Mason did a fantastic job on Gangbanged 5. Both scenes in it were amazing!
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Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 4:43AM
You need a more realistic target for your grassroots movement, friend. As much as I like Rachel Starr, she barely does anal. Focus on some more hardcore performers.
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Posted - Dec 15 2012 : 2:50PM
^oh I don't know. Seems to me that girls have a lot of faith and trust when Mason is directing, and with good reason. There have been more than a couple of girls that have done their first on-screen -fill in the blanks- scene because it was shot by Mason. Before Gangbanged 2 who would have thought that Jayden Jaymes would have done such a scene? or, who would have thought Lexi Belle was ever going to do an anal scene until Mason made it come true? Mason made Rachel's first and so far only on-screen anal a reality so why not a this. There is no harm in asking.
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Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 4:38AM
That's a fair point. Although, I get irritated at "fans" that constantly press for girls to do anal, dp, gangbangs, etc. There is almost nothing worse than girls that capitulate and do these scenes when they aren't genuinely comfortable doing them. They invariably end up being much worse than their usual boy/girl scenes. Rachel Starr has done so many incredible, non-anal, one on one scenes. I don't understand why that's not good enough for people that claim to be her fans. As much as I enjoyed Rachel's Elegant movie, I thought her anal scene was underwhelming compared to the rest of the scenes. The reason I say that is because she has done amazing "regular" scenes with Michael Stefano in the past. Her scene in CarWash Girls with Manuel Ferrara (directed by Mason) is pure gold, and one of my favorite scenes ever. I would cringe, however, at the news of her doing a DP, not to mention a gangbang.
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Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 6:48AM
Hi Mason Gangbanged 5 - another good gangbang movies from your hand. You make gangbang movies just the way I like them: DP, DPP, DAP & facials. And triple penetration is just the icing on the cake. I hope you will direct many more movies in the Gangbanged series.
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Posted - Dec 16 2012 : 1:32PM
^^ I agree with you JB_X; fans constantly demanding that girls do this or that can get quite boring and annoying, specially when a girl has clearly stated that she has no interest in doing anal, IR, gangbangs etc. As I've gotten older I've developed a much greater appreciation for less extreme material so I'm quite glad to see girls do more intimate one on one scenes. However; much as in real life, occasionally a little something extra is nice and so long as the girl is willing, why not. If Rachel was to come out and say she has no interest in doing a gangbang scene then I would consider the matter dropped, but until then as I said previously there is no harm in asking.
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Posted - Dec 19 2012 : 8:23PM
I like Mason as much as the next guy, but let's be real: the reason these scenes happen is because she is in a position to wave Patrick Collins' checkbook at the girls.
^ Do you really think that's all it is? I'm under no illusions regarding the money side of things in all cases, but I get the impression Mason creates a safe space and the performers trust and respect her.
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Posted - Dec 19 2012 : 10:29PM
I certainly believe that the money is what determines whether or not these "firsts" scenes are shot, and that the performer will give the scene to whoever meets her price first, or makes the highest offer - whether it's Elegant, or Jules Jordan, or whomever. I don't think porn performers make enough money that they can justify giving Mason or anyone a "hometown discount" for being supportive and having pink cotton candy clouds and unicorns on set or whatever. Elegant pretty clearly made a business decision several years back to drop the "squirting" movies and other stuff which could have made them a target for prosecution (like Stagliano), and remake the company as a producer of safer, more vanilla movies. They attempted to distinguish themselves from all the other companies making those kinds of movies by transitioning to glossier packaging, a more upscale and consistent visual look to the movies, and by being willing to pay to get the "firsts" scenes. It's a strategy which, at least by outward appearances, seems to have worked well for them.
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Posted - Dec 19 2012 : 11:09PM
I agree. No doubt that the big Elegant Angel cheque is the prime deciding factor. However; beyond the big payday, I believe that having Mason attached to the project as a director is also a pretty big motivator for the girls. Based on what I've heard girls say both in the BTS interviews as well as the Elegant Angel podcast, they really like how Mason makes them feel at ease and brings out their best performance.
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Posted - Dec 20 2012 : 2:10AM
I really like the "glam" style that Elegant has shifted to. I don't think any of the harder-edged sex has been sacrificed either, it's just been packaged in a more appealing way. William H and Mason seem to let the performers dictate the flow and direction of the scene, and I think that's how great porn is made.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 20 2012 : 2:16AM
I think the squirt series weren't dropped because of fear of prosecution, they just stopped selling. Note that no one is doing squirt videos much anymore.
