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| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Radley Metzger’s last hardcore effort under his Henry Paris nom-de-film is finally available on DVD from Video-X-Pix. Well, they saved the worst for last – and by that, I _don’t_ mean from a content standpoint! While Maraschino Cherry is generally regarded as the weakest of that group of films, even Metzger’s weakest efforts far outstrip those of most of his porn peers and successors, IM (and many others’) HO. No, in this case, “worst” applies to the incredibly poor job Video-X-“Pukes” has done in producing this DVD! You think some of the earlier Caballero stuff sucks? Well, step right down to a new low! They ought to take the VXP folks down to Maraschino’s dungeon and do to _them_ what she and Annette Haven do to C.J. Laing in the film’s finale! First, some general comments. The print they used to make the transfer must have come off of years and years of being kicked around in various decrepit projection booths and basements! It’s in _terrible_ shape! The color has shifted significantly and now has a heavy magenta tone (the old Eastmancolor fading/shifting problem – which tells you just how old this piece-of-crap print is!) The entire print (_not_ just before and after reel changes) is full of splices (looks like quite a few people snipped out frames to mount as slides). Many of these splices result in the loss of a few seconds of screen time during important parts of the scenes, and, in one case, eliminate one of the cum shots! As if that’s not enough, the print is extremely scratched and dirty for its entire length, making watching it a real chore. These films may often be called “dirty pictures,” but on a new DVD we _at least_ ought to have a clean print! The framing is almost as bad as the print – it is, literally, the _worst_ of all possible worlds! It appears that this film (like many of Metzger’s others of the era) was shot in Super 16. This process uses the space on the 16mm camera negative that otherwise would be occupied by the soundtrack for additional picture area. This results in an aspect ratio of about 1.66 or something like that. So you get a "widescreen" image, which is then blown up to 35mm (matted) or slightly reduced to 16mm (matted) release prints in an aspect ratio of between 1.66 and 1.85. Most DVD transfers of these films are full-frame blow-ups, with the video frame centered on the original widescreen image, so that part of each side of the original frame is cut off on video. (You can’t really call these “pan-and-scan” versions, since the video frame is locked in the center position – it neither pans nor scans.) Well, folks -- VXP has found a new and nauseating way to screw even _that_ up! The print they use is a widescreen, matted one, probably with a 1.85 aspect ratio. Did they do a widescreen, letterboxed transfer to show us the entire frame as originally intended by the director and as seen in the theater? No. Did they do a full-frame blow-up, with the video frame centered on the original widescreen image? NO! What these “vidiots” have done is a _partially_-letterboxed, _somewhat_ blown-up transfer that is locked into the _far-left_ portion of the frame! The result is an image that has very narrow black bars at the top and bottom of the picture (just enough to be obtrusive), and which is consistently (and annoyingly!) mis-framed left-of-center! In certain scenes, originally intended to be two-shots, you can hardly even see the _nose_ of the person who should be on the right! Finally, to add insult to already considerable injury, VXP has seen fit to periodically slap its _logo_ on the lower right corner of the frame throughout the film, apparently (at minimum, perhaps more often – I lost count) at the start of each “chapter” of the DVD, even further obscuring the image and distracting the viewer from watching the film! At least when some other DVD producers do this, it’s meant to signal a “Multiple Angles” part of the disc, so the logo at least has some reason for being there. Not so, in this case – it’s just VXP reminding us who’s responsible for this piece of D-igital V-ideo D-reck! Now, let’s discuss the actual (surviving) content of the film. Given all of the above-mentioned idiocy, you didn’t actually expect the _entire film_ to be there, did you? Once again, VXP has lived down to our lowest expectations! The DVD runs 73 minutes, 10 seconds, actual clock time. The older VHS release (late ‘70s or early ‘80s) to which I compared it side-by-side, shot-by-shot, runs 84 minutes, 29 seconds. So, we are missing 11 minutes, 19 seconds. But here’s the kicker -- it is quite curious to note that they have _not_ deleted the _one scene_ which, I’d venture to say, most people probably _expected_ them to delete. The final “dungeon” scene, with a decidedly S&M feel, involving Gloria Leonard, Annette Haven, C.J. Laing, a hotplate, two glasses of scotch and a couple of dildos inserted anally, is still there! Or at least _mostly_ there. Remember all those splices I mentioned? The DVD version of this scene is fully _16 seconds shorter_ because of them! Oh, well – at least the scene is (mostly) still there. If this were a VCA DVD, I’m