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ClaudioVegas
New Member

Las vegas
1 Posts
6/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 3:29PM
Since Mary Carey (Mark Kulkis) announced her plan to run for governor I've watched and read (sparingly) the different news stories featuring Mary Carey.

This is exactly what's wrong with the porn industry. Mary Carey has annointed herself as the spokesperson for your industry, yet she's a complete and utter embarassment to herself and anyone else in the profession. Every time she makes a public appearance or comment she gives the mainstream media and audiences reason to laugh at your industry and for politicos to scorn you.

I'm all for a company promoting themselves and their product, but the manner in which Kick Ass promotes itself by placing Carey on a pedastal where her every word is deemed as being a reflection on our entire industry, it's going way too far.

Here's the problem. And please note I have never been in the business of criticizing or "insulting" talent, because like most other fans I just love porn, but since Carey holds herself in such high regard and makes a public spectacle of herself, she has earned this type of commentary......

Mary Carey is not representative of the porn industry, if anything she represnts the LOW end of the industry.

- She is not attractive, would never make anyone's A list of talent... she is not even B talent, she is a C girl.
- If you were to do a list of the "hottest" pornstars in the business (not based on stupid, shameless publicity stunts) Mary would not be in the top 100.
- Her sex scenes are not only boring, but I truly believe she's part of the reason for the doing away of VHS.... takes too long to FF through her scene on a VHS tape, whereas you can simply hit SKIP on a DVD.
- Her smile!! When she smiles and opens up that mouth, it would literally stop Big Ben in his tracks.... yes, her face/smile could/would/does stop a clock.
- Her body. In a word - Grotesque. She belongs in a "Plumpers" movie from Filmco, that's it.
- Her boobs. "They're 100% real", that's her stance. Sure, and Arnold never took 'roids.
- She is as stupid as a boiled egg. Many people might see her act as just that, "an act". But I have personally spoken to this woman at a show and watched her interact with Kulkis and she really is as stupid as a piece of cardboard.

If you want someone to represent this industry..... there are HUNDREDS of girls that would be far more representative than Mary.
Jenna Jameson, Keri Sable, Lauren Phoenix, Jenna Haze, ANY of the ClubJenna girls, Jesse Jane, Janine, Jeneveve Jolie, Dani Woodward, Justine Joli, Teagan, Stormy, Devinn Lane, Tera Patrick, Monique Alexander, Lexie Marie.......... those are just a FEW. Mary Carey isn't in those girls league, she's not even in the minors.

This is just a BRILLIANT ploy on the part of Kick Ass owner Mark Kulkis to draw attention to his company and his product. By putting a woman with rocks in her head in the public eye for the world to laugh at. Mary, they're not laughing with you, they're laughing AT YOU.

It's sad that she represents the industry, that she is the FACE of the adult industry.... because you guys really have some beautiful, classy women, many with intelligence (didn't I read where Asia Carrera has a genius IQ, plus she's HOT). But instead of putting a hot babe out front, a below average looking idiot takes the spotlight.

Claudio

RLD Fiend
Member

Cincinnati, O.
665 Posts
10/04
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 3:41PM
I'd just like to say I'm a Mary Carey fan and wholeheartedly disagree with the vast majority of your assessment. I would address your insults individually but I don't feel like quoting them.

Click on beautiful Taylor Rain for great porn reviews!

juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 3:47PM
Welcome, Claudio,
but frankly, first posting a major bash is not a good start.

I'm by no means a Mary Carey fan.
Nonetheless I prefer talking about the girls in a positive way.

dandaman
Devil's Advocate

Still stuck in hell's waiting room
384 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 3:49PM
For a new poster "you" seem to have a large knowledge of Mrs. Carey, defects and none of her talents.

Who are you? to put somebody in A, B, or X category....
I know you're a kind God talking to us. I got it.

beefstrokinoff
Member

123 Posts
2/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 4:02PM
So, I guess you dig Mary and you'll be seeing each other around the officer's club? :-)
 
GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 4:09PM
Regardless of what one may think of Mary Carey as a porn actress, she's savvy enough to embarrass dubya from within the GOP, stirring controversy among his American Taliban base -- that takes balls (something shrub sorely lacks); and, for that, I applaud her.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

dandaman
Devil's Advocate

Still stuck in hell's waiting room
384 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 4:12PM
double post.

Edited by - dandaman on 6/15/2005 4:15:01 PM

dandaman
Devil's Advocate

Still stuck in hell's waiting room
384 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 4:14PM
Rumpled Foreskin
Member

310 Posts
5/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 4:39PM
I agree with Claudio...just not as forcefully. Mary and I inhabit Planet Earth without bothering each other too much.
christianx
Senior Member

1883 Posts
9/04
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 7:43PM
and this is on her birthday no less.......today!
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 7:45PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARY!
lou sapphire
Member

Take the plan, spin it sideways.
685 Posts
9/02
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 7:47PM
I agree!
murg2318
Member

83 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 8:28PM
It is very unfair for Claudio to talk about Mary Carey like that- I have met her a few times and she has a great personality, which he fails to mention among other attributes!

