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redtr_ee
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133 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 4 2006 : 4:49PM
Is Martin del Toro the only director who didn't leave Red Light District Video (RLDV).

New releases from RLDV

Seems that every fuckin' vid was directed by him. And I noticed some David Luger but his presence alone will not do. This is bad news for RLDV. Need I say more?

payday
Member

damn
311 Posts
7/05
Posted - May 4 2006 : 5:18PM
"Teen Spermaholics"

quite the original name for a movie..

Len Nicodemo
Doctor of Pornography (Po.D.)

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2/06
Posted - May 4 2006 : 5:26PM
I was just thinking the exact same thing. Are they running out of titles?
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 4 2006 : 5:43PM
My fear is he'll have the girls spitting the cum into the lense after the pops. I like the action he shoots, then he goes and ruins it almost with the spitting so I'll wait to see this title but yeah the originality wasn't used to come up with that name.

Edited by - bono-ONE on 5/4/2006 5:44:22 PM

johnshaft820
Member

271 Posts
1/05
Posted - May 4 2006 : 6:46PM
I don't know, you have to give him some credit for a title like "Stuff my Hot Pink Oven." Never seen the word "oven" used in that exact context before...
 
Cumwhipper
Senior Member

4050 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 4 2006 : 6:55PM
I think RLD is considering a few titles for future del Toro series...
  • Cum In My Mouth And I'll Spit It On Your Lens
  • Spit On My Lens Every Five Seconds
  • Interrupt That Hot Blowjob Just So You Can Spit And Meet My Quota Of Lugies On My Lens (ITBJSYCPMMQOLOML #1)
  • You MUST Fuck My Armpits
  • Dude, That White Stuff Isn't Cum, It's Deodorant

etc...

bigdick
Member

777 Posts
12/01
Posted - May 4 2006 : 8:14PM
I don't understand who directed the latest Cumfart Cocktail. The box says Jake Malone and the web page says Del Toro. The series is one of Jake's best. Judgement is out if Del Tore directed it.
Endless Loop
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8/04
Posted - May 4 2006 : 9:03PM
Until someone else enters the fray, Del Toro appears the primary beneficiary, to direct the blue ribbon crop of RLD's exalted smutlines.
With Luger and John Strong picking up the slack, he at least posesses some bona fide talent and/or experience RLD needs to help keep their flagship titles afloat.

From the couple segments I've seen so far, he's done an admirable job taking command over the fourth voyage of Malone's old salty vessel, the much beloved S.S.Cumfart Cocktails.


Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/4/2006 9:17:07 PM

HeyNow All-Star Supporter
Oblivious

Gold Star Hey!
5965 Posts
1/03
Posted - May 4 2006 : 9:15PM
I just saw his Hardcore D.P. and I didn't see as much of the armpit fucking and spitting - oh it was there - just not as much. Good movie - Christ! that Kelly Wells is something else!
payday
Member

damn
311 Posts
7/05
Posted - May 4 2006 : 9:58PM

I wonder how they christened that boat

Cumwhipper
Senior Member

4050 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 4 2006 : 10:01PM
Jake is still directing Cum Fart Cocktails - the boxcover is a misprint.

According to Jake, Del Toro is taking over the "Throat Gaggers" series (which actually could be good - del Toro never shies away from rough blowjobs).

Endless Loop
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8/04
Posted - May 4 2006 : 11:36PM
Hmmm, anyone's guess, but probably safe to assume they didn't waste the bubbly!
Misprint? Who in their rigtht mind could ever confuse Cumfart Cocktails, with anyone but Jake?
Thats like confusing a Munchkin with anything but the Wizard of Oz?
Naw, I'll bet Malone had second thoughts, and realized that giving up "Cocktails" would be like tossing away his ticket to immortality.

Yeah makes sense. That fucking Well's cumfart was a thing of beauty, somthing of a cross between a white squall, and a sticky lahar, and far from anything possibly whipped up, and captured by beginners luck.

..not to discount his recent accomplishments.
del Toro offered up some well shot anal spew, in "Lick Her Ass off My Dick".

Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/5/2006 12:11:47 AM

wewe
Member

216 Posts
6/05
Posted - May 5 2006 : 4:04AM
I have just seen Stuff my Hot Pink Oven and it is a quite good and funny release without any spitting.

You can say that Martin is a quite abnormal director if you have get used to the RLD old style. After losing some major directors at the same time, RLD and PLX are going through the transtional stage at present. You know that there need to be many release each month but talented gonzo director is not easily available. To be frank, i now feel so bored about RLD old style like David Ludger and the cast used by the two are often overlapping too much. We see so frequent abt some stars like Sandra Romain and Flower Tucci etc.

I just hope them exlpoit more hot new girls and new series. There will be a new MILF series from RLD this month. Look forward to this .

Mr. Saliva
Member

129 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 5 2006 : 9:28AM
I'm a fan of Del Toro's work. I want more movies, with more threesomes, and more lesbian scenes and more... spit. On lens is good. Why not?
JEWEL (imposter)
Jewel De'Nyle

736 Posts
1/06
Posted - May 5 2006 : 4:45PM
I love Martin he is so creative and unusual.
 
NuTTy_BuDDy
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608 Posts
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Posted - May 6 2006 : 2:28AM
rofl
mike john
Mike John Productions

389 Posts
8/02
Posted - May 6 2006 : 11:22AM
As a shooter I have always taken pride in creating my own titles and concepts.This type of blatant copying makes the studio and the shooter look bad.I worked hard while at red light and they did quite well off my titles,I even came up with thier best selling title "Cum fart Cocktails".I just saw the new AVN thier next Brain strom title is "No cum dodging" shot by the supper creative John Strong.Where is the shame? On a side note I am trying to come up with a new title. what do you think of "Cum farted cocktails"? sounds kind of catchy

Edited by - mike john on 5/6/2006 11:26:21 AM

Cumwhipper
Senior Member

4050 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 6 2006 : 11:53AM
Brilliant!!! How did you ever think of that?
Darth-Morpheous
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Posted - May 6 2006 : 12:48PM
Don't worry Mike. The fans of fine porn are savvy enough to look for your name on the box. RLD/PXP is getting very cheezy lately. First the put pop ups on there site now they are ripping off Mike John's titles. This is a sign of a company in a downward spiral. I never thought RLD/PXP would end up this way. I think Del Toro and Malone are decent Directors but the company is far from what it was when MJ was on board.

Mike, are you planning on shooting a cum fart movie for real or was that just a total joke? I know if you did plan on shooting a similar line, you would come up with your own title. I think that would be a great series if so. Personally I love Girl/Girl/Boy scenes and obviously every scene would be anal and end with a swallowed cumfart. This would be magnificent! I would hope you would shoot some of it in POV style. Please keep us informed.

Also, any word on your new fan site?

von_swine
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Dominance & Persecution.
919 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 6 2006 : 1:19PM
just wanted to add that my soon to be released titles are gonna be;
1 in the stink/1 in the pink
Four On The Whorebag
Teeny Fuck Holes &
Young Tighter Latinas

I sincerely hope that this doesnt bother anyone, since Im just trying my best to come up with the most innovative and clever titles/concepts possible. I mean I'd hate to un-nerve the likes of someone like Johnny Loyal. lates, Von S.

wewe
Member

216 Posts
6/05
Posted - May 6 2006 : 3:00PM
I also agree that RLD is totally in lost now and lose the way it shall be as the top gonzo porn firm in biz. It seems that the problem inside won't be able to solve in short time. I just want other studios will take this chance to crash the market and give us more good porn.

chabbathehut
New Member

3 Posts
5/06
Posted - May 6 2006 : 3:32PM
i dont even watch rld movies anymore. they are only a fraction of there former selves. with almost everything coming from two very generic directors john strong and martin del toro it is very pathetic. rld has become defiance or colossal when it was once a company i couldnt wait for a release from them. all their movies look the same with the xception of jake malone. its so sad. these guys just shoot to shoot without caring about quailty or originalty. its very pathetic.
j.cuba
Member

