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Imaginative
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Posted - Apr 10 2010 : 12:36PM
Lately, I've really been getting back into the work of Mason aka Sam No. I've been trying to decipher if there is a stylistic distinction between the use of the two names, and I can't really seem to nail down a rule. At first, I thought that any film where Mason's voice is a presence, is a Mason flick, but Car Wash Girls seems to refute that.
Also, there have been allusions to William H. being her figurative (or literal) "brother," but lately I've been wondering if it's at all possible that William H. is yet another alias for Mason. (Perhaps one that allowed her to continue working for Elegant after she "left" for a short time.)
Of course, this would make her crazy-prolific, if she were indeed directing under Sam No, Mason and William H, so my gut says, "no way." But then I look at something like the brilliant "Tales of Perversity 11," from 2004 (if you haven't seen it and like fetish movies, this one is a classic for the ridiculously scorching Roxanne Hall scene alone) and it seems much more like a Mason flick than a William H. film.
If not Mason herself, I think Graham is the best one to weigh in on the subject. Graham?
P.S. Here's hoping for Mason's Slave Dolls 4 in 2010! Been a bit too long since we had a new fetishy Elegant flick.
Edited by - imaginative on Apr 10 2010
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Posted - Apr 10 2010 : 1:12PM
You know how Jesus is the Son of God, yet kind of IS God? I think it's like that. Or how Norman Bates is Norman Bates but he's ALSO his mother? It's amazing what they can do with wigs and glue-on chin hair these days.
You only ever see "William H." at conventions, and if you see a pic of Mason, it's the same old photo. Who can really say. But I think they were a huge influence on the White Stripes.

Edited by - skronker on 4/10/2010 1:14:32 PM

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Funny topic.
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Posted - Apr 10 2010 : 8:19PM
Care to elaborate?
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We are all made from star dust. That kind of links us. Maybe The Holy Big Dude actually exists, and we are all in his likeness (even the ugly bastards). Maybe we are all incarnations and aspects of one universal consciousness...
That being said, I am almost certain there is more than one director in porn.
 
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No, not really.
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How unimaginative...
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^ Doesn't Alex Panzer's ghost need an enema or something?
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Where'd you get that username from?
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He's a ghost here.
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Posted - Apr 11 2010 : 11:52PM
Basically, all I'm asking is if there is a stylistic difference between the work Directed under the name "Mason," vs, that of the pseudonym, "Sam No." We know it's the same person, so what makes her choose one name over the other?
Edited by - imaginative on 4/11/2010 11:53:08 PM
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Posted - Apr 12 2010 : 12:26AM
Have you tried watching the videos and deciding for yourself?
Also, you are aware that many porn directors shoot work under more than one name?
Edited by - skronker on 4/12/2010 12:29:23 AM
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Posted - Apr 12 2010 : 12:42AM
Yes, as I said in my OP, I did try to compare are found no rhyme or reason.
Yes, I am aware of this. However, in all other cases I am aware of, this is done to allow the same director to shoot for multiple studios. Mason/Sam No is exclusive to Elegant Angel, which makes this case different, and I believe worthy of discussion.
 
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Posted - Apr 12 2010 : 8:09PM
It was initially conceived to differentiate the straight gonzo stuff that she shoots like Massive Asses and the more creative productions. Since then the lines have blurred a bit, but the same principle basically rings true. I wouldn't read that much into it.
Tails of Perversity 11 was William's own vision.
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Isn't she going to start shooting a Latina line under the name No Mas?
Edited by - skronker on 4/12/2010 11:23:57 PM
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...and an Asian line under Soma N.
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^^^You're right, funny topic!
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Posted - Apr 13 2010 : 11:59AM
First thing I notice is that Mason interviews in her movies. She also shoots the movies that are dedicated to one performer (Tori Black Pretty Filthy). William H. puts dialogue between performers in some of his stuff often with off-beat humor (Busty Waitresses). William H. must also have a thing for oil as it appears in quite a few of his scenes. Their shooting style is pretty similar and characteristic of Elegant releases which are typically well lit and the girls always look hot. Both are directors that seem to care a lot about their productions and are among the best in the biz.
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Posted - Apr 13 2010 : 4:35PM
Not only is Mason William H, she is also Graham and everybody else at Elegant Angel! It's a conspiracy!
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Posted - Apr 13 2010 : 4:51PM
I didn't really think they were one and the same (as we know Sam No/Mason are), but more noticing their stylistic similarities.
At first I too thought the interviews and off-screen presence of the Mason persona is what distinguished a Mason release from a Sam No release. However, Car Wash Girls among others seem to refute that. I also noticed that releases dedicated to a performer (i.e. Pretty Filhty, SlutWoman, etc.) seemed to be linked to Mason, but again the Brianna Love and Alexis Texas ButtWoman releases prove to be exceptions to THAT rule.
I accept Graham's answer that where there once might have been a distinction between Mason and Sam No, that it has since blurred and no longer really carries meaning as to why one title is released under "Mason," while another is released as "Sam No." He would know!!
Edited by - imaginative on 4/13/2010 4:54:53 PM
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They're all brilliant in my book!! Almost what I watch exclusively.



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