All Forums > The Porn Pool > The Porn Pool Forum Page 631 > Man Talk in POV Movies...Why?!!
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pornopunk
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Posted - Feb 9 2005 : 7:36PM
If POV movies are about fantasy were the viewer is pretending to fuck the female. Why in the hell is the "stunt dick" talking during the scene? I think it's a fair question.

Other than Peter North's POV, is there any other POV movies were the guy is quiet throughout the scene?

-PornoPunK

McX
Maxstretch.com

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Posted - Feb 9 2005 : 7:40PM
You make an excellent point. Sometimes there is no way to communicate direction except vocally, but I edit as much out in post as possible.

Peace out...

McX

DenverDon
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Posted - Feb 9 2005 : 8:03PM
Vince Voyeur's "Multiple POV" #1

Two girls POV style on the Vince Dick. No talking whatsoever except by and from the girls.

If you want the 'silent' shooter, don't bother with #2.

DenverDon <<<<[[[[

pornopunk
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1343 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 10 2005 : 5:29PM
I guess POV without man talk is pretty hard to find. Anyone else got any suggestions?

-PornoPunK

PL
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Posted - Feb 10 2005 : 7:03PM
 
chadtsui
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Posted - Mar 4 2005 : 1:32AM
if only I could shoot some POV movies, I'd have more than a few innovations I'd like to add into the filming and directing process. But definitely cutting out the male speech from the movie would be one of them!
pornopunk
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 3:11AM
I rented Steve Holmes Anal POV Sluts and now I know I will never spent another penny on a POV movie other than Peter North's POV. He talked way too much through out the whole movie. I don't even remember the girls I just saw!!! I wish directors would think about the people who watch their movies.

POV is for guys who want to imagine what it's like to fuck a porn chick. How is that possible it the guy talks through the whole thing? Guys talk too much in all other types of movies. Is it too much to ask for guys to be quiet shooting POV?

I'm I missing something about the point of POV films? Maybe someone could enlighten me if I am...

-PornoPunK

juha
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 3:26AM
I recommend the PERVERTED POINT OF VIEW series from Diabolic.

Edited by - juha on 5/19/2005 3:26:59 AM

Ramsey
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 12:52PM
In my opinion all POV movies are a waste of money because none of the directors can get it right, not counting Rodney Moore of course.

And I don't like guys talking at all in movies, not just POV movies.

Endless Loop
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 1:44PM
A dexterous assistant with cue cards?

I would expect 15 - 20 max, beyond that, sign language.

If they can't read?

Cute deaf chicks'll work.


oh yeah, and the director can't be the lucky one getting his dick sucked, only the cameraman.

So I guess you could say, that leaves the director, holding all the cards.


Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/19/2005 2:08:52 PM

pornopunk
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 5:19PM
I've learned my lesson about POV movies, and like I said before, I'm not going to waste money on them ever again, except the Peter North series. I spent 4.95 to rent Anal POV Sluts and I still feel ripped off! Seems like porn companies are letting anybody direct POV these days...

I don't mind using the mute button for other movies,cuz I have learned to watch 90% of porn that way. Usually the more established guys are the loudiest. Occasionally you are lucky enough to get a scene or two when the guy doesn't make too much noise but it's rare. It's getting harder and harder to find good porn nowadays, but it's out there.

-PornoPunK

Tonto
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 5:43PM
I just saw Down the Hatch #14, and the guy chatter was non-stop, really irritating.
My theory is that since these guys don't actually use the end product, they just don't get it.
Chrostas
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 6:34PM
Yes it is truly sad when adult actors lose grasp of the fact they are not doing it for THEIR pleasure, but the viewer's.
With this logic they should use positions that feel better for the performers, and to hell with blocking the camera!
WAY too much men talking in porn.
Ease of use and outsider visibility are somewhat exclusive, yet the actors need to SHOW us what's up. If the camera doesn't get it, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
By the same token, STFU. We DON'T want to hear man to man bragging banter. We are NOT interested in long close ups of the MAN'S reaction either, if the woman isn't visible. Many of my friends can't stand most porn because to much Hairy Man Ass is visible too. They prefer cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, as the naughty bits lead the eyes away from said HMA.
Steve Holmes
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 8:04PM
Dear PornoPunK,

if you would have asked before in this forum I could have helped you save money and time. Yes, I talk a lot during my scenes and I also don't take the POV theme to strict. Sometimes I even point the camera that you can see the both of us.

