He's like an evil antidote for Viagra. I can't believe how out of shape the guy has gotten. It's to the point that when he's in a scene, I suddenly find myself being aroused at the thought of mowing the lawn.
As I said in an unrelated thread yesterday, sometimes his overbearing macho spitty slappy chokey goofy antics are a detraction; at other times the girls seem to enjoy them.
I never said he was fat and wouldn't care if he was. Besides, if he's fat and out of shape, then I'm fat and out of shape. Therefore, he is a prime male specimen, just like me!
I might be critical on occasion, but most of the time he does a good job. If I were a porn director, I would hire him and just make sure that he doesn't get out of line.
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 1:17AM
How much do you figure he weighs? I'm guessing at least 280 lbs (with a % body fat of somewhere around 25%). Is there a zero tolerance index that applies to male porn performers?
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 5:55AM
Mark Davis is about 6' tall. Do you have any idea what he would look like at 280 lbs? Even if all his extra weight was muscle, he wouldn't approach that figure. I think you must be watching too much wrestling and believe the figures they throw up at you. Mark may be out of shape, certainly not the male model type he came into the industry as, but he has always gotten more out of the women he works with than almost anybody. I feel I owe him a debt of gratitude for opening up Marie Luv. In an industry where there are some seriously ugly men, cretins and miscreants, I can't see why anybody would pick out Davis to harangue. Chicks dig him. He makes women cum on camera. If you're truly watching "just for the women", isn't that exactly what you want to see? Or do you only want to see them bored or in discomfort?
I really only knew Davis and Randy Spears from their '90s vids,I was really shocked they got so fucked up and old looking in a relatively short period of time.
Believe it or not...the guy use to be a "chippendale"!
If you can get hired just as much ans paid just the same...why not going the lazy ass way.
To have all your hairs and to shave your head...is an insult to those who loose theirs!
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 5:47PM
I hear all this stuff about how much the ladies like Mark Davis and it makes me wonder...Is the product being made for the female performers, or is it being made for the consumers? Plenty of guys besides Mark Davis will satisfy the ladies just fine and, in addition, not distract the viewer with thoughts of "does my body look that bad?"
Mark Davis ruined the Dana Dearmond scene in BW10 for me. The slapping, jamming his hand down her throat over and over--I turned it off after 5 minutes and I was really looking forward to it. I didn't realize that ass was so smokin' hot! But there's Davis, pulling his Colonel Kurtz routine. If I wanted to see a bald fat sadist I'd watch s&m flicks.
I used to be the same way. But it does matter. There's nothing gay about giving the guy credit for doing a good job of turning the girl on and fucking her good and proper. Even if you're not exactly watching for the guys, you're gonna notice if the guy is out of shape or whatever (not that I agree with the sentiment of other posters in this thread. Just saying). I much prefer to watch in shape, good looking guys fucking because if I was that dude, I'd want to be in good shape and good looking. Porn is about fantasy so why can't you fantasize about being a better looking guy with a better physique?
I do agree with this. It bothers me that people love a performer as long as they're young and sexy and all that good stuff and they can't wait to trash them when they get a little bit older, gain a little weight, lose a little hair, whatever.
These people gave us the best years of their lives. Many of them have performed in a large number of very hot scenes. If you don't want to watch them, then by all means, avoid their scenes as much as possible but couldn't you show a little respect?
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sally Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 7:08PM
Are you intimate with Ed Powers ?
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 7:18PM
None of this is meant to disrespect the performer. A man has much more control over his body shape than does a woman. Mark Davis could get on a low carb diet and get himself into the gym, stop shaving his head and shave his face once in a while and...voila!...he might look half way decent again. Otherwise, he's headed toward Ron Jeremyville. If that's what he wants, cool. But, how many of us would want to see Jenna Haze with Ron Jeremy?
1. If you don't like Mark Davis *that* much, then don't watch movies with him. Seems simple to me. 2. I give Mark incredible respect. I know it's already been said, but Mark "gets" women. He eats pussy like a master. He fucks in a way that girls love. He is dominant like a dominant man should be. He is the fucking man! Pun intended. The lovely Kacey is known for her hardcore "nasty" performances, but she never came in any scene I saw... except one with Mark Davis.
She was totally shocked saying something like "I never cum on camera.... I ccccan't! Not even with Marcus." If that's not enough evidence.... well I'll rest my case either way.
But he's an older guy and this stuff gets harder to do as you get older and you have to put more effort into it to achieve the same results as you did when you were younger. I've enjoyed quite a few scenes with Ron Jeremy in them. No...he's definitely not going to win any male beauty contests but he got the job done and a lot of the ladies actually seemed to enjoy him. I do prefer that the male talent isn't an eyesore but I want to see the ladies get off and if the dude can do that, I can deal with whatever he looks like.