35 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 6 2006 : 8:17PM
WOW!!! and I was going to ask if someone out there seen my movies SLUTINAS OR SPERM SPLATTERED (BUY THE WAY I CAME UP WITH THOSE TITLES). I dont think its fair to say that RLD/PXP are in a downward spiral to say that is unfair to the directors. We all have our own vision of what gets us off, it might not be everyone's thing but its our own. As for Martin he like Me our very proud to be at RLD/PXP I think his stuff is his stuff and and he puts alot of work into his vision and he's a hell of person (and no he dosen't shoot CUM FART COCKTAILS JAKE DOES) with a great attitude. Von Swine what are you talking about bro innovative/original concepts PLEASE DUDE! i havent seen a Von Swine movie that wasnt a Mike John ripp-off. I hope people enjoy what im trying to do i do it because i love it period and I know that im not going to please everyone. SO ENJOY MY SHIT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK GOOD OR BAD.
Later Juan Cuba
Eric381
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What are you looking at? It
2452 Posts
3/05
Posted - May 6 2006 : 8:39PM
Geez, granted there's relation, but must you drag PXP into this "cheesy" attack on RLD?

Juan, I'm digging those titles...assuming there's no pun intended (I'm not dictionary on what's been used, or not).

Eric

Edited by - Eric381 on 5/6/2006 8:41:53 PM
shark1
Senior Member

1219 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 6 2006 : 10:33PM
RLD/PXP has definitely lost steam and originality. I used to also look forward to every RLD release, but rarely rent their titles anymore. I guess Mike John did not have the same deal that EE had with RLD? For instance, Erik is continuing some of his titles over at Evil Angel(Anal Cavity Search), whereas it seems RLD is continuing Mike Johns' series with their new directors. Regardless, now is the time for other gonzo companies to step up to the plate.
 
von_swine
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1/04
Posted - May 6 2006 : 11:00PM
paesan, please forgive me, I'd forgotten ALL about the fact that I shoot EVERYTHING the same way Mikey does, like thats a bad thing. please bro, go back to coat-tail riding, and I'll go back to creating movies from the ground up, by MYSELF. (how much are you paying your stills guy again?) sperm splattered, doesnt at ALL sound remeniscent of Cumglazed does it? adios Cohiba, Von S.
mike john
Mike John Productions

389 Posts
8/02
Posted - May 6 2006 : 11:19PM
I own all of my titles and will be continuing them.All of my old catalog will be available shortly through Jules Jordan video.Red light has no right to use my titles in any way.Saddly Red Light has chosen to go this way,its unnecessary and makes the company look bad.They shouldn't need to rip off my titles.Darth I dont have any cum fart series planed, we'll see what the future brings

Edited by - mike john on 5/6/2006 11:31:26 PM

tdb
Member

270 Posts
9/04
Posted - May 6 2006 : 11:54PM
I've said it in another thread and I'll say it again in this one. Martin Del Toro has quickly become one of my favorite directors because of the hot spitting onto the lens action he captures. Keep up the good work, Martin!
payday
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damn
311 Posts
7/05
Posted - May 7 2006 : 12:53AM
Why is it unfair? If the movies are second-rate generic versions of movies that redlight district has put out in the past, which were pretty bare and generic to begin with, what does that say about the company and the producers..?

swallowtheload
Member

512 Posts
9/04
Posted - May 7 2006 : 1:01AM
Well said Chabbathehut and Shark1. I bought my last movie from RLD last night, Stuff My Hot Pink Oven. Why ruin an otherwise good scene by Addison Rose by shoving her head into a toilet? There is no need for that in porn, but that is just my opinion. Check out the back cover of Teen Spermaholics, the girls are spitting the cum back into their hands and smearing it on their faces. Perhaps they should rename the title Teenage Spitaholics. Mike and Von miss your work.
chabbathehut
New Member

