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jjames
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3/04
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 9:34PM
Can somebody please tell me what the story is with Mandingo??
I would have imagined this guy should be one of the most marketable guys in the industry - can anybody please explain to me then: why he is nowadays working with second class companies and working with z class talent in low budget badly shot flicks. Even if you take beforehand he did not shoot too much but when he did he shot for half decent companies like Jules Jordan, Evil Angel, Elegant Angel etc., but now his work is totally off the radar.
Surely somebody should work out that giving this guy his own contract breaking in the newest talent in the industry should be a winner??
ipop
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1/06
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 10:02PM
I don't know about putting him with all the newest talent. The guy has the biggest, hardest dick in the biz--he'll tear them all up and run them off.
Crucifixio_Jones
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10/03
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 10:02PM
"Biggest"? Sure. But calling Mandingo "talented" is probably the most glaring inaccuracy in your post. Maybe THAT is why he is where he is, doing what he's doing. I honestly haven't missed him. And "hardest"? Where? When?
Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 10/26/2007 10:03:51 PM
picman
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Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 10:20PM
I'm pretty sure that Mandingo could be working for anybody he wants to, and basically chooses to work where he is. He's not the most dynamic of performers, but as one NBA GM once said: "You can't teach size". Erection issues are overstated when applied to him. He's a veritable steel beam compared to Jack Napier, who has a much more high profile gig than Mandingo. One thing that might be holding him back is his decision not to do anal. That's as limiting for him as it is for any woman making the same decision. Still, he's got some series built around him at WCP, the company that basically made him, and I'm sure he's not wanting too much for money or good pussy.
cubesnake
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3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 26 2007 : 11:18PM
Hi,
Even though i (basicly) like seeing him, i often don´t like the "routine" he is doing. In almost every scene "he" get´s his "snake" out. "HE" tells the girls to do this or that. When the girls grab his snake and start to go at "it" "he" stops them and has them lick his balls instead. I think he can´t stand too much action on the glans. I´ve never seen a girl stroke his dick with her feet. I wanna see some scenes where the girl takes "all" the control. I´d love to see Jenna Haze have him sit comfortable and then give him the handjob of his life until "she" makes him shoot like a geysir ...
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Edited by - cubesnake on 10/26/2007 11:20:36 PM
 
Breetai
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7/07
Posted - Oct 27 2007 : 5:09AM
Mandingo is an interesting case of a guy with all the physical assets who isn't living up to his potential.
For sure, he doesn't have a marketable attitude and image on camera. That's not to say he has a "bad attitude" in the normal sense (like Brooke Banner did early in her career), just that he's not aggressive, not confident, not a show-off. He seems like a good guy but not a good performer.
Considering the number of years he's been in the business and the number of scenes he's done, he's has surprisingly little feel for what action looks hot on camera and can't generate chemistry with the girls. He reminds me of Amy Reid early in her career -- all the physical assets, but she didn't seem to enjoy herself, and she wasn't very skilled at fucking -- except Amy has improved her skills quite a bit (even if she still can't fake that she enjoys being fucked up the ass by a stranger), while Mandingo is still just as passive as always.
He has the added problem of not being able to take much stimulation before suffering from premature ejaculation. I'm willing to cut him more slack on that, because every pussy is probably ultra-tight for him, and we can't expect that a guy lucky enough to have a cock size bigger than 99.9999% of men would also happen to be lucky enough to have endurance longer than 95% of men. As long as he fucks the girl good and delivers a huge load, it's not a big deal if the scene is relatively short.
What really BUGS me about Mandingo, though, is the combination of his passive style with his lack of endurance, making him run from the girls in almost every scene. There are few things more depressing to watch on screen than a guy with a M-O-N-S-T-E-R cock constantly pulling out and looking terrified that he's going to cum early. He's got the cock and he doesn't use it.
What he needs to do is take a page from Lexington Steele (a great performer), who in his more recent work doesn't hesitate to go all-out with the girls and just pops several times in his scenes -- so much the better. For one thing, when you hear him saying "oh shit that pussy is good" it means Lex is going to fuck her like crazy and pop on her several times... but with Mandingo it means he's going to fuck her 10 seconds at a time while looking worried.
Like the original poster said, though, Mandingo's productions are often poor quality. I remember watching one video not too long ago where he did probably six scenes all on the same BED... and obviously on the same DAY... because his loads ranged in size from decent to LITERALLY completely non-existent... and it was obvious that he filmed them back-to-back and his balls were completely spent by the end... one of the worst performances I've ever seen. I don't get it... he could be one of the top male talents in the industry if he'd just work on the details of making good porn.
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Posted - Oct 27 2007 : 12:51PM
I like his work for different companies as a performer. PXP, Evil Angel, Jules Jordan. I may not like him as much if he was overexposed and I had to see him in almost every film. He's unique and that's what makes him special.
Hypermastia
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6/07
Posted - Oct 27 2007 : 8:08PM
Without Responding With To This BullShit Criticizm (And It Is BullShit) with a long essay of why you are all wrong, I'll just type this:
I am a retailer. 99% of my business is with in-store customers. Only two names are spoken when a customer is looking for something specific in a sex film: Lexington Steele, and much more often, Mandingo.
He sells the shit out of movies. The DVDs where he fucks a starlet in the ass are the top sellers. Check out Big Black Beast #1, or Lethal Hardcore's interracial titles. His West Coast Titles Are Also Fantastic Sellers.
He Moves Product, And THAT'S what matters in this business as in any other.
All the current, younger male talent out thereis a joke. I personally won't watch their crap. Only Peter North and Rodney Moore continue to produce quality DVDs. Jules Jordans stuff is good, wat it's waaaaay too expensive even as 2 disc packages.
Beaumont Livingston
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9/05
Posted - Oct 27 2007 : 11:15PM
I think Mandingo gets hated on way too much. I've only seen his work for Jules and the scenes have pretty much delivered every time. Even the Kayla Marie scene when he popped too early was hot because it legitimately seemed like Kayla's pussy was too good for him.
Asmodeus
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10/01
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 12:36AM

