I don't know if this qualify as gay but I know Ron Jeremy used to perform auto fellatio. It is very hard to categorize trans porn. It all depends on whether the transexual is performing with a girl, a boy or a trans. By the way, does performing autofellatio means you are gay? You might be sucking cock but it is still your own.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 3:19PM
Do you date men or women in your personal life? This question might sound stupid: why do most TS have very small dicks?
I think Kurt Lockwood got a raw deal. It is okay for Christian X to do it, but when Kurt did it, he was blacklisted. I am kinda of ticked off because I did some porn myself and had worked with Christian, then found out that he was going trannies. I can't be more disgusted.
Women. Small dicks are caused by hormone therapy and black magic.
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Tobias Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 9:07PM
Booty, you need to understand that most of BlackSix's posts begin with one of the following: (1) You misspelled... (2) You are obsessed with... Obviously, it lends nothing to the discussion. So, don't take it personally.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 10:48PM
There is no discussion going on here, you two are derailing a thread and won't shut up. BTW I hardly ever point out misspellings, please provide another example Tobias since you seem to think I do it all the time? I on the other hand can provide numerous examples of you going on and on about Christian, gays and trannies. The irony of Mr. Science misspelling a scientific word while pretending to some kind of objective, absolute scientific knowledge was just too good to pass up though.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 10:55PM
The list of performers who have done trannies and gay porn is even longer than your list suggests. I agree with you that a good hetero scene is a good scene, and who cares? But then why do you care if a trannie is a 'really a man' or 'really a woman'? I don't care what they 'really' are, out of respect for others I'll call them what they want to be called, just as one would respect the wishes of Cassius Clay becoming Muhammad Ali.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 14 2010 : 11:37PM
LOL. Mandy, in all honesty would you rather have a big cock or a small one? Based on your answer I assume you prefer girls.
I have only dated 1 guy outside of work. He was a friend that I developed feelings for, but the romance part didn't last long and the friendship was more important. Mostly I'm into gay women.
I just don't get the insistance on catagorising transsexuals as men, for me they are women, they are feminine, dress as women, look like women, and they identify as a woman, because they were born male might make them technically male but it doesn't make them men, how often do you hear people talk about what a man is supposed to be as a standard, the term "be a man" in particular, it means masculinity makes a man, femininity makes a woman, and transgendered women are women, what parts they have is irrelevant, i've never had even a second thoght when referencing a tgirl as "she", because she is a woman to me.
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 8:26PM
The truth is the truth. It is obvious and common sense. Additionally, regarding matters of science, anything I stated is the position of any and every governing scientific or medical institution in the world. If you are aware any differences, please cite them. Although, as you stated, it might be interesting to start a new thread for that. Furthermore, my first post regarding the sex of trans-sexuals, followed 9 previous posts by other members, regarding the sex of trans-sexuals in this thread. Every post I have made regarding the sex of trans-sexuals is in response to another post. The only thing my posts have in common with those of Tobias is that you like to criticize both. In fact, all you seem to do is criticize posts. Particularly, you have not yet addressed the OP in your 8 posts. In fact, you quoted a direct OP repsonse of mine in your next post! Regarding the OP: I consider sex between a man and a tranny (pre or post-op) to be gay sex, which I have no interest in watching. But it does not matter to me if a male performer in a heterosexual sex scene has had gay sex in his past performance or personal history. I do not think it matters to most, since it is not that new for even the biggest of male porn stars. I am one of the few posters, in 4 pages of posts, to address it, so maybe we do not really know or many do not really face that issue. Edited by - bootymeister on 2/15/2010 8:28:59 PM Edited by - bootymeister on 2/15/2010 8:32:10 PM
Links to any governing scientific or medical institutions in the world to back up your universal claim? Thanks.
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Tobias Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 8:39PM
Four pages arguing that a human being with a functioning penis is actually a woman...despite what your lying eyes may tell you...and BlackSix slamming anyone who says otherwise...Transsexuals are the global warming of porn.