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Posted - Dec 20 2012 : 3:04AM
One of the movies that Stagliano was prosecuted for was one of Joey Silvera's "Storm Squirters" volumes. I would be very, very surprised if Elegant and all the other companies that were big and established enough to have ongoing relationships with industry attorneys weren't advised immediately after the indictment was handed down to steer clear of producing any more of that kind of content -- leaving the genre to the Porno Dans of the world.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 20 2012 : 3:58AM
I remember that, but didn't Jaysin return to his usual M.O. soon after? And Adriano has been 'experimenting' with butter and other 'anal projectiles' in his latest videos. At this point it's hard to know if some of this stuff has declined because of fear of prosecution or if the shrinking financial fortunes of the porn industry make such niche material no longer financially attractive. When was the last time Jaysin released a video? But we've gone off topic as Mason never really did the squirt stuff anyway, that was more William H's thing, as I recall he had some funny things to say about those films in his podcast with Skronker. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/20/2012 3:59:53 AM
Mason is still the best in the industry, nice to see a recent post by her on here. I hope we get another Massive Facials in the spring, it's my favorite series by anyone right now.
I suspect that GGG is right-- the girls like the paycheck, and they like working with Mason. Given that you "like Mason as much as the next guy," what do you like about her if it isn't that she consistently gets great performances out of performers. These seem (to me at least) to be based on what GGG refers to as an environment of safety, trust, and respect?
I want to see a Mason directed/shot scene featuring Dani Daniels and Mia Malkova. In fact, I'd like to see a Mia Malkova video like "Dani" or "Celeste" featuring Mia with some of the other luminaries in girl-girl, including Dani, Celeste, Sinn Sage, or Veronica Avluv.
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Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 3:33AM
Can't wait, Sinn Sage and Maddy and lots of cute butt munching.
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Posted - Jan 12 2013 : 4:36AM
Girl Crush 3 had some very nice parings.
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Posted - Jan 20 2013 : 6:20AM
I know Elegant killed it at AVN this year, as usual, but how Mason didn't win the performer "showcase" award is beyond me (Remy? Dani? Lexi? Asa? Jada?). Nobody even comes close to her in this respect, not even within her own company. Asa won, but for a movie that was barely watchable. Disappointing.
^ Maybe that worked actually to her disadvantage? The voters who preferred Jules Jordan's style of filmmaking could unite their votes behind one title; maybe many voters put several titles of Mason onto the first places of their ranking, but none of them got the undivided support... when "Remy" and "Lexi" get twice No.1 and twice No.5 and Lexi gets the same, then they might have less points than e.g. Asa Akira To the Limit getting three times No.1. Just a thought. (NB: I have not seen the winner Asa Akira To the Limit, so I cannot and will not judge how good it is) Edited by - Quorrl on 1/20/2013 8:03:00 AM
I had the same question. Maybe Mason's consistently excellent showcase titles were competing with each other, which split the Mason vote, while Jules Jordan's titles weren't as consistently high quality, so the "Jules Jordan" vote all settled on Asa Akira.
Mason not winning the performer showcase award is truly baffling. She directed some really great flicks and should have won.
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Posted - Jan 21 2013 : 4:13AM
Three scenes from Insatiable 3 won AVN awards (G/G/B, DP, Group), yet the movie wasn't even nominated in best showcase. Not to mention the fact that Asa won Performer of the Year. No matter how they decide these awards (and I have no zero knowledge of the voting process), that's totally bogus. I'm not trying to put Jules Jordan down either. He's done a lot of very good "showcase" titles. "To The Limit" was not one of them, though.
^ That's odd, but it points to the idea that the "Mason vote was split." I'm guessing that the studios get to recommend a limited number of titles in each category before the formal nominations are made. If so, maybe Mason had so many top-quality showcases that EA didn't recommend a sequel to a sequel-- "Insatiable 3"-- which would have had an excellent chance of winning.
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Posted - Jan 25 2013 : 12:15AM
Mason does most of the Superstar September movies and other stuff like Battle of the Asses which would be perfect for you. My money's on you in that battle. I wish she would bring back the Slave Dolls series which I'd like to see you in. Would love to see you in some fetish/rough stuff. If you keep going the way you are now, you might end up in Superstar September! Edited by - jesse midnite on 1/25/2013 12:16:21 AM
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Posted - Jan 25 2013 : 12:43AM
Mason does Massive Facials. Grazer/Mick Blue does DP Fanatics and William H. does Big Wet Asses. The DP Fanatic & BWA probably won't be shooting those editions for a few months at the earliest, but maybe your interest will get them to put a scene in the can til they're ready to release them. Who is your agent and why doesn't he already have this important information for you already?
Girl Crush 3 is so good it's not even fair. I'm not the biggest fan of Jessie Andrews, but she blew the doors off her scene with Mia Malkova. Jessie got more out of her than in any scene (BG or GG) that I've seen her in so far. Also, the more I see of her, the more I'm convinced that Lia Lor is one of the absolute best performers in the business. My only minor complaint is the intros to the scenes. They felt kind of forced. I think it would have been way more effective to do those interviews after the scenes, because the sex in this movie speaks for itself.