Edited by - Asmodeus on 11/3/2007 10:29:41 AM
messhuga
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3/07
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 12:59AM
Dingos biggest problem is that he can't hold his Nut.
His performances have been getting even worse in recent years despite him being popular with the Punters.
He continues to disappoint unfortunately.
His best scene ever was the one with Avy Scott.
He actually had energy and he had great chemistry with her.
His Scenes with Jules have also been good,but he does not work with Jules anymore.
I do agree that he is a great waste of talent.
Pocketcomb_Pimp
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7/03
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 4:55AM
Truth be told, the bigger they are, the faster they fall. Lex is the all time Big Boy in my book and Sean would be second. Everyone else has been half limp fro most of their career and sean ain't helping his cause 20 years later.
cubesnake
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3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 5:02AM
Hi,
I don´t doubt that he sells good but that doesn´t wipe away the (if you want to call it) problems a lot of people see with him. I got all 10 DVDs from WCP called "MANDINGO". But if you´ve seen one or two there´s not much variety to come in the next volumes. It´s always the same like i described it in my first post. If i "just" wanted to see a huge penis i might as well visit a stallion. Don´t get me wrong .. i don´t hate the guy ... i just don´t buy any product which features him as the only male anymore ... i think i would already know what to expect ...
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Schmse
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6/04
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 3:33PM
He's huge, yes. But he's boring. Lexington Steele always fucked the girls. Mandingo just puts his dick inside the girls (mostly only halfways) and moves a bit.
And: His cumshots are really thin. Never saw a big load in his scenes.
I don't miss him. Some people like him, some not. If he's ok, then it's alright...
Hypermastia
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6/07
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 3:59PM
watch how fast he fucks Mandy Bright all the way up her ass in Lethal Hardcore's "Big Black Beef Stretches Little Pink Meat #1"
Monica Sweetheart takes him vigorously up th butt in "White CHicks getting Black Balled #2" and in "Mandingo #5"
He's the man, and he's never flacid, unlike some of the other giant male talent out there.
 