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Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 9:58PM
What???!! Who the fuck said this? No one's argued "that a human being with a functioning penis is actually a woman"... everyone's called them by their collective name, and that's "transsexual". What are you ultimately hoping to achieve here? The attraction (or fetish, if you will), is palpable, and is felt in a large number of men who identify themselves as predominantly heterosexual... So what? A transsexual can have gender reassignment surgery and live day-to-day life as a woman (obviously without the ability to reproduce, but many women can't anyway). Again, so what? Arguing that transsexual porn is gay porn is meaningless... Gay men are, on the whole, not interested in transsexual porn, because it aesthetically looks like straight porn... And that's the niche, that's where it fits in - Somewhere in the grey area of human attraction. Something not 100% heterosexual, but causing the same reactions as if it were. Does it matter? Femininity is attractive. Primal attraction to femininity in a man is considered "heterosexual". There are transgendered women that display display very high levels of femininity in attraction and demeanour. If she whips out a penis, it challenges your own ideas about what you find sexually arousing, or how you label yourself (or tellingly, what you're AFRAID to label yourself). Sexuality, as it's been expressed many times before, is complicated. Personally, I am whatever gets my penis hard; the pattern with me is an attraction to femininity and beauty... How that actually manifests itself, doesn't really matter to me. Why the fuck is this labeling so important? It's only of importance to those with homophobia... I am whatever gets my penis hard (which is, thankfully, something that doesn't cause harm to others). That's it.
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Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 10:36PM
There's an internal conflict within what you're saying.
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Posted - Feb 15 2010 : 10:49PM
^??? Conflict in what? My whole post was making the point that "gay", straight" or your desperate need to add labels to what is found arousing, is a meaningless exercise. In this actual case, a transsexual that looks like a beautiful woman is attractive BECAUSE she looks like a beautiful woman. If that's what happens to get you off, why be so concerned about it? "Is it gay...?" "Is it straight...?" What the fuck does it matter?
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 16 2010 : 9:17AM
That guy that you briefly dated, was he straight or gay?
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 3:10AM
'Scientific or medical institutions' don't make rulings on who is and isn't a dude. Regarding the OP: Jamie Gillis, Tom Byron, Ron Jeremy have done scenes with trannies. Paul Thomas, Wade Nichols, Jamie Gillis, Jack Wrangler, George Payne, Rod Dumont, Marc Stevens, John Holmes did gay scenes. /end thread Now go start a 'are trannies really dudez?' thread where you and Tobias can post to your heart's content.
I shouldn't say never. I would date a straight man if he was a really unique and cool guy without the hangups that most straight people have. In general I date queer women. I like fucking guys, but prefer dating women.
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Len801 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 2:18PM
I'm going to ask once again: where is the evidence that Paul Thomas did gay scenes? Would the poster or anyone provide the info please (photo shoot, movie, what movie?)..
Gravity as Curved Space: Bootymeister's Theory of General Relativity 1589 Posts 11/08
Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 5:59PM
Science attempts to define every aspect of the entire universe and is a matter of fact. You should start a thread, you are obviously emotionally involved. Edited by - bootymeister on 2/17/2010 6:02:22 PM
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Tobias Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 9:19PM
By definition, any guy who dates a transsexual isn't straight to begin with - He's either gay or bisexual.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 17 2010 : 9:34PM
By definition, any guy who dates a transsexual isn't straight to begin with - He's either gay or bisexual.
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Maybe when it comes to dating however I heard many straight guys are turned on by transsexual women. They just like the idea of a woman with a cock, the taboo factor like interracial sex.Just like interracial sex, it is a fetish and it doesn't define a person' sexual orientation. They will never let a tranny fuck them and they won't go down on a tranny. They will never mess around with real men. Sex with a transsexual is pretty much limited to the straight guy doing the penetration and the tranny going down on the guy. Do you still consider that gay sex? Edited by - Zablon on 2/17/2010 9:38:17 PM
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Tobias Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 3:34AM
That's like saying that if you only let your dog penetrate you and not vice versa (no pun intended), it's not bestiality since Fido's in control.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 18 2010 : 9:55PM
Tobias,plenty of guys have been fooled by trannies. They will hold long conversations with you and tell you they are girls. Then they take you home and suck your dick, while pretending to be girls. And you won't find out they are transsexuals until they take all their clothes off. By that time it is already too late. With all the hormones and surgeries available today, they are getting better at it. Do you think you could ever fall for that trap? Do you think anyone who falls for it and gets his dick sucked is day?
