart. See you when you return. By the way you have a chat on our site Saturday.

B.B.

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 2:01AM
Baby Boss,

Welcome to the forum.

Could you reduce the size of your avatar. It is too large and skews the page and the file size is too large.

This tutorial gives some guidelines for avatar pictures.

Edited to add: Lorenzo Loretto:

Welcome to the forum also.

Your avatar picture is also too large and the file size is too big.

(Neither of you have made your email address public)

Thanks.

Edited by - DenverDon on 3/24/2004 2:25:43 AM

Baby Boss
Member

7 Posts
3/04
Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 4:41AM
Thank You DenverDon,

I have called Lorenzo and asked him to comply as well.

Baby Boss

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 9:42AM
Thanks guys,

Like the avatar pics BTW.




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