Edited by - randomprecision on 2/28/2007 10:17:30 PM
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Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 9:37PM
I wouldn't say hes the most out of shape guy out there, but yeah his performances suck and I dont like seeing him in a scene.
There are a LOT of men whose presence can be at best distracting and at worst a wood-depletion, but Mark Davis??? Not for me, at least./ He's always seemed like a guy who knows how to do the deed and more importantly knows how to get the most out of the woman he's with without trying to dominate the scene with his own presence. That alone makes him notable amongst the crowd of "Hey, Look at me![/i} guys screwing today. I remember a couple scenes he did with Chris Taliana that were just scorching and it was qute obvios that the scene worked well because of him and not in spite of him as is often the case.
Naaah, Mark's okay by me - he even seems like a likeable enough character, also.
A low-rent Jack Naper!!!
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 1 2007 : 12:37AM
If I subscribed to this rule, then I wouldn't be able to watch about 25% of Jenna Haze's releases put out since her return to b/g work, including:
Crack Addict #6 Filth And Fury #2 Service Animals #24
The point is that I WANT TO WATCH THE GIRL (in this case, Jenna Haze). The guy should be a neutral or positive element within the scene. When he rises to the level of being a negative (in this case, because of his physical appearance), then he becomes an impediment to me wanting to watch the girl and the scene in the first place.
I hear this a lot but the simple fact of the matter is that if you keep buying Mark Davis, you'll keep getting Mark Davis. If they have a look see at the sales figures and they see that a movie featuring Jenna Haze isn't doing well, they're gonna know something's not right somewhere. Any man with vision can see that Jenna isn't the problem. So, if they make a few movies starring Jenna and Mark and they don't sell well, maybe they'll decide to change something. And it probably won't be Jenna.
You can't buy a movie for the girl first and foremost. It would seem to make sense but that's just wrong thinking. It could be the most spectacular girl in the world and a bad director and/or bad male (or female) partner could utterly kill the scene.
If the male talent is that important to you, then you should give who they are at least equal attention in your selection criteria. I'm betting that most of these studios pay more attention to sales figures than they do fan mail and comments on message boards. They probably should be listening to their customers but that's just the way the world works. Money talks.
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 1 2007 : 5:20AM
I wonder how many people choose to buy or rent a movie SPECIFICALLY because Mark Davis is in it. I'd venture to guess, not many.
Go check out the menus for SugarDVD, one of the biggest renters of adult videos. They have a selection category called "popular performers." The only males listed are Lexington Steele, Rocco Siffredi, Peter North, John Holmes and Ron Jeremy. The other 35 or so names are all women.
Except in rare instances, it is the female performer who drives porn rentals and sales.
I think you read that part wrong or...something. What I meant to say was that if you buy a movie for whom ever the female star is, you are simply stuck with whom ever the male stars and/or director are. If there are guys you don't like seeing in porn flicks and who ruin the experience for you, it makes more sense to look for a director and/or male talent you actually like and wait for them to work with the girls you like.
Almost any girl can be hot if she's working with a good director and a good male partner. It's the director and the dude that's doing the fucking that makes a scene hot or not. If the dude can't turn her on, forget it. Might as well be watching a solo masturbation movie. If the director hasn't got a clue, she could be Jenna Haze or any other woman....it wouldn't matter because it won't be hot anyway, most likely.
If you know the flick has Mark Davis in it, and you don't like him and you get it anyway, that's kind of on you, isn't it? I've seen Jenna Haze in plenty of stuff. I don't think I've seen her work with Mark Davis yet. And I wasn't even trying to avoid him.
And it may be the female stars who drive the porn sales. I'm just saying that I don't think that's not a very good way of shopping (at least when it comes to porn) because when you do that, you let them get away with filling their movies with mediocre male talent. You're telling them that you'll buy the biggest steaming pile of crap that exists....as long as it has the girl you like in it. They don't care if you complain as long as you keep buying. Why should they? They only care if they lose money and they don't lose money if you keep buying whatever they produce.
I'm merely trying to give you helpful advice. By all means, if you want to keep buying movies made by any old Tom, Dick or Harry just because they got Jenna Haze (or whom ever) on the cover, more power to you. But I think I can say, with a reasonable degree of certainty, that if you shop that way, you'll be disappointed much more often than you'll be pleased.
What I do is this. I pick out people who do good work first and foremost. The girls are secondary. People who do good work usually have good taste in girls anyway and they'll cast girls I like sooner or later.
Edited by - randomprecision on 3/1/2007 6:10:35 AM
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 1 2007 : 12:41PM
It's not "on me" when the movie is marketed as featuring Jenna Haze (whom I happen to like). I could care less whether Mark Davis is in it. The problem is that - unless a review of the film is available - I have no way of knowing whether the scene with Jenna also includes Davis. So, fans of Jenna Haze will naturally be inclined to want to rent/buy the movie, only to be disappointed when they find that Davis is in the same scene with Jenna. Now, if below the title, there was a disclaimer "Warning, this movie may contain content not suitable for viewers opposed to watching beautiful young women perform with not so beautiful old men" then all would be okay. But, that's not going to happen any time soon, I suspect.