sure it would have been cut, so in this case, we actually benefit from VXP’s heads-down job. So, what _did_ get cut? A bunch of little and not-so-little things here and there, none of which seem to have deserved being deleted! (It figures!) I’ll list the actual excisions, where they occur on the DVD, what’s missing and how much time is involved. Remember, also, about the considerable number of splices throughout the print, and the appreciable amount of lost running time _they_ represent! The first major edit occurs at 13:06 into the DVD, during the scene in which Maraschino Cherry, played by Gloria Leonard (L), is talking with her younger sister, Penny, played by Jenny Baxter (B). B is explaining what’s been happening with her and her parents back in “Poplar Springs.” We are in an over-the-shoulder (OTS) shot of B, and she says to L, “They just knew that you worked in a cathouse.” At this point, the DVD EDITS to a 2-shot of them on a couch, and B says, “So, we thought it would be a natural for a middle-income whorehouse.” What’s Missing: Cut to a close-up (CU) of L, who says, “In a _high-class_ cathouse!” Cut back to the OTS of B, as she says, “You really made it big – you have the world by the tail!” B rises from her chair and crosses to sit next to L on the couch as L says, “I _own_ a high-class cathouse!” B replies, “Well, that’s why they sent me here. Well, they thought they would just forget about buying another farm, and go into another line of work – something different.” L asks, “Really? How different?” B replies, “Well, as you know, Poplar Springs is right in the middle of a strongly religious and God-fearing area of the country.” L asks, “So?” (BACK TO DVD) B replies, “So, we thought it would be a natural for a middle-income whorehouse.” 33 seconds have been cut. Tell me why. The next edit occurs at 19:51 into the DVD, at the end of the Suzanne McBain/Michael Gaunt “toilet seat” sex scene. The scene ends with a CU of his hands caressing her lower back after they’ve come. At this point, the DVD EDITS to a shot of a model sailboat going by on a small lake. What’s Missing: Cut to a shot of L in her office, instructing B on the finer points of running a “house.” She says, “Probably the most important thing is the introduction. Like the bidding in a bridge game, or the first offer in a business deal? For example, I had a good customer who liked his introductions both unexpected and original!” Cut to a wide shot of Central Park Lake, with model sailboats on it. (BACK TO DVD) Cut to a shot of one sailboat going by. 17 seconds have been cut. Also, at this point, the audio becomes very “fluttery” for quite some time – obviously because a bad film splice had screwed up the projector’s threading at the sound pickup! Where were the techs during the transfer? Probably couldn’t hear a thing with their heads so far up their asses! And while we’re talking about splices, at 27:39 into the DVD, a big splice loses about 5 seconds from the end of the scene in which Constance Money (M) gives a hand job to the “sailor” guy as they watch 8mm porn loops. The next edit is at 40:11 into the DVD, during the extended “Matador” scene in the bar. Money (M) places two big jugs of wine on the back of the bar. Cut to a shot of the Matador (MT) and his woman (W) looking at M. DVD EDITS to an overhead shot of M lying face up on the bar as MT pulls out his cock and M begins to blow him. What’s Missing: Cut back to M as she takes more bottles off the bar, intercut with shots of MT and W watching her. M then comes around in front of the bar with a bottle in each hand, moving her hips seductively. A series of shots of M and W, who gets up from where she has been sitting and begins moving _her_ hips seductively. M comes over to W and they sway suggestively, facing each other, as the men watch. The two women kiss, then M pushes W gently back onto the table. M bends over and begins giving W head as the men watch. After a bit, M rises, dances away, and sits on top of the bar, looking at W and the men. She slowly removes her (toreador, of course) pants, opens her legs, and beings stroking her pussy, still looking at W and the men. MT gets up and comes over to her. The scene cuts back to a brief shot of MT and L in her office, as earlier in the film. MT asks, “For me?” L replies, “Of course, you!” Cut back to the bar, as MT says to M, “They say you like to be where the action is.” M says, “Up front.” MT continues, “You like to see the whole show.” She replies, “I love it! I get there early and I stay late.” MT says, “You like to be there for the kill.” M replies, “I _am_ the kill.” MT laughs, then says, “A good matador never lets the bull prepare himself.” He snaps his fingers and gestures for W to come over to the bar, stepping back as she does. After a moment, M lies back on the bar and W goes down on her, as the men watch. Intercut numerous shots of W giving head, M enjoying it, the men watching, and MT beginning to undress. Then MT comes back over to the bar. (BACK TO DVD) Cut to the overhead shot as MT pulls out his cock and M begins to blow him. A total of 7 minutes, 51 seconds of excellent eroticism has been cut. Again, why? Also, at the end of the scene – 42:37 into the DVD – 5 seconds are missing from the shot of M and MT, their faces close together, after they have come. The next installment of “Death by a Thousand Splices” occurs between 52:30 and 53:00 into the DVD, toward the end of the scene in the whorehouse between B and the two men. A series of splices chops around 9 or 10 seconds out of the “climax” of the scene, including the actual cumshot of the man getting the blowjob! But wait! Don’t go away – there’s less! At the end of the scene with B and the two men, DVD EDITS to a CU of L in a piano bar, and we hear her voice-over, saying, “She gets all dressed up and goes out by herself.” What’s Missing: At the end of the scene with B and the two men, cut to an interior pan of a wall in the whorehouse, as L is heard continuing B’s training, saying, “You’ll find that your most important item is housewives.” B says, “Really?” L replies, “Really! Without them, you’ll starve! Couples business is big, too, but if you want to make it with couples, sucking cock is not enough – you’ve got to eat good pussy! And being gay is no guarantee.” B asks, “It isn’t?” to which L replies, “Do all capitalists pray?” B asks, “Do stockbrokers eat good pussy?” By this time, we have panned over to a 2-shot of L & B. L replies, “Strictly Bloomingdales! Here’s a good case in point – and this’ll be of particular interest to you. There’s this housewife – rather well off. When her husband is away, and her child is off at school…” (BACK TO DVD) Cut to the piano bar as L is heard, saying, “…she gets all dressed up and goes out by herself.” 36 seconds are gone, along with the setup to the scene about to start. Another short edit occurs at 63:18, at the end of the Annette Haven piano bar scene. L gets up, puts a note in Haven’s hand, and walks out. DVD EDITS to L, in the whorehouse, in mid-sentence, as she says, “…ing for a little while.” What’s Missing: The man lies on top of Haven, spent, caressing her. After a moment, a woman walks into the bar and sits down next to a man at a table in back. L is heard in voice-over, saying, “I asked her in the note, very sweetly, if she would like to drop by one even… (BACK TO DVD) …ing for a little while.” 22 seconds have been cut. As mentioned before, there are numerous splices in the final, anal dildo scene in the dungeon with L, Haven and Laing. Also, at the end of the scene, for some strange reason, the DVD repeats the earlier soundtrack of Laing gasping, etc., instead of the original, sync-sound audio of the three kissing and Laing sighing. The last edit occurs at 71:32 into the DVD. At the end of the dungeon scene, the picture cuts to a daytime skyline shot. After a moment, DVD EDITS to another skyline shot, and L is heard in voice-over, saying, “Well, little sister, this is goodbye.” What’s Missing: During the first skyline shot, a phone is heard ringing. Cut to inside the whorehouse as Lesllie Bovee walks into the shot, picks up the phone, and says, “Maraschino Cherry, where you care to suck the very best.” Cut to a wide shot of a guy giving head to Suzanne McBain, and she groans with pleasure three times. Another guy walks by in front of them, stops, looks at his watch, taps it, frowns, shakes his head, and walks out of the shot. (BACK TO DVD) Cut to the skyline shot, with L heard saying, “Well, little sister, this is goodbye.” 19 seconds, as well as the finale to a running gag throughout the film, have been chopped. Also, the very end of the movie, as L’s cab drives away, is chopped up by numerous splices, rendering the voice-over dialog between L and the cab driver all but incomprehensible. Just a word or two in closing. Even a _horrible_ film deserves better treatment in becoming a DVD than what Video-X-“Pukes” has done to this (OK, minor, but still highly worthwhile) classic from one of the genre’s absolute top filmmakers. Any _self-respecting_ DVD company, with even the _slightest pretense_ of wanting to produce a quality product, would have taken one look at this print (or video master), projectile vomited, and then thrown it in the trash instead of spending dollar one to make a digital transfer. To have foisted this piece of dreck on the DVD-buying public shows that this company has absolutely _zero_ respect for the consumer, and is only in it for whatever sales income they can steal until the word gets out about this incredibly shoddy product. One can only hope, quite probably in vain, that some other company (one who thinks better of its customers than to pull stuff like this out of its ass and put a premium price on it!) may, one day, find a better print or video master of this title, and produce a DVD that is worth something! Meanwhile, anyone purchases or rents the current version (no matter how little they may pay) is getting ripped off by Video-X-Pix. [Link] |
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| sdc Member 236 Posts 4/03 | "If we couldn't have sex from time to time, what would life be? A futile struggle against joints that stiffen and caries that form." Michel Houllebecq |
| blake_fan Member Under the spell of my muse. 175 Posts 1/01 | Thanks for the heads-up. But thanks even more for some interesting reading -- "But wait! Don’t go away – there’s less!" -- a classic!