I know some guys who shoot POV movies and have people who help with holding the camera because they cannot hold it steady during the CUM shot or certain positions. For me POV means the intimacy of just two people in the room. I don't care about shaking and talking is an important part to get connected to the girl.

I released only one POV movie so far. The first reviews from dandaman and bono-ONE were not that bad.

Soon Anal POV Sluts #2 will be released. And again there is a lot of talking.

Steve Holmes

diegoiglesias69
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 8:31PM
steve,

ahh...i see hilary scott and melissa lauren in anal pov slut #2....im wondering that melissa lauren talk alot like dirty....hmmm....yeah....im just wondering....


later

 
pornopunk
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 8:33PM
Thanks for replying and explaining your view of POV to me. I hope you didn't take my opinions as a personal attack on you because it wasn't. I'm very aware of the forum etiquette and I wouldn't do that, because I wouldn't want anyone to attack me personally. Besides, I've never even met you. I was just venting my frustration over the product and my expectations of what I want to see in POV. I did read the reviews, and though they mentioned some talk. It was more than I expected.

I did rent before buying, and as a consumer of porn that's all you can do if you're not familar with the product you are thinking of buying. Anyway, you can't please everybody because that would be impossible. Once again, thanks for taking the time to respond. Good luck with Anal POV Sluts 2 and all of your future releases.

-PornoPunK

Edited by - pornopunk on 5/19/2005 8:42:04 PM

Steve Holmes
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 10:25PM
Dear PornoPunK,

I didn't feel attacked by your post. I'm a strong believer in free speech. I'm aware that many people do not like my product and it is their right to express their opinion.

I feel lucky and privileged that their is enough people who rent and buy my movies. It enables me to make a living by fulfilling my fantasies.

Steve Holmes

Endless Loop
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Posted - May 19 2005 : 11:14PM
Geez Steve, If everyone could get as much as you, as often as you, eventually become as appreciative as you, until finally were all as content as you, I think we'd have the answer to world peace.

Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/19/2005 11:23:44 PM

Walter All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 20 2005 : 2:33AM
This is a reply to Pornopunk's original post.

The following paragraph reflects my thoughts on talking and other audio aspects of porn in general:

I agree with your sentiment for the most part. I don't mind if they talk a little before the scene begins (mostly to help get the women talking), but I like for the guys to be quiet during the actual scene. However, I often enjoy hearing a woman's talking or other sounds and the overall sounds of sex. I usually do not like music soundtracks because they mask the sounds I want to hear. The audio aspect of porn is probably not given as much thought as it could be, since the visual component is obviously so important. The audio aspect can help project the energy of a scene. Of course, obviously fake dramatics are not appreciated.

If I recall correctly, Swallow Me POV and Swallow Me POV 2 by Devil's Films has relatively quiet guys.

With regards to Peter North's POV series, I agree that it is outstanding. I have not seen any porn with better sound and picture. My only minor criticisms / suggestions for this series:

1. I prefer sex (and especially blowjobs) to last longer than they do in this movie.
2. I would prefer to watch longer movies. 90 minutes seems a little short, and many companies put out much longer movies.

Does anyone know if the outstanding picture and sound quality is only possible because the run time is relatively short?

juha
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Posted - May 20 2005 : 4:25AM
+1
juha
Senior Member

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Posted - May 20 2005 : 4:33AM
I agree with you that Peter is a bit stingy.
A two hour running time wouldn't do any harm to picture and sound.

But the usual Chico Wang running time, three hours and more, is definitely a quality killer.