He's not that bad looking. Maybe 5 or 10 pounds overweight, but really in pretty good shape for someone over 40. Do we really want 18 and 19 year old males to come and go in the business as fast as the females? For the record, I'm 27 myself, but I'm going to look like Mark Davis before I look like James Deen, or whoever. I loved Jenna's scene with him in Service Animals 24, and I look forward to finally viewing Crack Addict 6 and Filth and Fury #2.
I look old because I am old and I totally understand that you prefer scenes with other performers. Fortunately for you there is enough product on the market without me. Fortunately for me there are still people who like my stuff.
I just don't understand what you mean with "his body is so hairy". I always envied people with nice hairy chest like Tom Jones. I barely have any body hair.
Speaking as an "old" man myself, I prefer performers like Steve Holmes and Mark Davis who have a command that comes of experience and seasoned perversity. The looks in the eyes of the girls and women they ravish so effectively says it all ... It's the fuck robots that annoy me.
Hey, nothing against Steve Holmes! He made a lot of great scenes, he can take the girls to the limit...Since I watched some porn movies live on a set, I tap my hat for the actors and actress - I could never do such a hard (double meaning) job! So, Steve ROCK ON!!!
(no I'm not gay..just for the case..)
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Posted - Mar 2 2007 : 1:53AM
The internet and advances in film and editing technology are democratizing porn. Anyone with a credit card and a little technical savvy can produce half way decent porn content. As a result, we're going to see a lot more young males starring in porn. The eventual effect will be to raise the bar on what is considered suitable physical appearance for male performers. The same exact thing happened about fifteen years ago in the modeling industry.
About Mark Davis. I don't care for his physical appearance anymore. He used to be very handsome and quite refined. He's chosen to present himself as a dominant at this point in his career, and he's cultivated a stereotypical look to match that image.
Davis looks to me like he'd be an amazing master. He really seems to know what he's doing; he makes a woman want to submit, and he rewards her for it. I just wish he understood that he'd be so much sexier if he combined his current performing style, with his previous suave looks. So what if he's older. Handsome young men get more handsome as they age. Look at George Clooney. Mark Davis could be a very sexy looking older man, but he has chosen a different path.
Personally, I preferred the sophisticated style he sported in the past. That man knew how to dress. You watch scenes of his that are ten years old, and he doesn't look dated, because he had classic fashion sense. It's a shame that he's chosen to project this scuzzy image now, because I have a feeling I'd really dig his scenes if he looked better. I think it's hot when a guy's outward image clashes with his sexual style. When a rougher-looking guy turns out to be a generous, almost tender lover, that's hot. When a guy who projects refinement turns out to be a dominant, barely-contained beast, that's hot, too.
Steve, you already are the Tom Jones of porn! I bet you get more women throwing their underwear at you in one afternoon than Tom does on a single world tour.
And then there are some less classy broads that send theirs air mail.
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Posted - Mar 2 2007 : 9:21AM
I didn't mean to offend you personally. I just think that you would look better if you shaved more, I just think pubes are gross on both men and women.
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
102 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 2 2007 : 4:02PM
Could you please travel south and personally convey this information to Czech girl Lucy Lee?
Then, I have to say, you've never really seen Jenna Haze. I don't always care for Mark Davis in a scene, but he brings something out in Jenna Haze that nobody else quite does. And it goes back a long way, to some of Jenna's earliest scenes in 2001. They have a connection that's almost like two people who are longtime fuck-buddies and only get together every few months.
That's the kind of thing I watch porn for.
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 2 2007 : 7:20PM
Nobody "brings out" anything in Jenna Haze. That girl comes with batteries included 24/7. If anything, she typically brings out the best in her male talent.
I personally love pubes. When I was a little boy and we went to the nude beach I remember getting excited by the girls who already grew tits and pubes and I couldn't wait to grow pubes myself. Since I have it I wouldn't want to shave it off.
I also think Britney Spears looked better before she shaved her head. But that's just me.
I'm with the pro-Mark Davis crowd and everyone who points at all the things he does well. If you need further evidence simply watch Mark completely OWNChloe and Tiffany Mynx in the first scene of "Buttwoman vs. Buttwoman." That's STILL one of the hottest scenes I've EVER seen.
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BoogieNights Deactivated User
102 Posts 2/07
Posted - Mar 3 2007 : 6:03AM
That scene was filmed in the year 2000. Bill Clinton was still president and Mark McGwire was still playing baseball. But, that was SEVEN YEARS AGO.
Mark Davis @ AEBN
Posted - Feb 28 2007 : 12:17AM