3 Posts
5/06
Posted - May 7 2006 : 2:38AM
its interesting once or twice but stupid stuff like spitting into lens over and over again and fucking ears and arm pits show what lack of orignalty and stupidity. i like to watch porn not some lameass excuse for assclown directors. i cant believe rld made del toro there main director. also is it just me or does john strong put himself in every scene he also directing. i cant stand a scene with him in it so repetitius and predictable. i hope they find some new directors soon instead of failures from other companies. there has to be some that are interested in good scenes instead of us seeing the same scene over and over again.
j.cuba
Member

35 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 7 2006 : 2:42AM
Timmy my man I love you bro your great!! but how long did you ride the coat tails of Mike and Vince lets not forget were we came from. And yes your rigt "Sperm Splattered" is a lot like "Cum Glazed" But this concept was done way before us bro we just give it our own twist. And by the way I pay my still guy well because i suck at stills. See you at ROCKAWAY BEACH my friend. By the way Payday like i said our visions are our visions and just because you think that were second rate dosent mean that RLD/PXP are going away yes we are new directors and yes Mike John, Erick Everhard are buy far two of the best in the bizz and i learned so much from both but they had to work hard to get to were there at and thats what were doing at RLD/PXP working hard two get to were we need to be. "THATS ALL FOLKS"
Juan Cuba
chabbathehut
New Member

3 Posts
5/06
Posted - May 7 2006 : 2:51AM
i think rld is second rate & i dont mean that to be they going away. they pick directors who just shoot generic stuff ad nauseum. i started to watch combat zone's home wreckers. it reminds me of red light when it started with new girls in the movies. now you see the same girls in every movie. if thats the case i'm going to watch movies from other companies which has superior directors. juan cuba, ive never watch your videos. please dont put spitting and armpit fucking in your movies.
von_swine
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Dominance & Persecution.
919 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 7 2006 : 4:22AM
Juanito, if someone's your bro back in my neighborhood, then you dont call them a rip-off in a public forum. if you wanna be a stand up poster boy for the RLD/PXP flagship, thats fine, they're your current employer and you have a wealth of friends there. it makes a lot of sense to go to bat for the home team. what they've done w/the recent titles Teen Spermaholics and No Cum Dodging are blatant snipes at a former director who helped make them a prominent force in the gonzo realm prior to the Paris Hilton dvd. that doesnt sit well w/me because he's helped many a person in that organization/company in the past only to have something like this shoved in his face, which (I think) is completely fucked up. personally I feel that I've been standing on my own two 'porno' legs for some time now, but then maybe thats just me being pig headed. last I remember, Vince didnt allow coat-tail riding and was on top of any and everything people shot for him, stem to stern. good luck with your gig there Juanito, I mean that whole heartedly, but take time to consider what you say about individuals in the game when going to bat for a companies reputation. lates, Von S.
j.cuba
Member

35 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 7 2006 : 12:37PM
Point taken.Timmy I respect you a whole lot you know that. I not only learned a lot from you but you went to bat for me many times and for that im very gratefull. As for going to bat for RLD/PXP yes i'am this is were i always wanted to be even when you were here thats what we always talked about so yes i will go to bat for them. About the titles hey thats not my bizz or any one elses thats between the them Im just trying to make good smut. I also wish you luck in your new gig you deserve all thats coming to you, you also have worked hard and by the way, "CROWD PLEASERS" GREAT STUFF JERKED TO IT THIS WEEK. So thats it bro,hit me up sometime and lets do 53rd & 3rd together. Later Juan Cuba
 
bono-ONE All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 7 2006 : 12:52PM
I hope we can keep the dirty laundry to a minimum!! Juan I'm watching Slutina's now. The title made me chuckle a bit but it's a good fusing of the two words, Whorina just doesn't sound right but Slutina, yeah I can work with that! Lorena Sanchez is a fox no doubts and I have seen some good booty shots so far in her scene and in the first two. I can't speak Spanish worth a darn really but I do like the dirty talk so keep that in, maybe have the girl do that in the fucking too.
von_swine
Member

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Posted - May 7 2006 : 4:16PM
right on Juanito, catch you down at the Cretin Hop. lates, Von S.
shark1
Senior Member

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5/04
Posted - May 8 2006 : 2:29AM
If it wasn't for Brandon Iron - who I might add is a true innovator who never shoots the same stuff everyone else is shooting - and Michael Stefano, I would have abandoned RLD/PXP altogether.

