Has anyone noticed that some male pornstars keep their hands all over the girl's butt during cowgirl? This is incredibly annoying, as they block the view of the girl's cheeks. Here's some news for those guys (and the directors), we paid to see the girl, get your hands off! The occasional slap on the butt is fine, but otherwise keep the hands off!
Cowgirl is my favorite position and the scene is all but ruined if hands are all over the asses covering it up her hindparts. The directors have got to say, "Cut! Cut! Cut! Dude, get your hands off of her ass...kthanks. Action!"
I am going to partially disagree. In my sex life, sometimes one of us gets a little too rambunctious or she gets a little wet and sometimes my cock gets perilously close to either falling out or being impaled on a not so soft part of her body. Sometimes the sex is hot and pulling her in by the ass cheeks helps me grind into her better. And a lot of the women I have been with like to have my hands on them during sex because they like the feel of my hands and the extra sensory input. Whatever it is, if the hands on the ass are helping make the on-screen sex hotter, leave them there. If the dude is putting his hands there just to give his hands something to do, get them out of the way.
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john_qyoo_public Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2008 : 2:50PM
I can see the merits of both. I like to see a balance between the two. I find that porn stars are a bit to cold wrt the frotage, and I always assumed this was by direction. I want to see the girl too, but I'd also like to see some eager frotage, especially in the neglected areas (shoulders, arms, legs). Edited by - john_qyoo_public on 1/6/2008 2:52:35 PM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 8 2008 : 2:50AM
I think you're right, I think it is so the guy can spread their cheeks, which is pretty stupid, even sillier is when the girl does it herself. Let that butt bounce.
honestly 95 percent of directors tell you to spread her cheeks. if you dont do it without them asking, trust me, they ask you to. sorry fellas, dont blame the performers here, blame the directors. its a directive to spread the cheeks during cowgirl.
I think we have a majority opinion here! I have been extremely disappointed in numerous scenes when the chick's ass is there for us to enjoy in all of it's wonderous bouncing and clapping glory only to be ruined by the dude's paws in the way.
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Narcissus Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 4:58AM
the girls and the guys should really take more of a stand against the directors and not get led around in a scene. our beloved porn talent, both male and female, are definitely at the top of the sexual food chain. i think they are all better at fucking and making the scene hot than some ol fat director (even one that WAS a porn star in their heyday). i agree with the majority.... directors, sit back and shut the hell up and let the STARS do what they are best at. for my money, the scenes flow so much better and feel so much more real when you don't hear some micro-managing assholes voice the whole time... "do this"...."do that", etc. that's so annoying. if you're gonna direct... get it all done BEFORE the scene or in between breaks. i think most porn views agree.... WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO JACK A NUT.
Actually, there isn't enough ass and tit grabbing in porn. It's boring to watch guy stand there pumping away like a robot not appreciating the woman's body.
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Narcissus Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 6:03AM
i agree, the assgrabbing is fine. lots of handsy stuff going on is cool with me. but let the performers do it in the heat of the moment. not with some screwy voice directing them to do so.
OMFG! You nailed is one of my BIGGEST porn peeves. I cannot tell you how often I've found myself literally yelling at the screen "Get your fucking hands off her ass" as I see beautiful ass after beautiful ass obscured by the hands of male actors. I can't remember specific actors, but some are really bad - I mean they almost never let go of the girl's ass. It's criminal! Thanks for starting this thread.
Just notice the earlier points about spreading the girl's ass. Now that brings me to another related peeve. WTF is this OBSESSION with always having to spread the girl's ass? Are we trying to make sure that nobody watching forgets that she has an asshole? LMFAO! Give me a break. There are angles that fully exploit the complete view of the girl's pussy and ass together (mish, doggy shot from above, etc.). To me, the obligatory "Open your ass!" comments from the male performer as reminders to the girls during heated fucking is usually distracting and often annoying.
That's real-life. It has no bearing on porn or how porn should be shot. Porn is to real sex like the WWF is to olympic wrestling. Not even close.
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Posted - Jan 10 2008 : 7:41PM
[/quote] That's real-life. It has no bearing on porn or how porn should be shot. Porn is to real sex like the WWF is to olympic wrestling. Not even close. [/quote] it doesn't have to be. i guess that's why there's all different flavor or porn out there. is one production really "superior" to another? i believe whatever get's your rocks off... go with that. find a production company that shares your sexual vision and twist and buy their videos. ignore the ones that don't fit you. if all else fails, quit your day job and start producing your own porn.