Whatever they are, I'd like to see more of them in porn, providing that no condoms are used.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 19 2010 : 9:51PM
Tobias, you still haven't answered whether you can be fooled or not. I assume your answer is Yes. I bet if someone else gets fooled into getting his dick sucked by a transsexual you will label him gay.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 20 2010 : 2:51AM
I thought it was just an internet rumour as well but there's an old loop on the Vintage Erotica Forum with screen shots of good old PT in a BBB threesome. Edited to add: Just checked it Len, it is a loop from Fox Studios called Nature's Man. Can't link to it as that forum is full of rapidshare links. Edited by - BlackSix on 2/20/2010 2:55:03 AM
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Tobias Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 20 2010 : 4:16AM
A picture (especially with the help of Photoshop) can be deceiving. However, you'd have to have horrible radar to sit across from a transsexual, have a five minute conversation and not be able to tell it was a man. My honest opinion of men who are "tricked by a tranny" are that they need an excuse to justify some hidden desire to have sex with a guy. I'm not passing judgement. I'm just suggesting that folks be honest about their desires.
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 20 2010 : 12:46PM
You can tell with most but I'm sure that Kimber James chick can fool many. Another interesting question will be: do you also consider auto-fellatio gay? Ron Jeremy used to do that shit in his prime. I think John Holmes too.
^ The whole "autofellatio is gay" thing is simply bizarre. If that makes you gay, then jerking off is gay, so is swallowing your own spit...I could go on...
This is ridiculous. I can guarantee I have better tranny radar than any of you guys, and I even get fooled sometimes. My guess is you've probably just never met a passable TS and you think of Ru Paul or Robin Williams in a dress, rather than the beautiful and completely passable women who thrive in the sex industry. But I guess since its the internet people have to take your rubbish opinions just as seriously as anyone else.
FWIW, I grew up thinking RuPaul was a woman. I remember her duet with Elton John came out when I was a teen, and I didn't know she was a drag queen until a good while later. That probably says more about me than anything else though.
ok, this thread and discussion is amusing me! If I was to take a BJ off of a "tranny", whom I thought was female and latter found out was male, I couldn't give a toss! I'm hardly gonna start running around slapping my face, shouting "oh fuck I'm gay"! His body and lack of feminity has been disguised from me, I just got fooled! I somehow doubt that a dude can transfom his whole body into a plausable female but even if he could and have a vagina made and then was to fool a guy, wtf does this prove about the person who was fooled? (edited out some typo's) Edited by - bobcat on 2/21/2010 10:29:15 AM
So then there must be at least 1 or 2 transsexuals on television whom the public does not know are transsexuals. And which personalities might those be? At this point, feel free to retreat to your back up phoney buloney argument that "outing them would put their lives in danger."
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Zablon Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 21 2010 : 2:40PM
Mandy have you been approached to work with big names like Ron Jeremy, Peter North or Mr Marcus? I think Peter North has done those types of movies in his younger years. From what I heard there is high demand for TS movies right now and that means a big chick for you and those guys. Will you be open to working with those 3 guys I mentioned?
Kathy Griffin and Lady Gaga. And I'm not sure when I argued that "outing them would put their lives in danger", one doesn't argue simple facts. Transgendred people are murdered quite frequently, it is not an argument and certainly not a phoney baloney one.
No, I didn't know Ron Jeremy and Peter North were still making movies. I would be just as open to working with those guys as I would any of the other male stars I've shot with.
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