HillaryScott
Member

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Posted - May 20 2005 : 6:43PM
Well, I'm happy to inform you that in Anal POV Sluts #2, in my scene I'm very loud and verbal as usual, so you shouldn't hear Steve's sexy voice as much. In my opinion, if the girl is doing her job and being a dirty filthy whore, you shouldn't even be able to hear the guy even if he does talk. Nothing could distract you from a good screaming anal orgasm!

P.S. Thanks Steve, I have a new favorite box cover!

Edited by - hillaryscott on 5/20/2005 6:43:42 PM

Keebler Elf
Member

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3/05
Posted - May 20 2005 : 6:55PM
Cuz the guy wants more than just his dick in the movie. I've seen quite a few really hot scenes ruined by the guy babbling on about something or other. Just shut up and shoot the scene.
Renee
Member

765 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 20 2005 : 10:57PM
RainCoater's Point of View #3? No man talk? I beg to differ.

In nearly every scene, you can clearly hear Vince Vouyer telling the girls what to say, in this disembodied voice coming from behind the camera. It's creepy and hilarious all at the same time.

The funniest scene is the first one with Mandi Bright. Vince's voice is clearly audible about 10 times in this one. Vince tells Mandi to say things such as "Do you like Hungarian pussy?"
She repeats this 2 seconds later as "Do Yuuu like Hungarion poosey?"

Have a look at lindi's review here on ADT. Her comment about this scene reminding her of a Saturday Night Live skit is right on.


Edited by - Renee on 5/20/2005 10:58:31 PM

scipio
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Posted - May 20 2005 : 11:03PM
Thanks Renee, that cracked me up!

scipio

 
PL
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 10:56AM
Renee,

Fair enough, I was going on a very loose recollection. We can scratch that title off the list

1on1Fan
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 12:07PM
I don't care about Man Talk in POV movies, what i care is Camera work, i think only Mike John (and maybe Vince) does True POV -movies.
Swallow me POV was bad, i was going to review that, but making camera work comments with my bad english is little too hard, i did quit making that review.
But this is what i have wroted so far.

Swallow me POV camera work comments:
POV movie with Pussy licking, Kissing, Side views(Camera angle), and Camera sometimes under guys balls or behind his ass is really not a POV movie.
This is more like Cameraman gets laid, sometimes he was holding the camera, sometimes not.
When he is holding it, Camera is POV or Side view -angle, his Camera work was sometimes little shaky and/or sometimes zoomed too close.
Sometimes camera was on tripod or just somewhere, because footage was steady and no zooming or moving.
And maybe he did use another Cameraman during Pussy licking.

Something like 90% or more was True POV footage during Blow job, except scene 1, half was True pov in that one during bj.
And something like 33% was True POV footage during fucking, so 66% or even more was something else.

PS: Comments are maybe ready, but i'am not sure if i'am going to deduct points, because camera work really did suck a lot, only 33% was True POV. But currently i'am not even making it.
PPS: i did go off topic:)

Edited by - 1on1Fan on 5/21/2005 12:48:43 PM

morbidthoughts All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 12:42PM
JustAnotherDude
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 2:05PM
I can stand a little talk, but what really bugs me is when the director swings the camera around to show a close-up of his face!

Mike John, I love your POV Pervert series, but you have to stop the sudden point-blank camera shots at your face in the middle of the action. Major fantasy killer.

We all know you are in the movie, you name is on the cover, and we can see you in the behind-the-scenes stuff. Just edit that out of the action, please?


Edited by - JustAnotherDude on 5/21/2005 2:22:25 PM

mike john
Mike John Productions

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Posted - May 21 2005 : 4:04PM
I have killed my own wood with those stupid mug shots,they are officialy banned.

Edited by - mike john on 5/21/2005 4:05:11 PM

JustAnotherDude
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 4:18PM
Thanks!
Walter All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 21 2005 : 7:15PM
Thank you Mike John. The ban will be greatly appreciated! (They were always at the worst times, too). Keep the POV coming!



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