MJ - I look forward to seeing you continue some series and create new ones at JJV. I still can't believe RLD is coming out with Teen Spermaholics and No Cum Dodging. What's next - Elastic A-holes?

Edited by - shark1 on 5/8/2006 2:30:17 AM

julesjordanvideo
JulesJordan.com

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1003 Posts
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Posted - May 8 2006 : 9:10AM
If you ask me any self-respecting director should want to create their own identity and not try to continue a parted ways directors creations. For example: "Teen Spermaholics", "No Cum Dodging". I think these titles are trying to create marketplace confusion.
wheat
Senior Member

You want a toe? I can get you a toe
1131 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 8 2006 : 1:40PM
if future rld stuff is going to be like stuff my hot pink oven you can count me as another non buyer of the future.

should have been called stuff my head down the toilet.

also the very cheap looking 'lens' effect in the corners just came off looking well cheap.

dion
Combat Zone

438 Posts
7/02
Posted - May 9 2006 : 9:13PM
I'm going to make my comment on this thread tomorrow, I need to think real hard about this one.

Dion Giarrusso
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Endless Loop
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Posted - May 10 2006 : 3:05AM
I'm looking past these recent titles, as insignificant mistakes, and will continue to support RLD, while they work to get things back in the direction, that in recent years have well suited my viewing interests.
I think they should take some time, to carefully consider where that direction was, and while they may have been prone, to replicating work of their own, have always maintained a formidable creative edge among competitors.

This, if not as one of the industry's leading innovators of change.


Edited by - Endless Loop on 5/10/2006 3:10:47 AM

payday
Member

damn
311 Posts
7/05
Posted - May 10 2006 : 9:28AM
yah, it's pretty incredible that he is directing for one of the bigger companies and he doesn't know what size lens to fit on his camera
4theheart
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pornologist
3102 Posts
8/01
Posted - May 10 2006 : 10:24AM
The main thing I'm anticipating from RLD now is their collaboration with Vivid and Briana banks. Any word on when this is coming out?
wewe
Member

216 Posts
6/05
Posted - May 14 2006 : 4:32AM
I just want to ask about the lens and camera used by Martin is a style or just wrong. It is really uncomfortable for us to see this way on tv.
JEWEL (imposter)
Jewel De'Nyle

736 Posts
1/06
Posted - May 14 2006 : 11:50AM
Well sorry to burst your bubble boys but nothing in porn is new everything has been done and done again time and time again. The diffrence is the directors and girls nothing else. Sex is Sex and there's only so many ways to shoot it. So drop the egos and put out good porn.
M vanHouten
Member

183 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 14 2006 : 4:54PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - May 14 2006 : 5:38PM
The only real original directors are John Stagliano, Rodney Moore, Ed Powers and Max Steiner. They were the first with what they do. Every other director just copied and copied and copied. I mean Rodney Moore started POV and now everybody is doing it.
wheat
Senior Member

You want a toe? I can get you a toe
1131 Posts
4/06
Posted - May 14 2006 : 6:30PM
i assumed the lens thing was a a poor attempt to be 'artsy'.

if it's just a mistake thats even worse.

Edited by - wheat on 5/14/2006 6:30:59 PM

jimbo733
Member

Liverpool, England
313 Posts
12/04
Posted - May 15 2006 : 3:57PM
Are the departed directors still friends with John Strong?

Was it a fall out with the company, or amongst many?

Will we see Everhard in a Mike John movie, for example? Or has everyone gone their own way?

wewe
Member

216 Posts
6/05
Posted - May 15 2006 : 7:17PM
I am sure that only they will not appear in RLD/PLX any more as result of those lawsuits etc.The outcome is that now you find 60,70% of new release are directed by Martin ot David Ludger.

So bad that pon fans have no many choices now.


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