"The greatest argument for the existence of God, "The great ambition of women is to inspire love." -- Moliere (1622-1673) |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | I've always heard that Maraschino Cherry was a disappointment and probably Radley Metzger's weakest film,which to me is a disappointment because I always liked to get any film that Wade Nichols appeared in because he always turned in an outstanding acting performance and could really carry a film. |
| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Barbara Broadcast Maraschino Cherry The Opening of Misty Beethoven Naked Came the Stranger The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann Candy Stripers |
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| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Greybeard,I have both of those great films and what a great performance by Wade Nichols in both films. My only regret is that he did not do more porn films than he actually did,he sure could carry a film. Wade Nichols a.k.a Dennis Parker,was detective Derek Mallory on Edge Of Night,also he had a disco album Like An Eagle,he performed on the Merv Griffin Show.All his mainstream success is quite amazing considering the mainstream's take on porn.To me Jailbait has got to be one of the most underrated porn films of all time,I definitely think it's the best film Carter Stevens ever made.Tina Lynn along with Jackie O'Neill are my favorite one shot wonders. Greybeard,I have thank you again for your review of Candy Stripers,I had that film for four years, I bought it while I was still living in Los Angeles at the Circus Of Books in Silverlake it was on sale,me being dumb ass that I am couldn't for the life of me find the hidden scene. |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Here's a quality review taken from AV maniacs: "A REVIEW OF NEW 2 DISC MARASCHINO CHERRY DVD THE GOOD-The transfer has nice details, very good colors, and fine audio. It is light years ahead in terms of quality of the piss poor previous version. It's also widescreen( 1.66) and anamorphic( which is a plus). Most importantly, I do believe this is the totally uncut version with a running time approaching 85 minutes. It's been ages since I last saw the film, but I think everything is intact. I'm not sure if this was shot in 16mm and blown up to 35mm or purely shot in 35mm. I think it is the former, judging by varying grain levels and some softer shots. It does not look as sharp, glossy, or polished as "The Image". THE BAD-It's funny in the back of the dvd it raves about how the print raises the bar for all classic adult films. Bullshit. Alpha France, while they are annoying in their editing practices, are still top of the line for me in terms of consistently beautiful looking prints of classic adult films. With all the technology out there, you would think Video X Pix would spend some money or put some effort into cleaning the film up, but no dice. There are scratches and other annoying film artifacts through the dvd. Not a total disaster, but come on, get with the fucking program. I shelled out about 50 dollars( including shipping and handling) for this and I goddamn expect some quality in return. Disappointing extras too, although it was nice seeing Gloria Leonard talking. I've always liked her. THE UGLY-What the fuck is Video X Pix thinking? I really wonder. Why the hell do they insist on putting their fucking logo for a few seconds at the prelude of sex scenes. Not only is this annoying as fuck, but it serves no purpose whatsoever. The viewer can access a particular scene through a chapter search. I don't need to see their fucking logo plastered in the lower right of the screen( I tried to get rid of it, but have been unsuccessful thus far). CONCLUSION-Well, despite major problems I have with this dvd set, I do love the film a lot and I'm happy to at least see it in a better version." Here's the thread: http://avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40266 Until they learn to do what the fans want, no fans should give them money! EDIT: Removed sentence that in violation of forum etiquette. Edited by - john lyons on 2/18/2009 11:09:29 PM |
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| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | I think that we are forgetting the forum etiquette here. Please don't refer to companies as fuckers, that isn't constructive in the least bit. Please remember that just because a company hasn't posted a response doesn't mean they aren't reading the threads about them. Also, using language such as this can drive companies away that might have otherwise chosen to post regarding their company. |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | To rephrase and reiterate, I feel that fans who really care about these films and are paying good money to see them in supposedly improved versions should make their feelings known to the distributors when a distributor does something fans don't like. Though letters and emails are certainly helpful and beneficial, no company will change flawed business practices if they don't see a decrease in sales. The last thing I'd want to happen is for VXP to stop remastering their films. But on the same token, If they see people are willing to settle with (i.e. purchase) gravely flawed releases, then the company will have less of an interest in improving their product. Here is VXP owner Steven Morowitz's response to the bugging found here: http://avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40266&page=2 "A word about the on-screen logo: after several years of conducting expensive lawsuits caused by the fact that our movies or extracts of our movies were being released by other companies, our legal counsel has advised us that this is our best option. It has already helped us to identify and sue 2 very well known adult companies for copyright infringement. On both occasions, the bootleggers had clearly ignored our watermark and the footage appeared on new titles(compilations) from these