Friends - ButtBrother #1 here and I've got a strong opinion from another angle on this issue. While I'm not crazy over the male putting his hands on the female's cheeks when they are in cowgirl, I can live with it. I realize that porn is different from real life, but I know that when I am with a female, especially one with a big, phat ass like I like, it's almost impossible not to grab it, knead it, bounce it, tap it, hold on to it, etc., when we are in cowgirl or doggy. That's the whole point when you're a guy and you have the phat booty of your dreams there with you. Professionals or not, these guys are still FUCKING, they're still getting emotional and passionate, and many are probably still enjoying themselves while they work. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on them putting their hands on the girl's butt. It's only natural. The best thing in cowgirl is when the guy has both hands on the girl's waist or breasts, and her hips and cheeks are free to dance the way God intended. I completely agree on this asscheek spreading thing. What the fuck is that? Whether it is coming from the male talent, (Wesley Snipes was terrible about ordering girls to do this), or the director, that is just stupid and whack, and only serves to piss me off when I see it in cowgirl or doggy. UNLESS, it's required to help gain entrance for the anal, which with the bigger-butted, heavier-cheeked girls that I like, is completely understandable. What I REALLY HATE in my porn, (with respect to this topic), is WHEN THE GIRL KEEPS PUTTING HER OWN HANDS ON HER BUTT! AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! This drives me crazy. I know this is director driven. I know it is a porn staple. And it is so pervasive that many of my long time favorite porn pro starlets, who know how to hit all their marks, do it automatically without being told. I have driven myself to distraction screaming at my monitor, at people I worship, like Sara Jay, Oliva O'Lovely, Flower Tucci, and others, to TAKE THEIR HANDS OFF THEIR OWN ASS IN COWGIRL. And stop pulling your cheek to the side in doggy. I know this is a trained porn tactic, so we can actually watch the dick going into wherever it's going, (as if we didn't know already), but it defeats the whole purpose of why I love these girls. I WANT to see those assquakes and cheekwaves, and that's defeated with the girl hanging on to her own ass. With the less experienced ones, you can see it coming from the director as they are being told what to do and how to position themselves. I will be jacking along happily to a Carmen Kinsley, Emma Heart, Kelly Divine, or Krystal Jordan bouncing cowgirl, and you can follow their eyes as the director tells them to hold their cheek still, or pull it to the side or something stupid where they place their hands on their butt, and kill the sensuousness of the fucking and their natural body movements. By the time they get to say.. a Luscious Lopez status, they already know the drill and they do it kinda naturally, which chaps me to no end. It's kinda funny, because this is not near as big a problem in the big booty black girl flicks. I think it's because those directors know what we are there for, and know that the booty in all it's liquid, wobbly, glory is the star of the show. If a male loses his fuckin' mind cuz he's knee-deep in a mountain of asscheeks, and can't contain himself and grabs that ass, I feel his pain. But I want those girls to keep their hand off their ass. That's the whole reason I'm there. BSD
I like to have a nice handful of ass sometimes. But since I'm usually holding the camera for my shoots (POV) I can't grab ass all time time anyway.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 11 2008 : 3:19PM
I think its sexy when a girl spreads her own ass apart during doggie or cowgirl (esp. in POV). However, I prefer that their hands only grip the edges of their cheeks and don't obscure the entire view.
This is probably the main problem with a lot of stuff that annoys people. I see the same performers in most of the porn I watch and they generally do different things depending on who the director is. I've long suspected that a lot of the time, they're just doing what the director wants them to do.
However, I don't really think it's a big problem. Every once in a while, I think maybe the dude is going overboard fondling her butt. But I haven't seen it get really out of hand very often.
Good point BSD, I'm not a fan of this either. When watching porn, I want a clear view of the girl's ass bouncing up and down. I understand the temptation for guys to grab the girl's ass, but porn should be made with the viewer in mind.
I agree that the hands on the butt thing is frustrating to watch. I'm also not into the asscheek spreading thing, both during cowgirl and doggy, I wish directors would stop this. Some girls also just put their hands on their ass during cowgirl without spreading their cheeks, I've noticed Kaci Starr do this in a few scenes, I wish the director would ask her to stop this, we want to see the girl's ass, not her hands.
wow, i have the complete oppsite opinion, dont mind it at all. but id rather se more of caressing and grabbing instead of that rather silly spread thing.