mapofhawaii
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3/06
Posted - Oct 28 2007 : 10:59PM
Don't really have anything to say about the Mandingo question, but what is with calling Jules Jordan, Evil Angel, and Elegant Angel "half-decent" companies? What do you consider good or great companies?
Aplus
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5/05
Posted - Oct 29 2007 : 4:04PM
Having talked to many adult industry people over the years, I now know that performing on film isn't always nearly as easy as the guys make it look. So that is something I always keep in mind when watching a sex film. Despite all the criticism here, I know that Mandingo is generally very popular everywhere else on the net. Mandingo used to have a website that allowed him to talk with his fans.
I do know at one time he didn't want to work without weariing a condom, and I suspect he lost a lot of work because of it. Just my suspiction, I have no proof. I always know he has a no kissing rule. I personally think that is his only true flaw onscreen. Some of the women do like to kiss or displays of affection. Because of it, I think he, or other performers with the same rule, tend to not always connect with who they are onscreen with. I actually think he's generally a pretty good performer though, but do wish he would allow himself to relax more and just let-go more. By let go, I don't mean just fuck every woman with a abandon. His huge dick, which honestly looks longer than ruler, simply doesn't always allow that. I've seen very few women take him balls deep, with most getting only half-in at best. He can do other things though, and unfortunately doesn't seem able or willing to do them.
I've seen almost every male performer have erection problems over the years. Can't always be easy to fuck someone that you don't want to fuck or who doesn't want to fuck you. Not sure what films guys are watching, because I've rarely seen Mandingo have erection problems in his films. I actually he's one of the most consistent among guys in his size-range.
Not sure why he's not more known or popular among the industry. I do believe that black males generally have to work twice as hard in the industry to get worldwide attention among fans and especially the industry. The more well known female performers simply refuse to work with them, and their huge sizes and/or girths doesn't always make it easier either. And then there is the respect issue. Most of the work I've seen by him have been with West Coast Productions. I personally love films by that company, but they don't seem to have the respect, budget, or clout of say Evil Angel. Fans these days expect superior product, and perceptions still exist. Not saying I agree with it or think it's right, but do think they are there.
To me, Mandingo is like a modern-day John Holmes without the outside issues and problems, or onscreen wood issues. Like Holmes though, he doesn't really work that often, which adds more mystery to him.
A-ten
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8/07
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 1:42AM
I don't much buy porn with guys with oversized dicks like Mandingo or Lex. They bore me. They are so large they often don't fit all the way in the girl and only a few girls can do much to make a really hot scene with them because the size of the member probably is uncomfortable.
So I would think guys the size of Mandingo are mostly useful in novelty porn that caters to a market that likes to see girls try to fit a dick that big into them. For me, the fact that they have to be so careful when fucking ruins the scene.
Maybe there are a few girls can take someone like Jack Napier, Lex, or Mandingo railing away as hard as they can go, but even an average porn girl who has fucked alot isn't going to enjoy that all the time. It shows in the performance. So I generally avoid such flicks unless a girl I like is performing with one of them.
Dude Love
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80 Posts
8/07
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 2:50AM
While I enjoy seeing a hot broad getting filled to beyond her full enjoyment as much as the next guy, these super big dudes always seem to be a bit of a waste... I mean most of the time they still have 4 or 5 inches that don't even get a look in! And a lot of the time the chick just looks uncomfortable... Plus they will, probably, never enjoy the briliance of being deep throated... Sometimes having a obscenely large cock has it's disadvantages...
Me, I'm quite happy with the 9 inches God blessed me with.
cubesnake
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3858 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 4:45AM
Hi,
Sorry man, but your wife must be HEATHER then ?
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Dude Love
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80 Posts
8/07
Posted - Nov 11 2007 : 3:44AM
And even she struggles... But you mom really hits the spot!!!
phatasslover
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6/07
Posted - Nov 11 2007 : 12:37PM
I like mandingo though I think as a performer, he is nothing special. Bit dull. Still with a massive dick like that, it doesnt really matter.
For me, its a bit of a waste though since he doesnt do anal anymore. I would rent pretty much any flick with him doing anal. Seriously, who wouldnt want to see a chick getting drilled by a foot long cock?
imak
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3345 Posts
2/04
Posted - Nov 11 2007 : 1:37PM
I think he might be the kinda guy affected by what's going on in his life, if he's not into it he's way not into it. I worked with him once when I wanted to buy him dinner after, and I worked with him once when I fucked the camera guy after.
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Nov 12 2007 : 2:20PM
I'm guessing he has to be kind of gentle otherwise he could cause some serious damage deep inside the girl like bleeding or something?
I'm not 100% sure yet because I still have to watch the brother in action but I think this new guy Dexter can beat Mandingo when it comes to size!
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Nov 12 2007 : 2:35PM
Looks I was wrong, Dexter = fake cock.
 
Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Nov 12 2007 : 8:16PM
I forget -
Was *I* shooting camera that day?
imak
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Posted - Nov 13 2007 : 7:43PM
*sniff*
DK7
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Posted - Aug 31 2020 : 6:58PM
ipop's comment says it all.
He's got the biggest dick in the business, he's all three long, very thick n black.
My boyfriend loves his movies so do I he's not good looking & his body is nowhere near to other black guys like Isiah Maxwell & John E Depth but his cock is the biggest. We've watched all of his movies right back to the first one he did he's fucked a lot of women on camera & only 2 could take it all not many if any porn stars would go there after him
wolvie667
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Posted - Nov 28 2021 : 11:42AM
BTW is it true that he got the name "Mandingo" from an episode of Married with Children in where Marcy Darcy has a fantasy with Mike Tyson???
InstantClassic
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Posted - Nov 28 2021 : 12:22PM
I don't think it has anything to do with Marcy Darcy. It was also long before Mandingo's career. I don't want to say anything wrong now, but Mandingo refers to a tribe in West Africa. Maybe Mandingo the performer has ancestors there, or it's due to the uncreativity of the industry.
WillCle216
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9/21
Posted - Nov 28 2021 : 6:55PM
The origin of the word used in modern society is from a book and a 70's exploitation movie.
Mandingo (novel)
Mandingo (film)

It's basically a racist stereotype for black men.
But I don't think the name is the reason he hasn't become a big star in porn.
I find it weird he hasn't done more with blacked.com

I think he gave himself the name "Mandingo" , maybe it's a think of taking the word back or something. I never really had a problem with the name( in porn) and don't find it offense to use in porn
but that's me


Edited by - WillCle216 on 11/28/2021 7:00:04 PM

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Posted - Nov 29 2021 : 6:36AM
^
There was an African guy not sure from where exactly Gambia or Senegal , anyway he has been ubiquitous on many italian TVs for his soccer knowledge , he said more than once he was a Mandingo referring to that as an ethnic group ,anyway There is an entry on the Wiki referred to them as Mandinka and a song sung by Sinead O' Connor "Mandinka" but I'm not sure it's actually related to that I don't remember any reference to any black man in the lyrics

Anyway I don't think that mandingo as a word is derogative quite the contrary , the Mandingo in the movie was quite a man furthermore he was portrayed by Ken Norton a Heavyweight World Champion also seen as a positive man

Though I admit I don't recall the movie very well I seem to remember some sexual exploitation but I'm not sure whether it really was in the movie or the knowledge of Mandingo in porn confuses me .


Edited by - LCF on 11/29/2021 6:41:33 AM

WillCle216
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Posted - Nov 29 2021 : 9:18AM
I'm not saying the actual definition is wrong or that there isn't a race of people from western Africa. I'm just giving what modern western society believes Mandingo means and that is what is perceived as racist.
If you like to know more about the book and the movie, just read the link I posted

Edited by - WillCle216 on 11/29/2021 9:26:29 AM

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Posted - Nov 29 2021 : 10:24AM
^
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I still don't get why is it racist?
I mean since when being a victim is a failure? Or referring to a victim is racist unless of course you're defending that status , here when we say that someone he's a mandingo, we mean he's big boy, a large , muscled black man , more related to Norton's body than to his condition in the movie , maybe in Europe we give a complete different meaning to it
WillCle216
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Posted - Nov 29 2021 : 11:46AM
It's a stereotype of black men, not ALL black men have huge dicks, bro.
That's why some people would see it as somewhat racist. It's like you making black men nothing but sex objects. Again, in porn it's different.
I'm just trying to explain why some people would see it as racist. again, I don't think it's horribly racist and it's a lot better than saying BBC.
I'm not from Europe and don't know how some black people from there feel about the word.
 
biggins
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Posted - Nov 29 2021 : 12:30PM
I liked Mandgo. His scenes with Emily Austin were awesome
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Posted - Nov 30 2021 : 6:28AM
When I say we use the word for large black men I didn't mean men with large dicks i meant muscular men , with broad shoulders a body like that of Ken Norton , we wouldn't use it to refer to a large as in fat black man and, of course , we wouldn't know what kind of dick he has , and I'm perfectly aware not every black man actually has a BBC so to speak, not even in porn , the Dingo is just a black man who just used the "large" meaning of it but not for his muscles.

I don't know how black men here feel about it, but remember they are mostly African Immigrants many of which are actual Mandingos (say those from Ghana or Senegal and partly from Ivory Coast) , what would a real mandingo/mandinka say if you call him as such? As I said before one of them kept saying he was time and again on TV he was proud of it.


I understand though that in the USA it's a sensitive button and reactions may be different, but then again all the Africans here came on their own will,some even came against our will too nobody forced them to , it's a completely different situation we have here from the USA

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