companies. The footage in question was copyrighted, and it was obviously our footage, but the key is that when you are suing for copyright infringement in the court of law, being able to show that something is willfull is so much more valuable to your case, and we have proved that, particularly because of the presence of the logo. It's as simple as that; I will be more than happy to remove all on-screen logos if the posters of this thread will cover our future legal costs to defend our copyrights - which have easily amounted to over one hundred thousand dollars over the past few years. I don't particular like showing the logo either - but at least we have tried restricting the logo to what we feel is a minimum. I hope that this at least explains why there is a watermark. It is amazing to me that this project of re-mastering ” Maraschino Cherry” has been underway since 2006, and it has turned out to be a great overall accomplishment, and all you can talk about is this logo thing?? As far as we are concerned and many of the fans/critics as well, we have improved immensly from the other version, and for us this is just the beginning." |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | I don't know, I guess everyone has different standards when it comes to this stuff. I'm certainly not comparing any film transfer to a video transfer. Film will undoubtedly look better and sharper. The problem that I have with Morowitz's argument regarding the "necessity" of the logos is that I don't see how the presence of a logo on the image is going to prevent or deter bootleggers from illegally duping this new release. He states in his response that in spite of the bugging on the lousy tape based DVDs bootlegers still copied them. So, in essence, if he's saying the logos made no difference in the past, how does he expect them to make a difference in the future? Especially when you're saying the other aspects of the transfer are so nice, it's a shame to purposefully degrade quality unless it actually serves a proven effective purpose. I'll note that I responded to the post I quoted above, as have others, stating that bugging, no matter for what reason, is thoroughly unacceptable and disrespectful to fans who have paid for a DVD are are being given a movies (good picture quality aside) which looks like i could have been taped off TV, due to network style bugging. One final note: Alpha Blue Archives is notorious for sourcing DVDs from VHS tapes released by Something Weird Video, which is itself notorious for bugging their releases. ABA simply puts a little black box over the SWV logo (as can be seen on their sex bikers DVD) and inside the box puts their own bug! So much for that. I'll also add that most of the lousy video sourced DVDs released by VXP have the offending logo in the area of the picture which would normally be covered up by matte bars. Since VXP presents everything open matte, if one has a TV or computer which offers a "cropping" feature for DVDs, they can actually watch a fair number of VXP films not only in their OAR, but sans bug (as it will be in the matted area! |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | "In terms of the watermark, it is clear that many view this as an annoyance and even though it is on screen for short periods it clearly rankles with the true collector. For this reason, I would like to announce that - on a trial basis - our next releases will not feature any on-screen logo. This trial will continue for as long as I feel that it is justified by sales and is not being taken advantage of by bootleggers, which I am not expecting ( we hope the bootleggers are long gone)!!" This is wonderful news (and I hope that Through the Looking Glass is one of the upcoming bug free titles!). I'm delighted to see that VXP really has listened to what their fans have to say. Edited by - john lyons on 2/19/2009 10:04:44 AM |
| distribpix New Member 1 Posts 1/09 | Over the course of the last week, we've been contacted with much great feedback about the quality of the Maraschino Cherry release, which is very gratifying given all of the effort we put into it. Thanks to those of you who have emailed us directly or posted to the discussion boards. We really appreciate it. In terms of the watermark, it is clear that many view this as an annoyance and even though it is on screen for short periods it clearly rankles with the true collector. For this reason, I would like to announce that - on a trial basis - our next releases will not feature any on-screen logo. This trial will continue for as long as I feel that it is justified by sales and is not being taken advantage of by bootleggers, which I am not expecting ( we hope the bootleggers are long gone)!! I hope that this is met with your approval; as I mentioned in my previous post, we take our heritage in this industry seriously and pride ourselves in listening to our clients. There is always room for improvement. We are not a bootlegger engaged in buying up second-rate copies of someone else's films and then egregiously changing the soundtracks/scenes so they won't be sued, we are not scouring E-bay to make DVD compilations, and we don’t stand for piracy of any sort. We own all of our films - and would like them to be appreciated by fans in the best editions possible. And in response to the poster who asked which films are slated for upcoming release, stay tuned for some exciting announcements soon - including special editions of our best-loved titles, never-before-released sexploitation titles from our early days, and a newly found print of a Joe Sarno title, previously thought to be lost. Thank you again. |
| greybeard Member 181 Posts 8/00 | Now if we could only get VCA to revisit the _other_ Radley Metzger classics in the same way! Doubtful, since they probably only have their already-edited masters! Radley, if you're listening (and if VCA still owns the DVD rights), perhaps you could point them at some well-preserved, intact prints? Hmmm? |
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