We all have to like and respect Mary Carey for being smart enough to promote herself and Kickass, as well as the porn industry in general. The girls you mention (besides Jenna) have not been smart enough to get a tenth of the media attention that Mary has.

And we all know that any of those girls would want that same attention on them!

phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 9:25PM
I am a Mary Carey fan, I do however see ClaudioVegas's points I really do not think she is a great represenative for the industry, if she is dumb it is a Kulkis' ploy. If not, then the act leads to the perception that all-porn girls are stupid. Hey where is KickAssJef with his rebuttal? Oh wait he only asks questions he does not give any answers.

Edited by - phatbasey on 6/15/2005 9:25:50 PM

Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 9:34PM
There are FAR worse people that could appoint themselves. I think sh'e alright. To look at her in the mainstream it is hard to say she is degraded, exploited, forced into it, messed up, etc etc.
 
HRhotrod
Member

98 Posts
10/04
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 10:27PM
I like Mary's smile. Don't know anything more about her, although she did not come across with much gravitas going into the GOP fundraiser yesterday.

She is a citizen; she can run if she wants to. She is probably no more of a spectical than Arianna Huffington was tripping out of a line of fans to impose on Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Schriver on their way into the courthouse to register to run for governor. It's all California politics. None of this is consequential in the end as long as capable leaders are sorted out of the system in the end.

Who I personally respect in this business: a lady who can stay off drugs, minimize the STD risks, not peak too early, save some money, and not wind up as a provider.


HR

croy
Platinum Member

Discovry
4574 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jun 15 2005 : 10:35PM
Having Ben Affleck all over as the spokesperson for 'Red Sox Nation' was far worse. I used to be neutral about the Red Sox, but now they annoy me. I root for their opponent, regardless of who it is.
Endorphin
Luminary

1185 Posts
3/00
Posted - Jun 16 2005 : 1:46AM
Agreed.

Claudio,
I find it odd that none of your point by point analysis had anything to do with her political views, her intellect, or her personality. Granted, I do like to stare at shiny objects at times, but I am far removed from considering a porn star an embaraasing political candidate because she doesn't know how to make a sex scene exciting. I'm not a fan of Clinton, but I wouldn't have much respect for someone not voting for him because he couldn't blow the sax like John Coltraine.

I know just about nothing when it comes to Mary Carey's political views and you have added nothing to my knowledge, but I do know that anyone that considers a political candidate to be an embarressment because they don't shot "Fuck Me!" loud enough is an embarrassment to the voting population.

+1 for laissez faire... OH!..and FREE THE WEED!!!

clonshire
I'm So Busy Productions

63 Posts
3/05
Posted - Jun 16 2005 : 9:50AM
I'm not a Mary Carey fan whatsoever. I agree with ClaudioVegas about not being attracted to Mary, but I DO LIKE when a porn company (Kick Ass) markets a performer above and beyond the norm. That's extremely cool.
baronorca
Member

Montana
528 Posts
1/01
Posted - Jun 16 2005 : 8:00PM
I think Mary Carey is a total "Kickass" babe as well as a pretty nice person (only met her once at the Expo). As to her political veiws, she's just as entitled to have and speak of them as any other celebrity. Why should we expect more (or less) from a porn star than a movie or music star?
JAGnLA All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

people pay me NOT to get naked
1944 Posts
2/04
Posted - Jun 17 2005 : 7:40AM
I'd have to disagree: I am definitely NOT a Mary Carey fan. I don't find her incredibly talented, attractive or any of those things. I also find her somewhat boorish and not all that intelligent. However , I have no problems with her publicizing herself the way she has. I think the industry could find a better spokesperson, but have no problem with her trying to assume the mantle.

Most importantly:
No, we don't HAVE to like and respect Mary...we don't HAVE to like or respect anyone...

and I'm not so sure the other women mentioned cared to have all that attention.

"corruptio optimi pessima "

Edited by - jagnla on 6/18/2005 12:57:15 AM

monkey power
Member

Tim?
868 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jun 17 2005 : 4:24PM
It's funny as hell every time she gets on the news and that's all that matters.

Who ever said the industry needs or wants or deserves a genius spokesperson? Carey is a better sample of the porn community than the professional, well-spoken Juli Ashton in a business suit, which always seemed weird to me. Porn is supposed to be fun / funny, and Mary reminds people of the harmlessness of the product.

You only make yourself part of Mary's joke on America by complaining in great detail about how she's not the ideal public relations rep.

mrdngm
Member

754 Posts
11/04
Posted - Jun 18 2005 : 10:36AM
I don't want to "bash" any performer and I'm sure she has fans somewhere but I have to admit that I'm not a MCarey fan. I was curious for years to see if Kickass would do a g-g vid but was surprised that they've built their few all-girl tapes around her--she's in every effin' scene. That means if you're not into her you can't just watch the scenes she's not in because she's in every scene . Considering that this is a performer of average looks, I think that's one of the most questionable marketing decisions I've seen a company make, not to mention an insult to Kickass fans who might not be into that particular performer.



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